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I'll take the others, then. I'll be honest, Victreebel is a terrible Pokemon. Low Defenses, HP, combined with bad Speed isn't the best combination.
Victreebel @ Heat Rock / Life Orb Trait: Chlorophyll Nature: Modest Evs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Sunny Day - Solarbeam - Hidden Power [FIRE] - Sleep Powder / Sludge Bomb I know how much Sunnybeaming sucks, but it's the only thing Victreebel can do, so stfu. :< Pidgeot @ Choice Band Trait: Keen Eye Nature: Jolly Evs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Brave Bird - U-Turn - Pursuit - Return |
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Hey every one, i need a little help on my Scizor that im thinking of using. Here's what ive been thinking so far.
ScizorAdamant @Choice Band Technician EVs:4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed Brick Break Pursuit Iron Head Now heres where i have the main problem: I am really undecided on U-turn and X-scissor. I like X-scissor's higher attack, but if Scizzor gets in a pinch, U-turn is useful. Thanks for the help!! |
Can anyone suggest a good moveset for a special walling Probopass?
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I'd really only use Probopass in the Sandstorm.
Probopass @ Leftovers Trait: Magnet Pull Nature: Modest Evs: 252 HP / 172 Sp.Atk / 84 Sp.Def - Earth Power - Thunderbolt / Flash Cannon - Explosion / Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Taunt / Protect - Explosion / Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Taunt / Protect |
As it so happens, he will be in a sandstorm most of the time.
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Empoleon @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef Modest/Calm Nature Surf Ice Beam Grass Knot Stealth Rock/Roar This is good for a special wall Empoleon right? and can i get a moveset for a mixape? |
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Empoleon @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef Calm Nature -Surf -Ice Beam/Grass Knot -Rest -Sleep Talk your sets ok though their are better alternatives. sorry anyway i don`t think mixape works very well but hows this? Infernape @Life Orb EVs: 24 Atk / 252 SAtk / 232 Spd Naive Nature -Flamethrower -Close Combat -Nasty Plot -Grass Knot i think infernape is phisical sweeper only and this is much better... Infernape @Life Orb/Expert Belt EVs: 24 HP / 252 Atk / 232 Spd Jolly Nature -Close Combat -Flare Blitz -Stone Edge/Thunderpunch -Swords Dance someone rate these for me please as I want to know what other people think of them! |
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Can I ask if it is mere coincidence that both of your sets match smogon's exactly? except for the HP EVs you've matched them completely. Wouldnt be trying plageurise now would you? |
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can you give me the link to that somgon site please as I have heard of it but neva looked at it (i use seribbi net, simple to use) simply just to prove a poinjt if i was using smogons why did i suggest such dreadful movsets earlier on for say...blissey (have a check if you don`t belive me) so if i was just copying why would i suggested something so dreadful it was a hack and i didnt even know! |
Both sets are standard so its hard not to copy-paste unless you're recommending gimmicks or crap movesets >.>
Anyway don't recommend unless you know exactly what you are recommending. The set you recommended was standard Mixape, which works extremely well as a wall-breaker but generally pales in comparison with other sweepers. Mixape actually can do serious damage to its main counters - Starmie and Vaporeon - Cresselia and Tentacruel stop it though. Without HP Ice Dragon/Flying types stop it. SDLuke/SDKabutops >> SDInfernape, both have priority moves and Infernape can't come in on anything. Oh, and you should try to find that "somgon site" by yourself, it isn't really hard to find and is a great resource for movesets. |
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By the way for a good laugh rate my cousins luvdisk ha ha! Adamant nature no idea what it,s EV`s are sorry! Life orb -Flail -Surf -Sweet kiss -Brine She actually bothered to raise it to lv 100 :shocked: (It is apparently her best so scince when was luvdisk better than mewtwo?) Downed it one hit from Venomoth hahahahaha! |
You should read smogon's page on luvdisk, it's hilarious
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/luvdisc I laugh out loud every time i read it :) |
Sorry, but that is a very bad moveset. Luvdisc does not have the offenses to carry out a Life Orb sweep.
Luvdisc @ Focus Sash/Leftovers/Damp Rock Timid, 252 Speed, 252 SpA, 4 HP Swift Swim Rain Dance Toxic/Sweet Kiss Charm/Substitute/Attract/Safeguard Protect Should be the only set it should run. Luvdisc gets Swift Swim, abusing Rain on a Toxistalling set. The only use for it should be to setup Rain Dance, the rest of the moves are just for annoyance. I would use Sweet Kiss > Toxic since it can disable the pokemon in question 50% of the time buying you useful time to Substitute or something. Attract because I couldn't think of anything. Sadeguard for ppassing or something. Obviously no Sash with Substitute. Luvdisc suffers from moveslot syndrome, essentially it has a broad range of annoying options that would work well in tandem, but you would have to dedicate one slot to Rain Dance and one to Protect leaving you with only two slots for status moves - Toxic/Sweet Kiss/Attract. Personally Sweet Kiss + Attract should be the way to go, if you're feeling suicidal you could run an extra status move over Protect. Notice Qwilfish clearly outclasses it as a pure Rain Dance setupper - Qwilfish gets Taunt, Thunder Wave and Explosion to cripple switchins. Luvdisc is stuck with the inferior Attract and Sweet Kiss. |
Oh my god that is histerical! true bet funny I gotta e-mail her that link!
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I mean, the second it subs, it gets broken. It can't survive to Rain Dance, and with Sash, it won't survive the next hit. Even in NU, it sucks. Attract is an atrocious move, as is Sweet Kiss. It's only role is an annoyer, and fails hard at that. Goes right under Ditto as a few of the worst pokes. Ever. But, that's all it can do. A shame. And with Underground, it isn't even as useful for finding Heart Scales anymore, it being harder to find in D/P. Most importantly, she wasn't offering a set, he was making fun of her friend's set. Spammish, but very funny. |
Excuse me sims but I am NOT a she!
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Luvdisc- The comedy pokemon ;)
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Oh, sorry, I just saw your Avatar. My bad. HE.
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I was just recommending my opinion on what a viable Luvdisc moveset is, Smogon's analysis is not really serious considering they actually put attacks on luvdisc =O
Anyways as I said the most Luvdisc can do to get by is annoy and setup Rain Dance and Safeguard, abusing Swift Swim and confusion. Focus Sash was there because Luvdisc did not have the defenses to take a hit and would allow an almost guaranteed Rain Dance. I strongly believe Luvdisc has the movepool to annoy if the said player is lucky. In that case Attract + Confusion is only a 25% chance of the pokemon moving, 50% chance that the Confusion will work first turn. In any case I outlined the superiority of Qwilfish to Luvdisc as it gets Twave when Attract and sweet kiss can be automatically nulled by switching out. Taunt stops a lot of setuppers and statusers. |
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I mean, it might work against me, I get haxed in standard battles (wifi or not) far too many times. Ask DA. However, that being her only options? I always say annoyers suck, but Luvdisc takes it to a new low. Of course, tha's even hoping that Sweet Kiss, with 75% accuraccy, hits in the first place. I don't know what Luvdisc did to Game Freak, but she deserves better than that. Same with Farfeche'd. Oh, & Flareon. He needs it most. |
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Alright, that was fun, but I have a serious question. What's the standard set for Espeon? Leafeon?
I can't find the thread. EDIT: I MEANT ESPEON! Sorry. |
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Which would be better in my team?
Azumarill @ Choice Band Adamant Huge Power -Aqua Tail -Iron Tail -Rollout -Waterfall OR Empoleon @ Expert Belt/Choice Specs Hasty Torrent -Surf -Blizzard -Ice Beam -Water Pulse Thankies~ |
They're both terrible movesets, but I can't even fix it. I need to know the rest of the members of your team first.
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Here goes...
Infernape @ Charcoal Careful Blaze -Flare Blitz -Flamethrower -Close Combat -Grass Knot Dragonite @ Persim Berry Naughty Inner Focus -Dragon Dance -Outrage -Fire Punch -??? (considering Waterfall or Earthquake) Garchomp @ Life Orb/Shell Bell Gentle Sand Veil -Dragon Claw -Dragon Rush (replace w/ Fire Fang?) -Earthquake -Swords Dance Raichu @ Magnet Naive Static -Thunderbolt -Nasty Plot -Volt Tackle -Brick Break Note: I have reservations about going pure-physical for my Raichu since he can't learn Swords Dance/Bulk Up. >< Lucario @ Wide Lens Quiet Steadfast -Aura Sphere -Psychic -Flash Cannon -Foresight (anti-Wondertomb) Weavile @ Scope Lens Modest Pressure -Dig/Aerial Ace -Avalanche -Night Slash -Swords Dance 6th slot will be either Azumarill or Empoleon... Weavile's just a placeholder... |
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Well, now, not ALL the movesets are messed up. All the NATURES are fubar, but the movesets on Dragonite and Garchomp look about right (with Earthquake and Fire Fang, respectively).
By the way, wide lense increases your accuracy. So why have it on something with 100% accurate moves? |
Err, I was thinking of that thing that ups Sp. Atk...
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I'm not trying to make you feel bad, Konvict, nor am I trying to sound like a jerk, but I won't sugarcoat it, this team needs major work. I can't work in Azumarill or Empoleon until the problems in this team is fixed. I STRONGLY advise you to create your own thread, and you'll get much more help. EDIT: Well, I was hoping for a Magnezone set, please. I was planning on using it as my main sweeper, but Smogon sucks all sorts of arse. |
Magnezone's analysis has two good sets. EVs might need some work.
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[email protected] 172 HP / 252 Sp.A / 84 Speed Modest Nature - Thunderbolt - Hidden power {Ice] - Substitute - magnet Rise Screws up steels good and proper >=]. 84 speed evs puts you above min speed Skarmory. [email protected] Orb 88 HP / 88 Atk / 248 SpA / 84 Spe Modest Nature - Thunderbolt - Hidden power {Ice] - Explosion / Metal Sound - magnet Rise / Flash Cannon Yeah.... Or you can use Scarf if you want to be more "sweepy" [email protected] Scarf Timid/Hasty Nature 6 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED - Hidden power Ice - Thunderbolt - Flash Cannon - Explosion / Tri Attack Since its slow, 240 Speed which Timid [email protected], would put you above max sped Azelf, Raikou and Starmie IIRC. |
Ok, so I've decided to start coppletely over. This is gonna be my first ev-trained team so I want it to be really good so I want to make sure I have the right pokemon first. Tis is the team I was thinking of -
Empoleon Infernape/Lucario Snorlax/Blissey Dusknoir Garchomp Roserade Is this ok so far? |
Not that bad for a first attempt, I suppose. Of course, we can't give a proper rate without movesets and EVs, so make a new thread with your team.
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Ok. Will do, but first i should go with Lucario over Infernape and Snorlax over Blissey right?
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I dunno. Post the sets in your own thread, and someone will answer there.
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does anionne now a good teame i start agian with pokemon diamond and my brother give me the pokemon i want (6) and s i want to have a good team
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In-game anything is good. The game is aimed at ages 3+ and has AI to match. Just pick the pokes you like as and when you see them and level up :)
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I need a good special wall for a Sandstorm team. Preferably something that can stop water types.
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I have taking the time make a female eevee time and evolved them into there respective evolved forms I would like suggestions on ev and move set for each form
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[email protected] 252 HP / 92 SP.DEF / 164 DEF Sassy Nature - Recover - Stealth Rock / Toxic / Earthquake - Rock Slide - Energy Ball Can take a Specs Mences Draco meteor and Recover off all the damage. Tentacruel is a cool anti water type, and a good support pokemon (Rapid Spin or Knock off, Toxic spikes etc) in general on any Sandstorm team, due to the ability to counter Mixape etc. So you could consider that or Starmie, who gets Thunderbolt and can be a great addition to your SS team, also being able to counter Mixape AND gyarados, Rapid Spin is handy to and so is recover. Both support cradily well. |
What would be a good moveset if I went with Tentacruel?
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I have a question on my Scizor. I want to use him in Wi-Fi competitive battling. i have decided on three of my moves but im kinda hung up on the fourth. I have narrowed it down to X-Scissor and U-turn. The other moves are Iron Head, Brick Break, and Puruit. Anyone have an opinion? Thanks in advance!
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I'm not sure how well Scizor will pull off a moveset like that unless it's Choiced. Probably want to give it Agility or Swords Dance.
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I use [email protected] Band / Choice Scarf 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Adamant Nature Trait : Technician - Pursuit - Brick Break - U-Turn - Iron head I prefer U-Turn or its easy for Magnezone to come in and trap you otherwise if your stuck in X-Scissor. |
I have a Scizor question. Is he still a great passer?
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Im looking for sets for Swampert, Celebi, Jirachi, Vaporeon, and Togekiss. Any help is greatly appreciated ^^
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240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT Relaxed nature - Hydro pump / Surf - ice Beam - Earthquake - Stealth Rock / Roar Mixpert, 2hko's Forry, Skarm and Weezing with hydro pump. [email protected] 252 HP / 220 DEF / 36 SPEED Bold Nature - Grass Knot - Heal bell - Leech Seed - Recover Cleric. Also beats up gyarados HARD with Grass Knot, 3hko IIRC. OR [email protected] 252 HP / 80 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED Timid Nature - Recover - leech Seed - Substitute - psychic Anti-Sims set =p *Gets shot* Sub seed celebi, 308 speed which puts you ahead of all base 100's. Evil set is evil. [email protected] 252 HP / 220 DEF / 36 SPEED Impish Nature - Wish - U-Turn - Zen Headbutt - Reflect / Light Screen / Body Slam / Ice Punch / Thunder Wish passer. Thunder beats skarm, U-Turn to pass a wish safely and to get away from dugtrio and Magnezone. 0R [email protected] 252 HP / 80 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED Timid Nature - Calm Mind - Substitute / Wish - Thunderbolt / Hidden power Fighting - Psychic Calm mind. 101 HP Subs. HP Fight is for t-tar etc. [email protected] 188 HP / 252 DEF / 70 SP.ATT Bold Nature - ice Beam - Surf - Protect / Hidden power Electric / Roar / Yawn / Toxic - Wish Wish pass, Gyara, Ape etc counter. OR [email protected] 188 HP / 252 DEF / 70 SP.ATT Relaxed Nature - Baton Pass - Surf - Substitute - Wish Sub Pass, make it slower than blissey, so you can pass intact subs on its s-tosses =) [email protected] 252 HP / 152 Sp.A / 104 Speed Modest Nature - Nasty Plot - Aura Sphere - Roost - Air Slash I hate this thing, its evil T_T. Nasty Plot sweeper. OR [email protected] 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Sp.Def Calm nature - Thunderwave / Body Slam - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Roost Flinch Hax, another Kiss set that is evil, i hate and that doesnt deserve to exist =/ I could also post Baton passing sets for Celebi if you want them aswell ? |
Ah thanks a million D_A ^.^
No need to post Baton Passing sets, these sets should last me quite a while. :D |
Which of these would be the best Drapion to use?
Drapion @ Scope Lens Jolly Nature/Sniper - Swords Dance - Night Slash - Brick Break - Fire Fang Drapion @ Scope Lens Jolly Nature/Sniper - Swords Dance - Night Slash - Earthquake - Cross Poison Also, what would be the best EV Spread? |
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40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed, buts you above base neutral 100's IIRC. |
Oh noes, more team help needed from KT D:
I have quite an interesting problem. Deoxys-e isn't really the lead I wished it to be. I'm considering dropping DDTar and switching it for CBTar. I want to use CBTar as a lead, and I also want to use Starmie. I need a set for a CBTar lead, and a set for Starmie. (Preferably Tbolt > Ice Beam) |
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[email protected] Band 60 hp / 252 att / 196 speed Adamant Nature - Crunch - Pursuit - Stone Edge - Earthquake The spread i use, it puts you above suicune and other pokemon that like to hover around the 200 mark . It gives 207 speed on the above spread. Alternately, you can just max hp and attack, but i would advise against that, due to the fact that skarmory will then be faster and can stall you out of Stone Edges with Roost =/. Who you would otherwise 2hko with Stone Edge on the first spread. [email protected] 160 hp / 132 sp.att / 216 speed Timid Nature Trait : natural Cure - Thunderbolt - Rapid Spin - Recover - Surf Spinner. 216 speed and timid gives you 352 speed, to put you above Gengar and Infernape =) |
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178 HP/252 Attack/80 Speed Adamant Stone Edge Earthquake/Focus Punch Pursuit Crunch Hammer things hard with CB.Speed is now 178 so you can outspeed Skarmory and Metagross with 4 Speed evs and 2HKO Skarmory with Stone Edge and do massive damage to Metagross with Earthquake.Focus Punch if you want to hammer Skarmory after it Roosts, because then it will be Steel type when you Focus Punch or just whack Blissey or things switching in expecting Stone Edge or Crunch like Registeel. =D Pursuit catches switching pokemon and OHKO some of them like Alakazam or Gengar. [email protected] Natural Cure Timid 160 HP/132 Special Attack/216 Speed Ice Beam/Thunderbolt Surf Recover Rapid Spin Standard Rapid Spinning Starmie. =D EDIT: This may be off-topic but, I'm having trouble with PC's server and I can't connect to the server. Any help to assist me in connecting to PC's server or comments on why I can't connect? |
Thanks D_A and lala! I'm using them and they're great.
Off Topic: Same thing is happening to me with the PC Server. |
hey, i dunno, if this is the right thread, but i'd like you to rate and revise my team...
Empoleon 252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 SP.ATT Calm nature - Surf - Ice beam - Stealth Rock - Roar Electivire Mild Nature 80 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED - Cross Chop - Thunderbolt - Flamethrower - Ice Punch Garchomp 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Jolly Nature - Swords Dance - Dragon Claw - Earthquake - Fire Fang Espeon 252 SAtk/252 Spd/ 6 HP - Psychic - Baton Pass - Calm Mind - Shadow Ball Gliscor 252 Def/176 Atk/176 HP -Swords Dance -Fire Fang -Earthquake -Arial Ace Dusknoir 252 SDef/252 HP/6 Atk -Earthquake -Payback -Brick Break/Captivate -Calm Mind Well... hows that? |
Don't you already have your own thread? Post it there.
Also, that Noir set makes me cry. Dusknoir @ Leftovers Careful 252 HP/ 178 SDef/ 80 Def -Fire Punch/ Thunderpunch -Shadow Sneak/ Shadow Punch -Will-o-Wisp -Pain Split |
okay, thanx. I'll rework it.
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Ummm... Can someone give me a set for a Bold Bronzong? What I was thinking:
-Iron Defense/Calm Mind -Psychic -Flash Cannon/Gyro Ball -Confuse Ray Thanks |
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Bold kind of sucks on Bronzong. Use this instead.
[email protected]/Macho Brace Relaxed nature Levitate Gyro Ball Hypnosis Stealth Rock/Trick Room/Reflect Explosion/Earthquake |
Any ideas on a moveset for Azelf and Uxie?
I've heard Uxie makes quite the Wall and Azelf is good Sp. Sweeper (adding U-turn just makes it all the better) Ideas appreciated ty |
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[email protected] Orb 42 ATT / 252 SP.AT / 216 SPEED Naive Nature - U-Turn / Grass Knot - Explosion - Psychic - Flamethrower Life Orb Azelf... OR [email protected] Orb 36 HP / 252 SP.AT / 220 SPEED Timid Nature - Psychic - Hidden power Fighting / Grass Knot - Flamethrower - Nasty Plot Nasty Plot sweeper !! Use 220 speed evs with hp fighting, otherwise use 216, as you can only get max of 30 ivs in speed for hp fighting. Anyways aim for 352 speed to put you above Gengar. Hp allows you to survive a specs starmie surf and a weaviles Pursuit should you stay in =) [email protected] 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 sp.att Relaxed Nature - Thunderbolt - Stealth Rock - Yawn - U-Turn / Reflect / Light Screen Is what i use for support and to annoy the hell out of Gyarados. OR [email protected] 252 HP / 144 def/ 56 Sp.A / 56 sp.def Bold Nature - Charge Beam / Thunderbolt - Psychic / Grass Knot / Hidden power Ice - Rest - Sleep Talk Rest-Talk.... I like elfs !!! |
Moveset help.
I am currently in need of a moveset for a level 100 Gliscor. I want to be able to use it well in WiFi battles, anyone have any suggestions for a moveset.
Also, if this is in the wrong place, can a MOD please move it? |
I'm working on breeding blah blah blah
What would be a good set up for a Lucario and Metagross Thx |
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Nature: Relaxed EVs: 252 hp,162 atk, 96 def -Toxic spikes -Spikes/earthquake -Rapid Spin -Explosion Donphan (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Rapid Spin - Rest - Rock Slide [email protected] Nature: Calm 252 hp, 200 sp.def, 58 sp.atk -Surf -Rapid Spin -Toxic spikes -Giga drain Magneton @ Leftovers Trait: Magnet Pull EVs: 156 HP / 100 Spd / 252 SAtk Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Hidden Power [Fire] - Thunderbolt - Metal Sound - Substitute / Reflect thats my 1st team for none-game, so don't give me "noob!" calls please :P i would like to stay with those 4 pokemons, switch thier moves, nature and EV's is okey.. and give me another 2 pokemons [i perfer none-legendey] that will take care of my team's weakness's. thanks all :rambo: |
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252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Modest Nature - Aura Sphere - Vacuum Wave - Hidden power Ice / Dragon Pulse - Shadow Ball / Dark pulse HP Ice hits Gliscor harder and Dragon Pulse gives you more neutral coverage. OR [email protected] Orb 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Adamant Nature - Swords Dance - Extremespeed / Bullet Punch - Close Combat - Crunch / Stone Edge / Bullet Punch Yep, after a swords dance, this is scary, Extremespeed picks off weak sweepers like Weavile and Infernape, Bullet Punch ohko's Gengar, Mismagius with SR up and Aerodactyl regardless of SR. [email protected] Band 252 HP / 244 ATT / 12 DEF / 8 SPEED Adamant Nature - Meteor Mash - Earthquake - Explosion - Thunderpunch / Ice Punch / Pursuit / Bullet Punch EVS Let you survive a Dugtrios CB EQ. OR [email protected] Orb 152 HP / 252 ATT / 104 SPEED Adamant Nature - Meteor Mash - Earthquake - Agility - Thunderpunch / Ice Punch / Explosion Agiligross... |
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Trait: Steadfast Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Swords Dance - Crunch - Close Combat - Extremespeed Metagross @ Leftovers Trait: Clear Body Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 Attack / 152 HP / 104 Speed - Meteor Mash - Thunderpunch - Earthquake - Agility |
I really doubt Agiligross can sweep (or do any damage for that matter) without an SD pass or any prior attack boost, and without a boost from Life Orb, it's just sad and gets walled by a lot of things =(
Anyway I would go with CBGross because of pure power, and its neutralities and resistances/immunities make switching in easy. RestTalkGross is also an option but is slightly inferior, although it does beat some of Metagross' counters one-on-one. People need to use MixGross more, I used it in my Dragonite team once (thanks Blue ga Kirby) and it was funny D= Metagross @ Life Orb Brave 31/30/31/30/30/31 (Hidden Power Fire 70) 252 Attack/92 Speed/164 SpA Meteor Mash Earthquake Hidden Power Fire Grass Knot Speed is for 177 Speed pokemon namely Skarm. Destroys Skarmory/Hippowdon/Swampert/Forretress on the switchin, Metagross' main counters. Gliscor won't switchin anyway because CB Meteor Mash is a 2HKO. If you have no need of Stealth Rock/Knock Off (another Stealth Rock setupper/Knock Off is crappy), Taunt could go into the last slot for P-PHazing (%_%) Swords Dance in the last slot may allow Gliscor a chance to sweep, basically you would run a more offensively oriented EV spread: 116 HP/136 Attack/42 Def/216 Speed Jolly (+nature base 90s, OHKO on Lucario), 116 HP/136 Attack/142 Def/116 Speed Jolly (neutral base 90s, OHKO on Lucario) |
CBGross is what i'm setting up now with that exact move set Dark_azelf lol.
I'll try a few different things and I am thinking a Specs Lucario would be pretty cool. Gonna try it out though, I will more then likely be changing my mind :S Any who thanks every one |
What are the EVs for a Bold Weezing @ Sludge Bomb/ Flamethrower/ WoW/ Pain Split?
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Credit goes to Dark Azelf.
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That one works so well, It's a wonder why the first was suggested :P
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Ok here is what I'm planning for my TRU Darkrai,I accidently saved with the wrong nature so it's set:
[email protected] Scarf Rash 252/252/4 Special attack/speed/HP Spacial Rend Focus Blast Shadow Ball Dark Void/Dark Pulse I don't know what I want as last move, I want him to be the hit and run type and both moves could work for him, with void he can come in and sleep a threat and he can actually KO something with a stabbed pulse. I wanted something other than a standard set and this is what I got |
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Darkrai @ Choice Scarf Rash (You could do worse...) 252 SAtk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP - Dark Pulse - Thunder - Ice Beam/ Spacial Rend - Focus Blast This should work well. Dark Pulse for STAB, and hitting SE on Lugia, Giratina, and the Latis. Thunder (with Kyogre support from either you or your opponent) hits Kyogre hard, as well as Lugia and Ho-Oh. Ice Beam hits Groudon and Rayquaza, although you could switch it with S-Rend to hit Palkia. Focus Blast hits Dialga and Heatran. Keep in mind that I have absolutely no experience in the Uber metagame, so I have no idea how well this would work. |
I would prefer Focus Punch >> Focus Blast or Bliss goes OLOL. You can make use of it to with rash.
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I'm trying to keep physical attack options open so as to take advantage of Rash's advantages so Punch could work out. I haven't added or removed any of Darkrai's moves as of yet, I don't have experiance in the uber metagame myself
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Ok so I've scrapped shadow ball for dark pulse and I'm debating on Focus punch or blast, for now i'm gonna run focus blast cause it's already got 252 special attack EVs and I'll see how that works for me, I'll keep punch in mind after a few trial runs
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No, Rock Slide is better and has more PP, something Cradily needs.
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Thanks King T-Tar. Wasn't sure which would be better.
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Whats a good moveset for glaceon?
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Umbreon?
sooo, wat do you guys think about umbreon? I find him useful but should i replace him with donphan as a wall/utility pokemon?
here's my umbreon Bold, Leftovers, 252 def. 252 hp. 6 SpDef -wish -mean look -baton pass -toxic |
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word, mines more of a toxic staller
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This should go in the Strategy and Moveset forum
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Hi can anyone give me a set for a seviper please? ta!
(by the way I downed my cousins luvdisk [again] with a butterfree tackle lol) |
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Anywayz, seviper is hardly a common poke so I've gone straight to smogon. They recommend either choice band or hoice specs: [email protected] Band/Life Orb Adamant 252Att/120Def/136Spd Crunch Earthquake Poisin Jab X Sissor/Return/Glare For the final slot smogon did not offer alternatives to glare if CB was used, so looking through it's movepool X scissor or return is yyour best bet. [email protected] Specs Modest 252SpAtt/120Def/136Spd Dark Pulse/Giga Drain Sludge Bomb Flamethrower HP Ground |
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Glaceon @ Leftovers Modest Nature EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Speed ~ Ice Beam / Blizzard ~ Hidden Power Fighting ~ Fake Tears ~ Wish OR Glaceon @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf Modest Nature EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Speed ~ Ice Beam / Blizzard ~ Hidden Power Fighting ~ Shadow Ball ~ Sleep Talk |
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I think seviper is a great phisical and special sweeper but it speed sucks big time. |
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