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Light Ball doubles both Attack and SpA ._. And Pikachu's attack stat is 5 points higher than its SpA ._.
Regardless I would recommend the Mixed Sweeper set. Always use +Speed because Pikachu needs all the speed it can get. Sub/Encore is pretty meh, the stuff that would try to status you would be either faster or would switch out, Dusknoir is also a special case considering it gets Shadow Sneak. |
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Well, i was looking at Crawdaunts stats and it looks as though it has the good offensive capabilities to be a sort of mix sweeper so to speak..
[email protected] Orb 252 ATT / 70 SP.ATT / 188 SPEED Naughty Nature Trait : Hyper Cutter - Ice Beam - Crunch - Surf - Super Power This spread 2hko's(53% minimum) max hp / min sp.def neutral Skarmory with surf, OHKO'S Garchomp with Ice Beam, Does 89.92% - 105.74% to max hp / max def bold blissey with super power and 2hko's all max hp and max def Celebi, Cresselia and Dusknoir with Crunch =D (By 2hko, i mean doesnt just scrape 2hko's, i mean really REALLY dents them). It even does 50.33% - 59.21% to Max hp / 100 def neutral spiritomb with Crunch. Main issue is its ass speed, 193 isnt enough =[, but with an Agility passed to it,from say Zapdos or something, i think it will be capable of hurting ALOT of things. I was contemplating HP Grass and Electric for bulky waters namely Gyarados, and swampert, but i figured it to be pointless tbh. I also know its walled hard by swampert, Bronzong, Suicune etc, but meh... Opinions, thoughts, suggestions ? |
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I've used a similar Crawdaunt on UU with Hidden Power [Grass] instead of Superpower and it worked very very well.
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Forretress is kinda in the same boat, only its recovery is horrible and it can't hurt Crawdaunt. And for the record, I agree that Hidden Power would be a rather futile attempt at "beating" bulky waters (especially those with HP electric for Gyarados). EDIT: Oh, I like the set BTW. lol |
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If you don't plan on passing speed to it, I think 177 Speed is enough.
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They're used in uber battles, but in conjuction with ubers.
Also, why would you want a Standard team with Pokémon usable in ubers if you're not going to battle ubers? |
Doesn't mean that an entire team of those guys can take on Ubers easily. It's like using UUs against an OU team- it's not impossible, but you need to be REALLY good to do it. And forgive me for being frank, but you're not giving off that 'expert battler' vibe. =/
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I decided on these pokemon so far: Metagross Blissey Garchomp hmm...pehaps I should have a supportive psyically defensive pokemon, like Scizor or Forretress that can hurt the foe when needed....& desite the years I sent playing the game, I'm practially new, since i don't have anyone else in the family that liked playing the game like I do...& i'm like a prisoner in my own home...(well, prisoner is a REALLY strong word for it, but I don't what else to descibe it as...) Altough they're not used in ubers(not that it matters any, as this is a standrad field team), I was strongly considering Azelf or Gengar as my special sweeper... or I may have Porygon-Z, or even Yanmega... |
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Just because it is good in ubers doesn't make it good in OU. You must completely revamp your team for uber, leaving you unable to handle OU. Shedinja is a great example. |
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Anyway, I'll be using gengar as my special sweeper...still wondering what my last 2 pokemon will...I guess I'll focus on the 4 & then analze their weaknesses & cover them with the last 2... |
That's not the point he was making. The Uber Tier has a completely different metagame.
You need different EV's, movesets and etc. Just becasue something is good in OU doesn't meen it's good in UBers. Also, just because somehing is bad in OU doesn't meen it's bad in UBers. A good example is shedninja. |
I quite like shedinja but its hp makes you want to scream as it is easily downed by weather and status effects but anyway does anyone have a moveset for it please? by the way shedinja is UU right?
P.s: Sims I dont want to be seen as rude but you say balanced pokemon fail against specialists? My win record would suggest otherwise. |
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As the others have said, the OUs that work out in Ubers require very different standard sets. Those standard sets don't tend to work out the best in OU. By definition of packing an interchangeable team you're going to need two different variants of the same Pokemon for general success. Which raises the question of why you're not using a seperate team altogether? |
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Shedinja is BL. Buts its usable in ubers, as there are less things that kill you there, the only real Spiker in Uber are the not so common Skarmory, Forry and Deoxys Defense. Weather changers you have to fear is basically t-tar. its actually fun to switch into Kyogre and go OLOL, but be careful, some of them pack toxic just to hit sheddy. [email protected] Sash / Lum Berry Adamant Nature 252 ATT / 4 DEF / 252 SPEED - X-Scissor - Shadow Sneak - WIll-o-wisp / Toxic - Swords Dance Def evs are for if your passing it subs, and let face it, those last 4 evs havent got anywhere better to go lol. OR [email protected] Band 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 4 DEF Adamant Nature - X-Scissor - Shadow Claw - Shadow Sneak - Aerial Ace Obligatory CB Set. Spoiler:
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Just let those pokes stick to their stregnths. Don't force them to be all pound when they can't afford to be. And as Dark said, win records doesn't prove anything. I have a record 0f 35 wins, 32 losses-all from Dark Azelf. Does that mean I'm a bad player? Looks to me like it means I should battle other people :\ |
This is another episode of "Dark_Azelf tries to be creative" haha
Anyways, i noticed Lickilicky has solid base stats and thought it could be pretty tanky due to the base 110 hp / 95 def / 95 sp.def. But it does not have reliable recovery ......or does it ? Well, i noticed it gets a very special move, and is awesome, that being Wish through an event =D. So i though a decent support set would be in order to be an anti metagame poke of sorts =p [email protected] 212 HP / 220 DEF / 78 Sp.Def Relaxed Nature - Thunderpunch / Thunderbolt - Icy Wind / Knock off - Wish - Body Slam Knock Off/Icy Wind and Body Slam could screw alot of things up imo, Looks to be cool counter to Gyarados aswell hence T-Punch/Bolt. I could put some evs in att /sp.att, but meh =p Opinions etc ?? |
Wow, I never realised the fatty could do anything past rival snorlax at pie eating ;)
But yeah, that set seams quite solid (No pun intended). Wish support is always handy, as is knock-off. I wouldnt use iy wind, since it is cured by a simple switch-out, but since it's not an immediate problem it's hardly forcing a switch like status can. Since you have T-punch/Bolt for paralysis, consider explosion over body slam for a more volatile STAB move ;) |
I really really like Lickilicky, but you do know that Event-exclusive moves are getting banned, right?
Wait until we have Custap Berry available. Then I'm sure Lickilicky usage will go up. |
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I think its kinda stupid being an event blanket ban tbh, MANY people work hard to get these events and then get told they cant use them ? Yeah, im sure people will listen to that...not, only cause for concern is Tickle wobby really, who wouldnt be a problem if some smart person wouldnt of woke up one morning and say "Imma put Wobby in OU" >_>. Anyway, until then im gonna abuse event moves lol Custap berry seems cool, especially on sub-ability pokemon =p |
I believe their ban has been decided already, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, I imagine Custaplicky to run like Lickilicky @ Custap Berry Adamant/Brave 252 HP 252 Atk - Counter - Swords Dance - Explosion - Gyro Ball/Endure Counter a hit, get low-health'd, activate Custap, Explode. If you predict a switch, SD. Gyro Ball is for Gengar, Endure for convenience. |
I love Lickilicky. Its support movepool is pretty awesome and it takes hits better than you'd think. You can bulky it up to Celebi's level if you want, which shows it's not too bad. That and everything but ghosts fear that SD Explosion.
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Thank you for the shedinja movesets.
What is custap berry? I have never heard of it :/ |
I need help with one more thing - Golduck's ability Cloud Nine could be useful on SS and Hail teams, switching off their Special Def (TTar and Hippo won't enjoy taking Focus Blast and Surf without SS cover :D), but there is a problem - how to use him in effective way in OU ? His stats aren't the greatest, but aren't that bad also. Maybe just to use some standard set with Choice Specs or Scarf and pass him Agility, Rock Polish or Nasty Plot/Calm Mind to give him more power ? By standard set I mean:
- Calm Mind/Hypnosis (or Substititute) - Focus Blast (good combination with Cloud Nine) - Surf/Hydro Pump (for STAB) - Ice Beam Yep, the only difference from standard UU set is Focus Blast used in place of Hidden Power. In other words I thought of maximizing Speed and Special Attack to try to use him as a spiker or with help of Calm Mind to raise his Special Def (but still 80 hp don't help you to use this variant and that's the reason I would prefer to use him as a Weather Switching Spiker). But if you have any idea for using Golduck in other way or just make proposition for EVs (because to tell the truth it's not my strong point) then it would be nice. This variant of Golduck is easily walled by Blissey/Snorlax or Bulky Waters, but I think it's not that bad on other Pokes. Or maybe just to try to use one of Hidden Powers ? Cheers and thx for any help. |
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[email protected] Orb 104 Attack / 252 Sp.A / 152 Speed Mild Nature - Cross Chop - Hydro Pump / Surf - Ice Beam - Hidden power Electric / Hypnosis 244 speed to outspeed Jolly T-Tar. Its kinda a cool set, especially for people who seem to think Blissey and Snorlax are counters lolz.Hidden power hits Gyarados and bulky waters mainly, but Hypnosis is there if you cant get it. |
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Doesnt golduck work better as special sweeper like this?
Leftovers 30 HP / 252 SAtk / 228 Spd Modest Nature With Ability Cloud Nine (Obviosly lol) -Surf -Ice Beam -Calm Mind -Hypnosis What about that? |
Then your walled utterly by Blissey. Calm Mind won't stop Seismec Toss.
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Not to mention Golduck isn't very fast, and with your EV spread it can't take physical hits.
Just use Dark_Azelf's set, which I have used and can say it's definately ♥. @whoever asked; Custap is a berry that lets you attack first the next turn after your HP has been lowered down to at least 1/3. |
Could I get sets for Regice, Registeel, and Regirock, please? ^.^
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If you're going to request for simple, standard sets, you should just check Smogon.
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I'm workin on both teams....for my uber one, would it better to have Spacial rend on my Darkrai instead of Thunder? (i'm running the mixed sweeper set from smogon but it don't mention Darkrai's event moves, Spacial rend & Roar of time.) I'm also wondering if Scope lens would be a acceptable held item instead of Life orb, due to Spacial rend's high-critial hit ratio....(also, focus punch with a higher critial hit ratio would help....probaly still hax though...)Also, should I have metagross as my psyically defensive pokemon for the standrad team, or leave the heavy psyical hitting to my Garchomp & have a supportive psyically defensive pokemon that can hurt the foe bad when needed, like Forretress or Scizor? |
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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF Calm nature - Rest - Sleep Talk - Seismic Toss / Thunderbolt - Ice Beam yep. [email protected] Careful nature 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Sp.D - Toxic / Thunderwave - Earthquake / Hammer Arm - Stone Edge - ice Punch / Stealth Rock Support. [email protected] Same spread and nature as above ~ Stone Edge / Rock Slide ~ Hammer Arm / Earthquake ~ Rest ~ Sleep Talk Rest-talk. [email protected] Same spread and nature as above ~ Curse ~ Stone Edge ~ Earthquake / Fire Punch ~ Ice Punch / Rest / Explosion Curse. [email protected] Relaxed Nature 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 Sp.D - Thunder - Ice Punch - Toxic - Hammer Arm / Earthquake Thunder pwns those Skarmory and Forry idiots who go lol set up fodder. It also hits bulk waters hard and owns Gyarados and has a cool paralysis rate. You may use Zap cannon if you are brave >=]. Hammer Arm dominates Porygon-z, T-Tar, and most importantly Magnet Rise Magnezone, whilst EQ hits Metagross, jirachi etc.. Anti will disagree, but BY far the most successful registeel set ive ever used. |
Any chance of a Physical set for Darkrai? And don't tell me to use a special set - just give me a physical set.
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[email protected] Orb Jolly Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP - Swords Dance - Dark Void - Brick Break - Payback / Shadow Claw Fighting and Ghost hit everything in the game for at least neutral. If you opt for payback, you get a stab move, but get walled by Heracross. OR [email protected] Band Jolly Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP - Payback - Pursuit - Brick Break - Return / Aerial Ace [email protected] Band 252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 SPEED Adamant Nature - U-Turn - Return - Waterfall - Toxic / <Insert something here due to lack of better options =/> Or [email protected] / Life Orb / Wet Rock 252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 SPEED Adamant Nature - Return - Waterfall - Rest - Rain Dance I dub thee Phiophail and Darkfail !!! XD Good luck btw, you'll need it lol |
Eh, Physical Darkrai?
I can think of something like Darkrai @ Leftovers Adamant/Jolly ~ 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP - Swords Dance - Taunt / Dark Void - Dark Void / Aerial Ace/ Focus Punch / Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Pursuit / Poison Jab - Shadow Claw / Focus Punch / Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Pursuit / Poison Jab Dark Void, SD on the switch, do something with your crappy physical movepool. Or maybe you can make one just to kill Giratina or something. They'll switch Giratina in hoping to absorb the Dark Void, but you SD that turn. Then they'll try to burn you, but you Taunt. Then you kill it Shadow Claw, which also hits Lugia which may try to PHaze you. Not really recommended, but sounds fun to use. And for Phione, I'd go with; Phione @ Leftovers / Damp Rock Adamant ~ 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def - Rain Dance - Waterfall - Rest - Toxic / Return / Psych Up / U-Turn Hydration set. Walled completely by Empoleon. If you don't pack Toxic, it's also walled by Quagsire, Poliwrath, Politoed, Vaporeon. If you don't pack Return, it's walled by Toxicroak. Psych Up may help you copy something's boosts, in case they decide to set up on you. U-Turn helps you get out when one of those Pokémon I mentioned is sent out. |
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Adamant 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP (Why did you put Sp. Atk?) - Swords Dance - Dark Void - Pursuit - Shadow Claw I think I'll go with this. If I've already SD'd, I'll pursuit them on the switch. And Shadow Claw owns their Giratina/Mewtwo/Insert Pokemon with low Defense. Phione @ Leftovers Adamant ~ 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def - Substitute - Waterfall - Rest - Return I'll sub and then Rest it off. This'll mesh well with my Rain Dance team. |
Oh, my friend came up with an interesting PhyPhione set. We shall call it the Phailone.
Phione @ Toxic Orb/Flame Orb Adamant ~ 252 Atk / 252 HP / 6 Def - Waterfall - Rain Dance - Rest - Facade / Fling Yes, it's pure novelty, but sounds fun. Phione will stay Poisoned every turn, but won't take Poison damage thanks to Hydration, meaning Facade gets even more powerful than Return. If you go with Flame Orb, don't use Facade but Fling, so you can Burn one of the opponent's physical treats. I'm sure Smogoners would have a field trip to hell and bash this set like there's no tomorrow, but don't we all like some fun sometimes? |
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Hey can I get some help with my team? Here they are.
Vaporeon - Aqua Ring, Shadow Ball/Acid Armor/Haze Surf, Ice Beam. Arcanine - Extreme Speed, Thunder Fang, Flare Blitz, Flamethrower Gengar - Thunder Bolt, Shadow Ball, Taunt, Sludge Bomb Gliscor - Earthquake, Stone Edge, Ice Fang, Stealth Rock/Baton Pass/ U-Turn/Aerial Ace And now I need two, more pokemon and move set help...I had a Venusaur and a Salemence...but I took those out, just didn't feel like usin' em'. So..please help me? Thanks to all who help me. |
Raff, you should also tell us their EVs and Natures. Otherwise, it won't be easy to help.
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I need a team with the following:
Altaria - HP/Status Ampharos - Special Sweeper Umbreon - Physical Sweeper (or whichever one of Eevees evos will work best) Lickilicky - Physical Wall Gorebyss - Special Wall Gallade - Filler/Extra |
Oh, sorry. And I don't and CAN'T Calculate Ev's...heh..never learned...to confusing..and I don't really matter bout' natures much...I don't know what ALL of em; do.
[email protected] Ability - Water Abosrb Nature:Gentle Shadow Ball/Acid Armor/Haze Aqua Ring Ice Beam Surf/Water Pulse [email protected](don't have a held item.) Nature: Adament Ability - Flash Fire Flamethrower Flare Blitz Thunder Fang Extreme Speed [email protected] Sludge Ability - Levitate Nature: Hasty Taunt Thunderbolt Sludge bomb Shadow Ball [email protected]'t think of a held item... Ability - Hyper Cutter Nature: Bold Stealth Rock/Aerial Ace/Baton Pass/ U-Turn Stone Edge/Rock Slide Ice Fang Earthquake EDIT: I wasn't sure to ask this or not..but would a Weavile do good in this party? |
First off, you really need to nature breed. -Att on glisor? Arcanine's the only one that's right atm.
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But then again, my win record could be inacurate as I battle Lutia 50% of the time and I think Dark Azelf and Gofre know what a noob she is like LMAO :) (Speaking of her I had another Epic battle, Luvdisk v Feebas....... ......Legend...) |
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HI, I think I accidentally posted this as a topic, but it did not get accepted. Here's what I wanted to post, and I think that this is the right place.
I would like to make a team for my Poke'Mon Diamond. I want a nice and balanced team to use for WiFi battles. Here are some of the poke'mon that I would like to use: Keep in mind, if there is a Diamond Pokemon that would HAVE to repleace one of these, then I will use it because I am not yet that familiar with the new PD Pkmn because I've been at the BF on Emerald for a very long time. Torkoal - Tank? Def Evs, Attack Evs, HP Iron Defence Flamethrower ----- ----- Starmie - Special Sweeper? Speed, Spec. Attk., HP Surf --- --- --- Blissey Metagross Ampharos - Already Ev'd for Special attack. These are Poke'mon taht I would likke in my team, but just because I have them on here, doesn't mean they're gonna be in my team. If there is a Pokemon better, I'll swap it out and try it. I need a 6th spot also. If you give me genuine help, I'll provide you with a Masterball. I am leaving at 5:30 PM EST Time to go on vacation to camp and I would like an answer by then. Thanks Kody |
Torkoal is kind of a lame tank. He has the defense, but the amount of weaknesses he has (Ground, Rock, and Water, all three very common) make him less than ideal. Not to mention his movepool is pretty small.
Starmie is a pretty good Special Sweeper. Starmie @ Choice Specs Modest/ Timid 252 SAtk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP - Surf - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Psychic/ Grass Knot Specstar. Modest gives you more power, but Timid lets you outspeed Timid Gengar. Blissey is commonly known as the best special wall in the game. :P Blissey @ Leftovers Calm 252 Def/ 216 SDef/ 40 HP - Softboiled - Seismic Toss - Ice Beam/ Aromatherapy - Toxic/ Thunder Wave Good thing you have Emerald- Seismic Toss is only obtainable through the Emerald Move Tutor. Anyway, Aromatherapy lets you heal teammates, but Ice Beam gives Bliss a second attack and makes her a somewhat decent Garchomp counter, and allows her to hit Gengar. Thunderwave allows you to paralyze foes, but Toxic allows her to stall and is, in my opinion, better. Metagross @ Choice Band Adamant 252 Atk/ 244 HP/ 12 Def - Meteor Mash - Earthquake - Explosion - Thunderpunch/ Pursuit/ Bullet Punch Raw power. Thunderpunch is a third gen Move Tutor move, by the way. |
Thank-You for helping me. I'll think about it. I'll think about the MasterBall too, but I need 3 more Poke'Mon. Probably a Physical Sweeper, Maybe a tank...?
AeroDactyl Atk/Def Evs -EarthQuake? - - - I figure if I get an AeroDactyl, and a Dragonite/flying dragon poke'mon, I can use Fly on Dragonite ( i know fly is bad, but I do get random good hits) and then that moment, use EarthQuke on Aerodactyl so I can hit the other 2 opponents without hurting Dragonite. Is Fly worth it? Would I be unbalanced and weak because I have 2 flying types? I would like a pokemon with decent fire moves, one with decent physical moves, and a pokemon of a type i dont have yet. ----AeroDactyl? ----fire pkmn ----? I need those 3 more pokemon |
Dragonite is flying so EQ won't hurt him anyway. Is this for double battles? I have an Aerodactyl that does pretty well as a physical sweeper. Watch as people tell me this isn't a standard moveset, then watch me not care.
[email protected] Orb EVs: 252 att, 252 spd, 6 hp Jolly Thunder Fang Ice Fang EQ Aerial Ace |
Never use fly. EVER
Sorry, but it has no use whatsoever. Anyways, rant over :P Standard Aerodactyl: [email protected] Band Jolly 252Att/216Spd/42HP EQ Stone Edge Fire Fang Ice Fang I myself don't run the HP EVs, but apparently they're standard. Some people also run rock slide over Stone edge since it has better accuracy and high flinch rate. Standard Dragonite: [email protected] Orb/Leftovers Jolly 252Att/252Spd/6HP Dragon Dance Outrage Fire Ounch/Fire Blast Earthquake DDNite, quite a beast. |
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Um, I was wondering if someone would be able to give me a moveset/nature/item for an offensive drapion.
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Sweeper Leftovers / Scope Lens Sniper Jolly MovesetEVs~ Swords Dance ~ Night Slash ~ Brick Break / Earthquake ~ Knock Off / Fire Fang 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe Sniper is an amazing ability, especially with all the high CH moves that Drapion possesses. Night Slash is the main STAB attack here. Brick Break is for coverage, particularly against Steels and Tyranitar; Earthquake can also do this. Knock Off will hurt against Heracross and Skarmory, but Fire Fang offers more general damage. Drapion's good Speed and Defense make it a prime candidate for Swords Dancing. The Speed is enough to outspeed base 100 neutral nature Pokémon. Here's the set I'd use....(I hate the idea of being locked onto 1 move....) |
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Ah. Hmmm... That's the main problem I have. I can't decide whether I want him to spin, or sweep (good speed and spatk).
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Hi i would like a good moveset for some pokemon
List: Magnezone Rotom Granbull Togekiss Meganauim (Chikorita Evo) And Jynx And any thing will do like sweppers or anything else i would just like a simple tough team to beat my mates please! |
Oh yeah... especially with all those TTars running around. Thanks!
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Magnezone @ Life Orb Trait: Magnet Pull Nature: Modest / Mild EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 172 HP / 84 Defense - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power [ICE] - Metal Sound / Explosion / Magnet Rise - Substitute / Flash Cannon / Thunder Wave Thunderbolt can 2HKO Blissey when used in conjunction with Metal Sound. Explosion is a good way to attack Blissey as well. Magnet Rise evades ground type moves like the ever-so-common Earthquake. Especially evading Dugtrio's Arena Trap and Earthquake and hit it with Hidden Power [ICE]. Flash Cannon is doable, but the coverage isn't. Sometimes it helps with Rock types that carry Earthquake, but meh. Thunderwave is self explanitory, whereas Substitute evades Explosion damage and status moves that threaten Magnezone. Rotom @ Life Orb Trait: Levitate Nature: Timid Evs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Thunderbolt / Discharge - Will-o-wisp / Thunder Wave - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [ICE/FIGHT] Pretty decent sweeper in UU. There's also a Trickspecs moveset. Granbull @ Choice Band Trait: Intimidate Nature: Adamant Evs: 252 Attack / 172 HP / 84 Defense - Body Slam / Return - Close Combat - Earthquake - Crunch / Ice Fang Slow and fragile, but Intimidate keeps its defenses up so it can withstand a physical hit. Body Slam is in hopes of paralyzing the opponent so Granbull can outrun / get a free switch in and hit really hard. Togekiss @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace Nature: Modest / Calm EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 172 Sp.Def / 84 Speed - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Thunder Wave / Body Slam - Roost / Softboiled Standard ParaFlinch set. Togekiss abuses Serene Grace with this moveset. Body Slam hits physically even with its weak Attack stat, but still gets a 60% paralyze chance. Thunder Wave is if you're lazy like that. Paralyze has 25% chance each turn for the opponent to skip their own turn (it can't move). Combined with Air Slash's 60% chance of flinching (Serene Grace), the opponent has only a 15% chance of attacking each turn (100-60-25=15). Roost is just annoying. Tri Attack is an alternative move in this moveset. Meganium @ Leftovers Trait: Overgrow Nature: Bold Evs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 84 Sp.Def - Energy Ball - Aromatherapy / Hidden Power [ELECTRIC/ICE] - Grasswhistle / Light Screen / Reflect / Leech Seed / Synthesis - Grasswhistle / Light Screen / Reflect / Leech Seed / Synthesis Jynx @ Leftovers Trait: Forewarn Nature: Modest / Timid Evs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Icebeam - Calm Mind - Substitute - Lovely Kiss |
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That and flinch hax Togekiss is a luck-reliant "strategy" that is very unreliable and is totally inferior to BP and Nasty Plot sweeper sets Togekiss can run. That, and people will just try their luck to stall you out, which works more often than not. It's just a waste of a team slot IMO.
Togekiss @ Leftovers Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 104 Spd / 152 SAtk (if I remember that right) Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Nasty Plot - Roost It's great. Almost nothing really walls this well, and pass it some speed or a substitute and it's really unstoppable. I've also heard it runs a nasty CB set with Hustle, but I haven't tried it out. And a quick little opinion on Maggy, it generally likes sub to avoid Bronzong Hypnosis and whatnot. That and it grants protection against any attack except maybe Bonemerang (lol). Maggy Rise is pretty much necessary or you get walled a lot easier and killing steels is a lot tougher (though with Shed Shell it's already hard enough). |
Zapdos and Rotom wall Togekiss completely, so make sure you scout your opponent's team for them first before setting Togekiss up.
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Hey, could I have a team that's just overall good for OU? I don't want ANY Ubers.
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Can I get movesets for the following?;
Typhlosion Heracross Skarmory Blissey Starmie Not sure what should go in the last spot. Yeah, so I need alot of help. XD My only essential pokemon is Typhlosion so any changes made to the others are fine. =D |
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My friend and I are doing an NU-tier battle just for the heck of it, and I need a good moveset for my Bidoof.
Current moveset: Bidoof @ Shell Bell Return Aqua Tail Superpower Amnesia |
I believe Bidoof is NFE, unless of course you meant Bibarel
[email protected] Orb/Leftovers Adament/Jolly Nature EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP Simple -Double Edge/Return -Waterfall -Superpower -Quick Attack Simple doubles all stat changes made, so if you pass him a SD it essentially passes 2 to him (unless my understanding is off). Quick Attack is there to finish off weakened foes (Focus Sashers). The rest is because that's pretty much all he can do |
You're quite right Angelic Diablo.
I still recommend running Super Fang on all Bibarel sets- it's just that awesome of an attack. Also, it's worth mentioning Pluck, which OHKO's Breloom and Heracross even without the SD. You could always run Amnesia and get a +4 Sp. Def boost. Bibarel also learns Taunt, another simply awesome move. |
I'm guessing that you want the Typhlosion as a Special Sweeper??
[email protected] Rash 252 SAtk/ 238 Speed/ 20 HP OR (Pref.) 252 SAtk / 238 Speed / 8 HP / 8 Defense - Fire Blast - Eruption - Sunny Day / ??? - Solar Beam (Only If You Use Sunny Day, or have your other pkmn use it during double battle) |
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Also, this is not a Special Sweeper, but a Chlorophyll-less Sunnybeamer. I recommend a lead Typhlosion with Choice Scarf; Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf Blaze 252 Sp. Atk / 144 Atk / 112 Speed Mild/Rash - Eruption - Focus Punch - Overheat - Hidden Power [Ice] A full powered Eruption is something to fear when coming from an above average Special Attack, backed up with Choice Scarf and 112 Speed EVs, outspeeding Base 130 Pokémon. The Atk EVs allow your prediction to pay off by 2HKOing Blissey, in case the oponent switches her in to take the Eruption. Overheat is for whenever your Eruption isn't powered up anymore due to residual damage [Typhy is weak to Stealth Rock], HP Ice for those pesky Dragons. You could change Overheat or HP for Earthquake to kick Heatran's balls in case it comes trying to absorb your Eruption, but a Focus Punch also cripples it pretty badly. |
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Any pokemon that would work particularly well in tangent with Typhlosion? |
Since Typhlosion is weak to SR, packing a Rapid Spinner is usually a good choice.
Blissey, Snorlax and Milotic all wall it- so having something to destroy them usually pays off, too. Blissey and Snorlax have problems against Machamp, while I recommend using Starmie to take care of Milotic. |
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2) I stated that it would work better if a partner pokemon used before you sent out the Typho, or if a partner Pokemon used it during Double Battle 3) Typo 4) Typho has rather low defence, and you don't want some phyical sweeper ground typed Pokemon KOing you with Eq 5) Again, why not? 6) Excuse me, for not being up-to-date on terms, and a Chlorophyll-less Sunnybeamer, is just a type of Special Sweeper, is it not? |
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You don't need to cover only types you're weak against- scoring SE hits against walls is just as important. |
Devi is right, sunnybeam sucks. The boost to fire moves is minimal and solarbeam is a sucky move with terrible coverage. It also makes you extremely predictable with 3 of your 4 moves already open to the public. Heatran walls you no end too. Use the set devi suggested.
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Making up a team of Pokemon using movesets that are either using their weakest stat (such as Specslax) or just weird movesets/EVs. This team will probably be novelty, but I need some help.
Here is a Tyranitar I'm working on: Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf 232 SpA, 62 Spe, 216Att Hasty Nature Dynamic Punch Dragon Pulse Crunch Thunderbolt Meh, maybe this will be unheard of and hopefully unused currently. Snorlax @ Choice Specs 252 HP, 252 SpA, 6 Def Modest Nature Blizzard/Ice Beam Focus Blast Thunderbolt/Thunder Fire Blast/Flamethrower Snorlax has an excellent Special movepool, so why not? Confused at what to use; Base 120 attacks for power, or Base 95 for accuracy. Lax needs all the power he can get with that sagging 65 Base SpA Blissey @ Life Orb 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Def Adamant Nature Double Edge Dynamic Punch Earthquake Softboiled Awesome coverage xD. Life Orb so I can Softboiled. Alakazam @ Focus Sash 252 Def, 202 HP, 56 SpD Calm Safeguard Reflect Light Screen Thief Walling Zam is awesome. If I can get up all three, I can sweep, sweep, sweep with everyone else. Gengar @ Life Orb 252 Att, 252 Spe, 6 HP Adamant Shadow Claw Focus Punch Substitute Ice Punch Nothing can wall the mad attack of physical GENGAR! Infernape @ Leftovers 252 Def, 252 SpD, 6 HP Bold Protect Will O Wisp Slack Off U-Turn Inferwall. Slack Off gives me instant heal. Will O Wisp lets me halve enemy attack stats. Protect for scouting and U-Turn to switch in a counter. |
I'm sorry, but deliberately misusing pokes does not warrent a rate. If they were novelty yet plausible i would, but as it stands there is no point with half of those pokes.
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Hasty 252 Speed/64 SpA/194 Att Ice Beam Fire Blast Crunch Stone Edge/Earthquake Standard MixScarfTar, OHKOs stuff like Gar. Snorlax @ Choice Specs 252 HP, 252 SpA, 6 Def Modest Nature Blizzard/Ice Beam Focus Blast Thunderbolt/Thunder Fire Blast/Flamethrower Snorlax has an excellent Special movepool, so why not? Confused at what to use; Base 120 attacks for power, or Base 95 for accuracy. Lax needs all the power he can get with that sagging 65 Base SpA What >.> Blissey @ Life Orb 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Def Adamant Nature Double Edge Dynamic Punch Earthquake Softboiled Awesome coverage xD. Life Orb so I can Softboiled. What >.> Alakazam @ Focus Sash 252 SpA/252 Speed/6 HP Timid Counter Encore Psychic GK CounterEncoreSash is way cooler. Gengar @ Choice Band 252 Att, 252 Spe, 6 HP Adamant Shadow Claw Focus Punch Thunderbolt/Poison Jab Ice Punch NEEDS CB, cannot be emphasised more. Infernape @ Leftovers 252 Def, 252 SpD, 6 HP Bold Protect Will O Wisp Slack Off U-Turn Inferwall. Slack Off gives me instant heal. Will O Wisp lets me halve enemy attack stats. Protect for scouting and U-Turn to switch in a counter. Gofre I did that half which has point =P |
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And I think Simple only works for moves used ON it and not baton passed to it. By the way, what does NFE mean? |
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I think that Pokemon are only placed in the NFE tier if they are exactly like their evolutions. For example, Sneasel is NFE, as he is simply an underpowered Weavile. Someone like Porygon2, however, is considered UU (I think) because he's bulkier than his epileptic evolution. And I shouldn't have to bring up Scyther.
Since Bidoof doesn't have the secondary Water typing of Bibarel, he's considered a different Pokemon, and placed in a relevant tier. I think. :/ |
Inferwall was win :( But I actually am interested in Scarftar. Is it better than CB at leads considering the extra speed?
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Can someone help me for a moveset for a Salamence? I generally want him to be a mixed sweeper since I have 2 special sweepers and 1 physical sweeper. Any ideas?
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