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Standard Smogon Mixmence. Time to increase my postcount, thanks to you lazy people!
Salamence @ Life Orb 120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe Intimidate Mild/Rash -Brick Break -Draco Meteor -Fire Blast / Flamethrower -Dragon Claw / Crunch / Roost BBreak, Meteor and your fire attack will hit everything for huge amounts of damage. Your fourth move is recommended to be one of those: Dragon Claw is for a more reliable Dragon-typed move. Crunch is for Cresselia and Dusknoir. Roost is there in case you want to recover some Life Orb damage. |
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Well I only have 3 that Im askin about before I get a good understandin
Wobbufett-whats the best nature? what should I focus evs on and is his basic moveset good? Bastiodon,Rampardos-I dont kno to much about them jus need to kno prefered natures and movesset Thanks and sorry if Im doin it wrong |
For Wobbuffet, it depends. Jolly Wobbuffet can outrun most walls and PP stall them to death. If you want to go standard Wobba, go with a +Def or +SDef nature, and invest EVs in both defenses.
Bastiodon, don't bother. It's 4x weak to Fighting and Ground, two types that are extremely common. As for Rampardos, go with ScarfDos. He can outrun a number of faster threats, such as Gengar. Go with... Rampardos @ Choice Scarf Jolly 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP - HEAD SMAAAAASH - Earthquake - Crunch - Pursuit/ Focus Punch It's possible to put Stone Edge over Head Smash, but doing so would void your rights of being a man. Seriously, you may as well put on your bikini and go sunbathing. |
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Leftovers 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature Ability: Pressure -Substitute -Protect -Fly -Rock Slide/Earthquake I use this in UN and I find this can irritate oppoments greatly, simply wear down their pp while evadeing attack! (Good fo a poke that you are having trouble with :) ) |
Or, they can switch out to an appropriate counter while you are up in the air. Bad enough Aero is fragile. Then weak to Taunt. Hell, that's Gya weak. Aero should never be Gya weak. While you Fly, I can either
-Switch out -Charge up -Taunt when you come down -Smash you hard as soon as you land, breaking your weak sub. |
what yall think?
My Diamond Team (tell me what you think):
1. Sparky (Luxray) LVL 100 Modest 1. Discharge 2. Thunderbolt 3. Iron Tail 4. Crunch 2. Spikey (Rhypherior) LVL 100 Impish 1. Earthquake 2. Stone Edge 3. Swords Dance 4. Megahorn 3. Milo (Milotic) LVL 100 Bold 1. Surf 2. Ice Beam 3. Recover 4. Hypnosis 4. Razly (Roserade) LVL 100 Timid 1. Sunny Day 2. Weather Ball 3. Leaf Storm 4. Sludge Bomb 5. Blaze (Charizard) LVL 100 Adamant 1. SolarBeam 2. Seismic Toss 3. Flamethrower 4. Fly 6. Zues (Arceus) LVL 100 Rash 1. Judgment 2. Aeroblast 3. Hydro Cannon 4. Frenzy Plant ^ I was thikin about replacing Arceus with a Sableye with the movies Lock-on, Fissure, Sheer cold, Horn Drill. Naughty Nature... |
Anything can beat the Elite Four, so this doesn't really warrant a rate.
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A team of 5 Magikarps & a Weedle, carefully EV'ed to lvl 100, can barely crash your game, as they will destroy the elite four.'
I may be exaggerating, but I'm too scared to try. |
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Set is [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SPEED / 6 sp.def Jolly Nature - Safeguard - Encore - Counter - Mirror Coat You can put the def evs in Hp aswell or sp.def if you wish, depending on which sort of hits you want it to take. Next, this is your Standard set. [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP Bold Nature - Encore - mirror Coat - Counter - Safeguard / Charm And lastly, evil set [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP Bold Nature - Tickle - Counter - mirror Coat - Encore Best way to abuse this abusive set is to use it in conjunction with a Powerful CB Pursuit user such as T-Tar or Weavile, or even Scizor. Encore something stupid and Tickle, so they get -6 att and - 6 def,switch in your CBander and Pursuit them as they switch. Bear in mind, a -6 def Pursuit basically ohko's Skarmory =X, scary huh ? Please dont use this blue blob against me.......EVER >=[. Seriously, dont. |
Can someone please give me a good moveset for Bidoof? (see my posts 1 page back)
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Ok here goes..... Choice Band 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant/Lonely Nature Ability: Unaware -Return -Waterfall -Superpower -Rollout Hate to say it but after looking at bidoof my opinion is negative, it sucks |
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Secondly, NU isnt really a tier. A set of crap pokemon essentially tackling each other doesnt make for an exciting game. Even in NU bidoof sucks, there are plenty of evolved NUs that will kill it off. |
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A few options are Super Fang It instantly removes HALF of the opponents HP. ER'Y TIME. If they have 400 HP, they instantly fall to 200. Use it again, back to 100. Once more, 50. And so on. Unaware Makes his job so much easier when your enemy, (for example, Cradily), boost their stats enough (like using Barrier), only for those charges to be IGNORED. Simple Sweepers would kill for this ability. Using Charge Beam, & getting the Boost, would get your Sp.Atk by TWO levels, not just one. It doubles the stat increases. Those cannot be ignored. EDIT:Oh, BIDOOF! I thought Bibarel. Still, mah point stands. |
ok ignore my bidoof request, I have a better pkmn for my NU team now.
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I want to make a team with these pokes
T-Tar, Garchomp, Gliscor, Empoleon, Starmie, Blissey. Any thoughts? |
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Tyranitar @Choice Band 60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spd Adamant Nature ability: Sandstream -Stone Edge -Earthquake -Crunch -Pursuit/Focus Punch Garchomp @Life Orb EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 Spd Jolly Nature -Dragon Claw -Earthquake -Swords Dance -Fire Fang Gliscor @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature Ability: Sand Veil -Earthquake -Aerial Ace -Roost -Knock Off/Stealth Rock Empoleon @Leftovers EVs: 252 HP / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef Calm Nature -Surf -Ice Beam/Grass Knot -Rest -Sleep Talk Starmie @Leftovers EVs: 236 HP / 56 SAtk / 216 Spd Timid Nature Ability: Natural Cure -Surf -Thunderbolt/Ice Beam -Rapid Spin -Recover Blissey @Leftovers EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 108 SAtk Bold Nature Ability: Natural Cure -Ice Beam -Seismic Toss -Softboiled -Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave/Sing |
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Allright thanks, looks similar to the one I had planned, but the Blissey is different. I used a Clam Mind Blissey with more defence.
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does anyone have any ideas of a good moveset for a physical sweeping feraligator(bad spelling) i'm kind of stuck
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You can opt for either a Dragon Dance or a Swords Dance set.
Keep in mind Gyarados does DD much better. Feraligatr @ Life Orb / Leftovers EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 228 Spe Adamant ~ Torrent - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Ice Punch - Earthquake as for a Swords Dance set, I'd go with; Feraligatr @ Salac Berry EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Jolly ~ Torrent - Swords Dance - Waterfall - Ice Punch - Earthquake Feraligatr is quite bulky, so you can hope to get one or two SDs and have the opponent lower your health just enough for Salac to activate, which will activate Torrent too, making Waterfall beastly. |
i know what you mean about gyrados but everyone uses it so i don't like it anymore... oh and thanks
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I love the second set. Gatr has thimgs that Gya & Swampert doesn't, and that's both a stronger Ice move in Ice Punch, Swords Dance, & Torrent. That set plays to his biggest strengths.
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Whats a good nature for the event deoxy so far i have a bold that is saved (my bad)
bold 152 61 156 64 155 and a not saved modest 139 65 187 64 159 should i keep going and try for something else |
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What IVs should I be aiming for on a +SDef RestTalk Lax? 30+/20+/20+/ x /30+/ x ? I usually aim for about 20+ in HP, Def and SDef for walls. |
'Ken Help?
Blaziken @ [Please no choice items if they can be helped!] Earth Quake Blaze Kick [Possibly up for a swap, ideally another fire move though] Brave Bird Stealth Rock [?] 252 Speed | 152 Sp. Attk | 100 Attk. Not sure of it's role in the team, maybe the lead? |
Hey guys I need some advice, I am looking for a set for lucario, I am thinking about a special sweeping set but I am not sure. could you give me some movesets please as I am uncertain where to start. Thanks :)
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SpecsLuke Lucario @ Choice Specs Modest <4Def/252SpAtk/252Speed> Dragon Pulse Dark Pulse Vacuum Wave/Psychic Aura Sphere You'll need to breed with Hitmonchan for Vacuum Wave. SDLuke Lucario @ Life Orb/Expert Belt Adamant <4HP/252ATK/252Speed> Close Combat Swords Dance Extreme Speed/Stone Edge Crunch/Stone Edge Physical Attacker. Life Orb gives more Attack boost but inflicts damage to the wearer. I prefer ExtremeSpeed over SE but Crunch and SE are up to you. Both these sets can take out a Cresselia off 1-2 hits. I'd use SDLuke but that's only because my experiences with him have been better. SpecsLuke just annoyed me because of the Choice Specs. You could replace it with Exert Belt but that'll only boost 2 of your moves and will prove to be useless. |
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[email protected] Band/Scarf Jolly/Adament Nature EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Sky Uppercut/Brick Break -Flare Blitz -Stone Edge/Thunderpunch -Focus Punch/Brave Bird/Thunderpunch Poor thing is suicidal at best, anyway Brave Bird is mainly for Infernape, whom you only outspeed with a Scarf on, otherwise it doesn't have much use. If only it got Roost... |
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Glad I could help. =] Anyways, PM me if you'd like some more info on Luke. For Special Sweeper I'd rather use Cresselia but Luke works fine.
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Blaziken @ [Pleaase no Choice items!] Jolly/Adamant - Brick Break - Thunderpunch / Blazekick / Focus Punch - Earthquake - Roost | 252 Attk - 252 Spd - 6 HP | |
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Anyone know a good moveset for an Infernape I was thinking about making it mixed not sure and a Moveset for a Garachomp and a Snorlax plz
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Can anyone help me with my Blue team?
I'm restarting my Blue Version for an old-school pokemon tournament with my friends. I have a week to get a team together and train. What are your recommendations/most successful teams? The only permanent member of the team would be Charizard, the rest is up to you.
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first of all is wobbeffet an uber and whats a good moveset for him
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Shadow Tag Bold/Calm Evs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD ~ Counter ~ Mirror Coat ~ Encore ~ Charm / Safeguard Smogon set. I believe he's OU now. |
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24 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 232 SPEED Naive Nature - Close Combat - Flamethrower / Fire Blast - Nasty Plot / Hidden power ice - Grass Knot OR [email protected] Band 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Jolly nature - U-Turn - Stone Edge - Flare Blitz - Close Combat .-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- [email protected] 252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 ATT Careful nature Trait : Thick Fat - Body Slam - Earthquake / Crunch - Rest - Sleep Talk .-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- [email protected] Orb / Yache Berry Jolly Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP - Fire Fang - Swords Dance - Dragon Claw / Outrage - Earthquake OR [email protected] Band Jolly Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP - Fire Fang / Fire Blast - Dragon Claw / Stone Edge / Crunch - Outrage - Earthquake OR [email protected] Scarf Adamant Nature 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP - Fire Fang / Fire Blast - Dragon Claw / Stone Edge / Crunch - Outrage - Earthquake Quote:
Set is [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SPEED / 6 sp.def Jolly Nature - Safeguard - Encore - Counter - Mirror Coat You can put the def evs in Hp aswell or sp.def if you wish, depending on which sort of hits you want it to take. Next, this is your Standard set. [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP Bold Nature - Encore - mirror Coat - Counter - Safeguard / Charm And lastly, evil set [email protected] 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP Bold Nature - Tickle - Counter - mirror Coat - Encore Best way to abuse this abusive set is to use it in conjunction with a Powerful CB Pursuit user such as T-Tar or Weavile, or even Scizor. Encore something stupid and Tickle, so they get -6 att and - 6 def,switch in your CBander and Pursuit them as they switch. Bear in mind, a -6 def Pursuit basically ohko's Skarmory =X, scary huh ? Please dont use this blue blob against me.......EVER >=[. Seriously, dont. |
Can somebody provide sets that are generally useful for the 3 Deoxys forms? Me and my bro just got back from Gamestop and were wondering what could be some decent sets for each form. I checked Smogon but I don't know which sets to go with. Attack Form I'd prolly go with the first set they list but I'm not sure about Defense Form or Speed Form. Advice?
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Actually Smogon has the best sets =P It all depends on your team, but keep in mind only the Speed form is allowed in normal play, the Attack, Defense and Normal forms are banned from normal play, but they are still allowed to compete in Ubers i.e. with everything allowed, so the sets are tailored for the Ubers metagame, with Thunder because of Rain from Kyogre, Shadow Ball for Mewtwo and Lugia and stuff.
I prefer to run more Speed EVs (148 if I remember correctly) to outspeed Scarfed +nature base 95s on Deoxys-Speed, but you should adjust the speed according to your needs. Don't use the Cosmic Wall, it can't do anything honestly ~_~ I got a nice Deoxys-S set that functions like Counterstar(Starmie) countering Garchomp, Gyarados and Mixape as well as not dying to sweeper Gyarados due to its immense speed (Starmie would fall in one hit from Bite as it is outspeeded. Deoxys-S @ Leftovers Timid, 252 HP/188 SpA/76 Spe Thunderbolt Ice Beam Psychic Recover The main problem with this set is that it is weak to Pursuit especially from stuff like Tyranitar, which would not normally switch into it due to Superpower. Anyway I recommend you to stick to the Life Orb Deoxys-S set (the first one) as it is probably the best revenge-killer. Deoxys-D IMO needs Spikes/SR to not be outclassed by a lot of stuff in general as 50/160/160 defenses aren't that impressive in comparison to Lugia. |
alright thanks ^^
I obviously wouldn't use A or D in standard play but having a few trained ubers is always fun :p |
What are the standard movesets for GLISCOR and Togekiss?
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Could I please get a moveset for Honchkrow, and is Jumpluff any good?
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[email protected] 252 HP / 184 DEF / 72 SPEED Impish nature - Ice Fang / Aerial Ace / Stone Edge - Earthquake - Roost - Stealth Rock / Knock off / Taunt 72 speed to outspeed Breloom, Jolly t-tar and Timid Magnezone. [email protected] 252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF Calm nature Trait : Serene Grace - Thunderwave / Body Slam - Air Slash - Aura Sphere - Roost Flinch hax. [email protected] 252 HP / 152 Sp.Att / 104 Speed Modest nature Trait : Serene Grace - Nasty Plot - Aura Sphere - Air Slash - Roost Nasty Plot sweeper. Quote:
[email protected] Band / Choice Scarf 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6hp Jolly / Adamant Nature - Sucker Punch (<Use with CB) / Night Slash - Steel Wing - Drill peck - Pursuit / Night Slash OR [email protected] specs 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Modest / Timid Nature - Icy Wind - psychic - Hidden power Fighting - Dark pulse Alternately, you can go life orb and put Nasty Plot >> Icy Wind. Yes, Jumpluff is evil =[ [email protected] 188 Def / 68 Sp.D / 252 Speed Jolly Nature - Encore - Substitute - leech Seed - Sleep powder Sub seeds everything to death. Funny when you switch in Earthquakes and Encore them. Same when you set a sub up on status moves and Encore them too XDD |
can i get a moveset for a Feraligatr and possibly a Flygon?
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Could I get some movesets for Slowking, Scizor, Kabutops and Mr. Mime?
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[email protected] Band *I'm just as good as the other dragons >.>*
Jolly/Adamant 252atk/252spd/6HP Earthquake Dragon Claw U-Turn/Stone Edge U-Turn/Fire Blast It you opt for Fire Blast, go Lonely or Hasty, or even Naughty/Naive. You can also use Choice Scarf. At that point, make it a lead and give it U-Turn for sure. Use Adamant, Lonely, or Naughty at that point. That's the only one I can name off the bat. Someone will post some sets here later, at least I'm pretty sure. |
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Scizor @ Life Orb Adamant <100HP/252ATK/156Speed> Agility Iron Head X-Scissor Brick Break This is the set that I was using at one stage. For EV's you could use 108HP/252ATK/148Speed but I prefer the extra Speed EV's. This set would use Swarm as ability. Alternatively you could use this set: Scizor @ Life Orb Adamant <232HP/252ATK/26Def> Swords Dance Quick Attack Roost X-Scissor/Brick Break You need Technician on this guy to give Quick Attack that extra BP boost. 60 BP over the original 40 isn't shabby eh? These are the best sweeper sets. Then again there are Choice Scarf and Choice Band sets but they're for late sweeping and I've never liked Scizor as a late sweeper. If you'd like to know the other sets, here they are. Scarfzor @ Choice Scarf Adamant <28HP/252Atk/228Speed> U-Turn Iron Head Pursuit/Night Slash Brick Break/Aerial Ace If you're using Night Slash and Brick Break then Swarm is the preffered ability but if you're using either Aerial Ace or Pursuit then Technician would work best on this guy. Bandzor @ Choice Band Adamant <4HP/252ATK/252Speed> U-Turn/X-Scissor Iron Head Pursuit Brick Break/Quick Attack Once again, Swarm for the more powerful moves, Technician for the likes of Quick Attack and Pursuit. |
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Physical & Even more slow. Slowking @ Leftovers Adamant 252 hp 252 atk 4 def -Curse -Zen Headbutt -Earthquake -Avalanche ^ is one of my BL standards and.... teh slowking epicness. Slowking @ Leftovers Modest 212 hp 44 def 252 sp.atk -Calm mind -Ice Beam -Surf -Slack Off ^ OWNAGE |
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I think my last post was a little too vague. Here's what I'm thinking now for my Blue Version Team:
Charizard: Fire Spin Slash Earthquake Flamethrower Victreebel: Wrap Stun Spore Poison Powder/Sleep Powder Razor Leaf As for others I'm thinking either Persian or Snorlax, maybe Chansey if I can catch and train one in time for a normal or tank. Other suggestions I've gotten are Lapras, Starmie, Golem, Alakazam, Dugtrio, Jolteon, Electabuzz, etc. I'm still looking for more input though, what do you guys think? |
You can always check out Smogon's RBY Tier List for ideas on sets and such.
Speaking from experience, Persian with Slash is a critical hit monster. Golem and Rhydon are both powerful walls, and Chansey is a montrous Special wall, and since SDef and SAtk are one and the same in RBY, she's also a good Special attacker. And Starmie and Alakazam are monstrous special sweepers. |
Which one of these set is the hardest to counter?
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/salamence I was thinking perhaps the mixmence... |
The worst part about countering Mence is not knowing what set they have.
Once you know, it's a tad easier. |
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Also, I'd like to know what one out of the bulkygyara or the DDgyara is harder to counter.... Here's the page: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gyarados |
For Salamence, a lack of CBMence is a major surprise for everything, so I actually suggest that since they think "LOLSPECSMENCE GO BLISSEY!". It cries as about 2/3rd of its health is shaved away if you picked Dragon Claw. Then, they gotta send in their physical wall to take a hit as well (or a Steel type if you picked Dragon Claw). Therefore, my answer is Choice Band Salamence. Dragon Claw/Earthquake/Stone Edge/Flamethrower (for downing Skarm/Forretress)
For Gyarados, there are mixed feelings. Bulky Gyarados is easier to counter due to lower speed, but it can switch in and even counter things itself. The DD Sweeper is harder to counter, but you can't get it in very well due to less bulk. |
what something you can do with deoxys
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Deoxys-S (speed), if allowed in OU, can be pretty powerful as a late-game cleaner.
[email protected] Orb/Expert Belt *Bye bye metagame* Hasty 160atk/252sp.atk/96spd Psychic Superpower Ice Beam Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball This thing really owns things hard. Superpower takes down Tyranitar and Blissey (with Life Orb, the above EVs 2HKO Blissey I believe and OHKO Tyranitar.), Psychic for general STAB, and Ice Beam for Dragons. The last option is personal preference. If Gyarados gives you trouble, then let it eat Thunderbolt, as well as other waters. If for some reason you're so terrified of Shedinja that you must kill it, Shadow Ball is there for it, Cresselia, and Dusknoir. If Togekiss passes this some Nasty Plot boosts, then it will devastate basically everything. If you want to take it Ubers, inform here, then sets will come for that. |
I need some help forming my team right now I have a Grumpig( lvl 45, Serious Nature, Own Tempo), a Gengar( Lvl 43, Timid Nature, Levitate), a Arcanine(Lvl 61, Jolly Nature, Flash Fire), and a Rampardos( LVL 54, Sassy Nature, Mold Breaker) could you please tell me some good move sets.
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One question: Is this for an in-game team, or is this for competitive battling on wi-fi? I just wanna get that out of the way first.
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[quote=ABYAY;3699606]For Salamence, a lack of CBMence is a major surprise for everything, so I actually suggest that since they think "LOLSPECSMENCE GO BLISSEY!". It cries as about 2/3rd of its health is shaved away if you picked Dragon Claw. Then, they gotta send in their physical wall to take a hit as well (or a Steel type if you picked Dragon Claw). Therefore, my answer is Choice Band Salamence. Dragon Claw/Earthquake/Stone Edge/Flamethrower (for downing Skarm/Forretress) Wouldn't you think mixmence is harder to counter because it's not locked onto 1 attack?
For Gyarados, there are mixed feelings. Bulky Gyarados is easier to counter due to lower speed, but it can switch in and even counter things itself. The DD Sweeper is harder to counter, but you can't get it in very well due to less bulk. Hmmm....if I sent out gyarados after a team mate faints, it'd work very well...or I can swicth it into a earthquake...But still....would gyarados be better off as a bulky pokemon?[/quote] Comments in bold. Gah...I'm confused about Gyara....i need a voice of experience.. |
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[email protected] Jolly 220 HP, 18 Atk, 196 Def, 76 Spd Dragon Dance Dragon Claw Roost Earthquake This can absorb Ice Fangs from the likes of Hippowdon and Roost off damage while DD'ing up, allowing you to sweep. A personal favourite of many of the S&M raters currently. ~T_S |
BulkyMence can't wall without a spinner either way, and it NEEDS to attack to guarantee a KO on Luke, which means no recovery either way and LO recoil. Personally I've stopped using it considering that it is inferior to the sweeper sets in my opinion.
I never seen a Blissey switch straight into a Salamence on Shoddy before, most likely they would just switch to a Steel-type first time or they would leave the current pokemon in to scout its moveset. |
i need a wall strategy any pokemon will do i not much of a wall person but i guess i need one
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I have been trying for ages, to make a well balanced team with Tyranitar, Gyarados and Garchomp. I haven't been able to figure the 3 remaining pokemon.
CB Tar, Bulky Dos, and a Scarfchomp. I need the 3 extra ones figured. thanks. |
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Alright; first and foremost, some natures need tweaking. Grumpig should be Calm nature since it's most likely your special wall, but you can check here.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/grumpig There's info on Grumpig. Luckily, Gengar and Arcanine have good natures for their stats. Give Arcanine some physical attacks like Extremespeed, Flare Blitz, Thunder Fang, and a very powerful fire move like Fire Blast or Overheat. Intimidate is generally a better option on Arcanine, but Flash Fire is decent enough if you switch in on a fire attack. Gengar can use something like Hypnosis/Shadow Ball/Focus Blast/Thunderbolt, something along those lines. Rampardos should be scrapped as well. Sassy is one of the worst natures for it. Jolly/Adamant are the only natures you can really use for it. Give us their movesets, and we'll give criticism/fixing of them. |
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Well, you're using a stall team to weaken them slowly with defensive Pokemon, so yes, Bulky Gyarados is the way to go. Make sure you get other Pokemon with Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock in play as well, and a Rapid Spinner to keep the field cleared of such hazards from your side.
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You could also use RestTalk Gyarados. It can sponge hits on either side of the damage spectrum, and status does not affect him.
Gyarados @ Leftovers Adamant 252 HP / 96 Atk / 80 Def / 60 SpD / 20 Spe ~ Waterfall ~ Stone Edge / Dragon Dance ~ Rest ~ Sleep Talk |
Well, I'm not making just one team...
i'm training random useful pokemons to make multiple teams at once... |
Would Dusclops be considered UU this generation with Dusknoir and all? Also, I would like a moveset for Dusclops if it's UU. :D
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It's not. NFE Pokemon are placed in the same tier as their fully evolved counterparts if they are no different than said counterparts. This is to prevent UU from turning into OU lite (o hai, Sneasel and Chansey!)
Prevos that are different from their evos (Scyther, Dragonair, possibly Clamperl) are placed in their own tier. |
I would like to know which set is better for Dusknoir? CM set is out of the question due to low base SpAtk. RestTalk isn't as good as somneone like Snorlax. So should I use CBnoir or Anti-Spinoir? The sets for them are as follows:
Dusknoir @ Choice Band Adamant 252HP/252Attack/6Speed Shadow Sneak/Shadow Punch Thunderpunch Icepunch/Thunderpunch/Pursuit Earthquake My only question is, if I can teach Dusclops the elemental punches on Emerald, migrate it over and breed with my adamant Ditto, if Duskull will learn it? I'm not really sure how else to teach it as breeding on Emerald may take a while. Dusknoir @ Leftovers Thunderpunch Shadow Sneak W-o-W Pain Split No questions here. Once again, the elemental punches are the only true problem. Everything else is learnt through level up so this would be my preferred set. Plus, no choice items here. |
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You can? Awesome! I didn't know that so I was just trying to check up on that. Now, is there a way of getting more than 1 reaper cloth in-game? My friend was training some of my pokemon and I told him to toss away some items but I think he tossed away the Reaper Cloth as well.
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CBDusknoir has weak moves coming off of base 100 Atk. Can you say 'easily walled'? It's bulky as all hell, but really.
The Anti-Spinner set is great, though, if only for Will-o-Wisp. Dusk makes a great mixed wall, especially with the ability to instantly cripple any physical attacker in his way. And no, there's only one Reaper Cloth in the game. You could always get another from PBR, though. Or just trade for another one. |
Yay, you can actually get 2. One in route 229 the other in the Turnback Cave after you catch Giratina. My friend got one for me anyway so even if I don't end up getting it, it won't be too big a problem. Also, with the CB set, I was wondering if maybe changing the CB would do anything? Not Life Orb because Dusknoir has low enough HP but maybe another item. Not sure what. It'll be harder breeding the Careful nature because I have an Adamant Ditto but not a Careful one. Oh well, if you guys say that Anti-Spin set is better, then yeah, that's what I'll use.
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I have been trying for ages, to make a well balanced team with Tyranitar, Gyarados and Garchomp. I haven't been able to figure the 3 remaining pokemon.
CB Tar, Bulky Dos, and a Scarfchomp. I need the 3 extra ones figured. thanks. |
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I'd put walling in the last slots. Definitely a standard special wall and probably something like Swampert + Skarmory to help your walling, since Gyarados is a pretty good fighting resist. Vaporeon or something might be useful for MixApe coverage and for opposing Gyarados, who would smash that particular lineup. |
hey i was looking for a good special wall for my new team. if you could post the ev spread,moveset, nature and item that would be great. i prefer it not be a blissey. thanks
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I'm trying to make a good Gallade moveset and I can't decide between the 3 choices on the last move.
Adamant Nature Item: Leftovers EVs: 228 HP/ 252 Atk/ 30 Spd Psycho Cut Close Combat Night Slash Hypnosis/ Will O Wisp/ Thunder Wave My logic is that Hypnosis stops the opponent all together temporarily and Will O Wisp cuts Attack and does small damage infliction. My pick would have been Thunder Wave since it has a chance of the foe's inability to attack and drops speed but I wanted to get a second recommendation before I decided. Also for the item, I was thinking of having White Herb to recover from Close Combat instead of Leftovers. |
OMG! You get to recover from ONE Close Combat drop!WOW!
No, White Herb is a waste. Now as for your question, that is the near standard Gallade. Look on www.smogon.com for the set. Personally, I'd go for Will-o-Wisp. Personally, Close Combat without more speed makes little sense. |
Hey guys. How is it going :D
I am thinking of making a new team, and since there are new pokemon that are allowed (i think) i would like to give them a try. I was wondering if Someone could suggest some a move set and EV spread, the usual please. I need to go work so it owuld be nice if someone could reply for these. Thank you so much :D If you do my whole team i will sort you out with thing that you need. If i have it :D The pokemon i would like to use is: Speed Deoxys Tyranitar Garchomp NOw i love these three pokemon, so yep. HOwever, i am not sure what to add to this team that would work well, i pretty much have physical sweepers don't I :/ Oh well, but i would love any help. Anywho, off to work. Thank you for your help :D |
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Try smogon, there are alot of sets those pokemon run. As for my query, i have a Scarf Typhlosion i want to use. No experience with it previously what so ever =p [email protected] Scarf 144 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 112 SPEED Mild Nature - Eruption - Lava Plume - Hidden power [Ice/Electric] - Focus Punch What ive got currently,Focus Punch 2hko's Blissey and lax (Also puts dents in flash fire pokes such as Heatran etc), Lava Plume, i thought would be best when its Hp goes down and im mainly using it for its nasty burns rate. suggestions ? |
Thank you Dark :)
Do you want anything? Lol Like TMs? |
You should know, D_A. I'm using a similar one, with less Spe IV's, & moar HP ICE.
I'm iffy on that set, though. It seems so easily walled. |
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Thats why i had Lava Plume, to burn switch ins, but meh, if you can think of better options, do tell lol |
Well, you have the luxury of getting breeding moves. Mines is shiny, so I am stuck on those moves. You have Quick Attack, Covet (srsly, don't see that much), Crush Claw & it's 50% chance of lowering defense, etc.
He just lacks in movepool. A shame. |
Yo again. I thought about doing Rain Dance and Sunny Day teams for OU, because I just wan to try something different from weather teams then Sandstorm and Hail ones in OU. I have one question - which pokes are good enough to be first in both teams. Thx for any ideas and sets. Cheers.
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For Sunny Day, Thick Fat pokemon would be great SD starters, Like Grumpig or snorlax. Heatran & Moltres are near necesseties. Afew Chlorophyll pokes can work out.
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As for Rain Dance teams, something bulky like Bronzong or Ludicolo generally works best to start the rain, then you just need to use something like a Kingdra or any swift swimmer then a couple of pokemon to take the thunderbolts flying every which way.
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Well I'll just tell you my opinions on RD and SD teams. You need bulky Pokemon for them. For a Rain dance team, you could use Gyarados. Sadly, there are no Drizzler's out there other than Kyogre. Then I'd use a Ludicolo. Also as Angelic Diablo said, use a Bronzong for some tanking and starting off the rain. Swampert would probably be a must. As for an SD team, I wonder how Roserade would work. Tropius isn't too good but if used properly I've noticed he doesn't play too bad. Once again, I'm not the best in this area but those are just my opinions.
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You do not need Gyarados on a Rain Dance team. It would not work as well in the Rain as others. What you need is two or more bulky pokemon to set up Rain Dance, then just sweep. Rain Dance in OU is limited to 5/8 turns so you should make the best of it.
It is worth noting that Kingdra and Kabutops are nigh uncounterable in the Rain. Sunny Day teams revolve around the same principle except Sunny Day is not present on a variety of pokemon and the Chlorophyll/Solar Power sweepers are significantly weaker than Rain Dance sweepers. Like what I said about Rain Dance teams - sweep, sweep, sweep. Heatran is going to end your sweep most of the time though =/ |
I just go the 7th badge, and don't really play so I don't really know what breeding, ev training, etc are. I don't know what natures do what, also, tell me wha I should switch to what and such.
Ponyta: Level 35, has big root, don't know what that does. Lonely Nature Fire Blast Return Fire Spin Stomp Floatzel: Level 36 Rash Nature Surf Pursuit Crunch Aqua Jet Staraptor: Level 35 Bold Nature Aerial Ace Fly Close Combat Wing Attack Luxray: Level 36 Hardy Nature Tackle Spark Charge Crunch Haunter: Level 35 Rash Nature Mean Look Sucker Punch Night Shade Shadow Ball Torterra: Level 36 Calm Nature Bite Leech Seed Mega Drain Earthquake |
I'm using this standard Smogon set for a Anti-Spin Dusknoir:
Dusknoir @ Leftovers Careful Pressure EV’s 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD ~ ThunderPunch ~ Fire Punch / Shadow Sneak ~ Will-O-Wisp ~ Pain Split And I'm wondering if a Sassy nature would be okay, because every Careful I breed have the worst ever IV's, and I bred a Sassy one with very high IV's in everything. |
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