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@Chioce Specs Forwarn trait 252 EVs SpA/6 SpD/252 Spe Modest/Timid nature (it can pass the 300 SpA without a nature, but can only pass the 300 Spe with a nature, so I would preffer Timid) ~Ice Beam Or Blizzard if Abomasnow has presence in your team ~Psychic ~Enery Ball/Grass Knot (if Wailord and similars are psting your team, Grass Knot. If Lanturn, Enery Ball) ~Focus Blast/Shadow Ball (Focus Blast add very vital coverage against Steel, and also removes Rocks and other Ice-types, but pffers awful accuracy; Shadow Ball is for Ghosts and other Psychics, but makes you stuck against most Steels) |
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Regirock @ Leftovers Careful 252 HP/252 SpD/6 Att Rest Sleep Talk Stone Edge/EQ Hammer Arm/Ice Punch |
thanx i needed that really helpfull
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oh,hi.can somebody tell me a good move set for luxray.can u not include egg moves as my luxray is lvl100
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Hmm... I was randomly breeding Togepi's and I got these IV's
22 hp 31 Att 27 Def 16-19 Sp.ATT 10-11 Sp.Def 10 Spd I didn't mean to breed for IV's but i think they're pretty good altho the att/def are pointless since a Togekiss should be used for a sp.att sweeper or sp.def wall (i think) Now the moveset i'm using is this (off Smogen) Togekiss 252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe Nasty Plot Roost Air Slash AuraSphere I could use that ryt? |
would chare beam be a good choice for luxray
oh yeh good stats for a lvl1 togepi |
Rebreed. You'll thank yourself after that.
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but i dont want to.please help
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but do u no a good move set without breeding
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Final: Wondering if your going to use that Luxray for something?
Destiny: You might want to breed for the right Iv's. My brother started his pearl over and I stole his starter lucky his game is glitched so it doesn't save any trades or save at all. I'm already done Ev training just wondering on a good moveset.I know I could have bred BK on it,but I wanted it cause its Female. Lonely 252 Atk/230 Spd/23 Sp. atk/5 Hp CC SD |
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Never used a togekiss before, but i've been reading about it and i wanna make it a sweeper =S
with the min 16 Sp IV, i'll be in the middle if IV's range from 0-31. I might use it for the moment. and Rebreed in the future. But is the EV spread and moveset ryt? |
is any 1 goin to help me cus if ya do ill make it worth your while
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Modest 252 HP/152 SpA/106 Spe Air Slash Aura Sphere Nasty Plot Roost/Thunder Wave Use Roost over T-Wave honestly. Unless you have qualms with it. |
If you wanna get into competitive battling, then you might as well learn to breed now. It's a major part of the whole thing, and if you don't do it then you'll be at a major disadvantage over your adversaries.
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im sorry but ive had my luxray since the start of the game.can u just tell me a good moveset for him
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for the last time NO.anyway i dont hav wifi so competetive battlin is out the window.just tell me a few good movesets.pwitty pwease
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Wait...So this is for ingame? Dude, just keep using the moves he gets as he levels up. Anything owns ingame.
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I no but i just want him to no cool moves just help please.i saidit wood be worth ur while
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If you dont really like breeding you could use this moveset:
Adamant Crunch Thunder fang Roar Return This is the moveset i used for ingame..... |
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So what if it's ingame? Luxray must have Ice Fang. The usefulness of an Ice-type move on an Electric-type is enought to make the two other moves fillers. So, Luxray: Breed for 31 or close IVs in attack and speed @Choice Band Jolly nature (breed with a female Jolly Shinx holding an Everstone, that will give the baby a 50% chance to be Jolly as well) Intimidate trait 6 EVs HP/252 Atk/252 Spe ~Thunder Fang/Spark ~Ice Fang ~Crunch ~Fire Fang (Iron Tail loses to Magnezone, while using it insted of Crunch will make you lose to Lanturn and it's X1/4 Steel resistance) |
Keep in mind that charge beam is a special move. So an adamant nature wont be good.
use this moveset then: Rash/naive Charge beam Hiper Beam roar crunch/ice fang |
hey thanx i was thinkin about iron tail but remember,i aint breedin my luxray
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Keep in mind that charge beam is a special move. So an adamant nature wont be good.
use this moveset then: Rash/naive Charge beam Hiper Beam roar crunch |
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wait,why do people find roar such a great move.where do i get the tm thunder wave on pearl
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...Wha? Honestly, there is no real challenge ingame, except for maybe the Battle Tower.
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i no i no but i just wanna smash my freind even more
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By the same manner I bred Meditate with Kadabra for Psycho Cut. for all of the advance preiod, it made me mad Medicham had no physical Psychic STAB, what made me so glad to see it can learn a new physical Psychic-type move. From that moment, Weezing would never dare get close to Medicham agian. Fighting/Psychic is actually a good combination agianst other Fighting-types, as it not only resusts Fighting, but also Rock. Just remember Spiritomb and Sableye are immune to both STAB attacks... |
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Miltank does not get a Flash Fire boost, and Spiritomb could easily just...Uh, you know, ATTACK Miltank while Focus Punching. I don't know where the hell that came from.
Any unSTAB'd Psychic is very lol. There's a chance it won't even OHKO Heracross, since he DOES have a respectable 95 Base SpD. Things like Alakazam cannot come in on anything bar Close Combat, and even that does a hefty chunk taking Alakazam's piss-poor defenses. |
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Why lol? I use it on my Ghosts. |
Hm... if i use my roost tm on togekiss... that'll mean i won't have any in the future...
is there a way to aquire another one? |
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You can use a kangaskhan subpuncher instead of miltank.
[email protected] leftovers -Skrappy -adamant Substitute focus punch sucker punch Return |
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Choice Band -Pursuit -Brick Break -Ice Shard/Ice Punch -Night Slash Of course Night Slash is preferable with the strongest STAB Dark move, but what if I changed it to: Choice Band -Pursuit -Brick Break -Ice Shard -Ice Punch and got rid of night slash? |
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-Pursuit -Brick Break -Ice Shard /-Ice Punch -Night Slash Pretty much what you want, its up to you which move you choose Punch or shard that would benefit your team more. Although i have preference for Shard as it bypasses speed boosts on Yanmega, and Ninjask and lets you revenge dragon dancers (aka nite and mence). |
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How about this moveset? Pursuit Ice punch/ice shard Brick break Night slash/aerial ace and for evs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed |
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Um does this work at all as a good team? edit all you want or add and remove some I would really appreciate any assistance! Azelf moves stealth rock/taunt/psychic/explosion Ev 4 atk/252 sp atk/252 speed nature naive item ? Sceptile moves endure/endeavor/quick atk/leaf storm Ev 4 def/252 sp atk/252 speed nature modest item ? hippowdon moves ice fang/earthquake/stealth rock/slack off Ev 252 HP/16 Atk/152 Def/88 speed nature impish item leftovers Weavile Moves ice punch/pursuit/brick break/night slash Ev 40 hp/252 atk/216 speed nature jolly item expert belt Blissy moves seismoc toss/ice beam/Aromatherapy/softboiled Ev 252 hp/252 def/4 sp def nature bold item leftovers Garchomp moves /swords dance/fire fang/dragon claw/earthquake Ev 4 hp/252 atk/252 speed nature jolly item life orb (maybe yache berry?) I was thinking of changing garchomp to salamence, but I'll like to get any advice on this including the rest of my team from anyone^_^ |
This is the porygon-Z i use, but im not too sure on how its going. could i get any improvements?
Porygon Z @ Life Orb Download Modest 252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 4 Sp Def -Tri Attack -Ice Beam -Thunderbolt -Dark Pulse |
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~With 31 HP IVs, can I just use no HP EVs and pass those to defense? ~Hypnosis, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball and... ~Is a good abuse of Unburden a good idea? |
The one I found most useful is:
Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf Modest Nature EVs: 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 HP Trait: Adaptability - Tri-Attack - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Dark Pulse I used this a while back, it may not be as effective in today's game. |
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I find Mismagius to ONLY be useful in late game. Otherwise, phazers or physical attacks will ruin your fun. Bring it in on Blissey, because she will never break your Sub after a CM (or prior to that really) Seismic Toss won't work. She basically becomes set up fodder. |
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Both punch and Shard are incredibly viable which is why I'm having such a hard time deciding. Shard destroys DD Mence and Nite, will still do about 25% to a Gyarados that has picked up DD, and it OHKOs scarfchomp. It also receives the bonus of being the only priority move on my team. Punch however is Weaviles strongest STAB move (Barring Dark Pulse) and OHKOs a Yachechomp. |
Go for Shard. Those pros you gave for Shard just outweights the pros you gave for punch.
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Alright, I'm making a theme Sunny Day team, and I don't want to reveal it until the last day of my summer vacation. However, I want it to be good. The current lineup is this:
Moltres @ Heat Rock Modest 216 HP/252 Spe/42 SpA Fire Blast Sunny Day Toxic Roost Heatran @ Choice Specs Modest 42 HP/252 SpA/216 Spe Fire Blast Dragon Pulse Earth Power Explosion Exeggutor @ Leftovers Modest 114 HP/216 Spe/180 SpA Wish Sunny Day Grass Knot Sleep Powder Cresselia @ Leftovers Bold 252 HP/108 Def/150 SpD Moonlight Charge Beam Ice Beam Thunder Wave Garchomp @ Choice Scarf Adamant 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP Outrage Dragon Claw Earthquake Fire Blast Shaymin @ Leftovers Modest 216 HP/42 Def/252 SpA Seed Flare Rest HP Fire Aromatherapy Is there any way to fix Typhlosion here? The only three I really want to keep is Garchomp, Heatran, and Moltres. That's it. |
hey would the best moveset for empoleon be
ice beam surf/hydro pump drillpeck/aerial ace(preferably drill peck) flashcannon i thought that that was quite a good 1 |
No, that's a bad moveset; defensively or offensively.
Empoleon @ Petaya Berry Modest 28 HP/12 Def/252 SpA/216 Spe Hydro Pump Substitute Ice Beam Agility |
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you already have night slash so i think pursuit isnt very important, you need some good prediction to know if the pokemon will switch out. Aerial ace would be good for fighting types in general, but brick break is more usefull, for rock and steel types, and for OHKO blissey The moveset would be the following one: Ice punch Ice shard brick break Night slash What do you think? |
Do you know what Pursuit does? It lets Weavile catch foes trying to switch out. That's what makes Weavile even remotely usable (aside from Ice Shard)
Weavile @ Choice Band Jolly 42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe Ice Shard Pursuit Brick Break Night Slash/Ice Punch Please. |
definatly teach weavile aerial ace to deal with fighting types and givit choice band and teach it U-turn
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oh sorry.i looked at a random website and it told me that.woohoo i beat the tower tycoon todaywith
Electivire...................... Magmortar .......and ..........lapras thunder punch............. flame thrower ......................surf ice punch.................... focus blast ..................hydro pump earth quake............. pysychic.......................... ice beam crosschop ................solarbeam....................... thunder pretty impressive hey |
For an adamant honchcrow what moveset do you suggest?
So far i have this one Night slash Drill Peck Steel Wing ?? Maybe Sucker punch would be good... but i dont know |
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maybe ummmm put roost or shadow ball in the moveset that u made.
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Oh yeah i forgot its better if the foe swtiches out. So deffinitly pursuit is a must be.
And for the mixed set of hunchcrow which nature and EVs would you use? |
what are IVs and EVs anyway
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Ask it here and maybe you will have an answer http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=136949&page=64&highlight=diamond+pearl |
read up on the guides then u'll get an idea
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Now about your Sunny Day team, I know you said that Garchomp is one of the guys you wanted to keep but I'd get rid of him if I were you. I mean I love the shark and stuff but it seems like it benefits the least from Sunlight. Maybe Cresselia but with Sunny Day, Cresselia finally has a real reliable recovery move. Also, I'd make Exeggutor a little more offensive because with those great Offensive Stats, and great speed boost from chlorrophyl, I'd give Shymin Sunny Day and give Exeggutor this moveset: Exeggutor @ Choice Specs or Life Orb -Leaf Storm/Solar Beam -Psychic -Hypnosis/Sunny Day -Explosion |
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Gardevoir @ Leftovers -Wish -Will-O-Wisp -Psychic -Thunderbolt T-Bolt still gives you Gyarados Coverage but you also get another support pokemon and that speed and Sp. atk are nothing to gawk at. |
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I made a Smeargle boy to go make: Hippowdon Adamant ~Stockpile ~Slack Off ~Earthquake ~Ice Fang What nature should I be looking for, attack filler, item to maximize this? Should I edit the way it is to something else? I was looking at that "CurseTank" as a base for the idea... NOTE: I already have the CurseTank, as well... |
is tis a good offensive moveset for dragonite
dragon rush/claw auqa tail stone edge and thunder wave |
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oh well the tower tycoons dragonite nos dragon rush auqa tail and stone edge.but why dos his rhyperior no flame thrower,thunder bolt,ice beam and rock wrecker.i no they r good moves and cover his weaknesses but is this one better
hammer arm(to kill steel types) mega horn/poison Jab(to kill grass types) thunder bolt(to kll water types) and stone edge/rockwrecker/rock blast(to kill starapter,rapidash and a really good parasect because he isn't weak to megahorn and is stronger than poison jab) is this offensive moveset Rubbish OK(it will work for a bit) Good or brill |
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but was my rhyperior moveset any good for competetive battling.can someone please suggest a good offensive moveste for torrtera(dont say super power cus u hav to breed him with totodile,croconaw or feraligator and i dont hav a gba link cable)
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Earthquake Stone Edge Megahorn/Avalanche Stealth Rock/Roar/Sub Nobody would ever suggest superpower on torterra, it's a terrible move for him. Anyway, standard torterra runs: Wood Hammer Earthquake/Stone Edge Leech Seed Stealth Rock |
why roar with any pokemon and anyway on my game sub is cheating.
i thought torrtera should no woodhammer/seed bomb stone edge earthquake ???????? can some giv me a good idea for the last move(not roar not stealth rock not sub |
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Why on earth should substitute be banned? You can use Seed Bomb if you dont like the idea of recoil, but Wood Hammer is a far superior option. Leech seed is vital so that torterra can tank properly. Crunch should be your last slot if you're not willing o use a support move, and Choice band would be the item. |
thanx allot i hate sub and roar i think ill try leech seed
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If you want a defensive hippowdon you should go with a phisical wall. -Impish -Leftovers Earthquake Ice fang Slack off Stealth rock/roar and this evs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 152 Def / 88 Sp.Def The HP + Defense EVs allow Hippowdon to survive both an Adamant Garchomp's Swords Dance Outrage and an Adamant Lucario's Life Orb Swords Dance Close Combat. Otherwise cursetank is a good option for an attacking moveset. |
Um, any Rhyperior with a Special Attack sucks. It doesn't matter if you're ingame or competatively, it sucsk and the trainer who uses it fails at making movesets.
I like CB Rhyperior (in Trick Room) The thing is a beast: Rhyperior @ Choice Band Adamant Solid Rock 252 HP/252 Att/6 Def Stone Edge Earthquake Megahorn Avalanche/Ice Fang (Ice Fang in Trick Room) People really don't know how to use Rhyperior. They think with a SS boost, he'll be taking SpA's easily, which he won't. Solid Rock is awesome, but it'll never let him live Max Att CB Meteor Mash from Metagross (a hard feat to do, which should be noted) Rhyperior truly needs Trick Room to be effective. It gets 2HKO'd by Pinsir Close Combat (with Mold Breaker) which says something. |
What's a good team for the Battle Tower?
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Azelf/timid
Flamethrower T-Bolt psychic nasty plot Infernape/adamant Earthquake Flare bitz Mach punch Close combat Floatzel/jolly Aqua jet Ice fang Waterfall Crunch It really worked for me, you need some good variety of moves and you will be just fine. It is a good team for the tycoon too. Floatzel is for countering rhyperion, dragonite and cresselia Infernape for heatran and regigigas Azelf for milotic, With your superior speed you will kill him before it uses hipnosis. |
Ok, so I got bored & joined Shoddy, I want to try an all bug team, this is what I've got so far;
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon012.png @ Expert Belt Compoundeyes Modest 252SAtk / 252Spd / 4HP - Bug Buzz - Poisonpowder - Stun Spore - Sleep Powder Spoiler:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon314.png @ Leftovers Tinted Lens Modest 252SAtk / 252Spd / 4HP - Bug Buzz - Wish - Thunderwave - Charge Beam Spoiler:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon205.png @ Leftovers Sturdy Brave 252Atk / 252HP / 4Def - Payback - Spikes - Rapid Spin - Gyro Ball Spoiler:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon212.png @ Expert Belt Technician Adament 252Atk / 252Spd / 4HP - X-Scissor - Sword Dance - Iron Head - Night Slash Spoiler:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon213.png @ Expert Belt Sturdy Lax 252HP / 252Def / 4SDef - Sludge Bomb - Rest - Sleep Talk - Stealth Rock / Toxic Spoiler:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon291.png @ Leftovers Speed Boost Jolly 252Atk / 252Spd / 4HP - X-Scissor - Baton Pass - Agility - Sword Dance Spoiler:
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Softboiled Seismic Toss Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave Ice Beam This thing is an absolute beast in the Battle Tower. I'm really not sure how it works so well, but I got really far with it just leading my team because Computers for some reason have no idea how to deal with it. Even special attackers has trouble with it. Weezing @ Leftovers Flamethrower/ThunderBolt/Will-O-Wisp Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Will-O-Wisp Pain Split Haze Say what you want about Weezing but why it went to UU I don't understand. However, thw tower and competitive battling are 2 completely different things and the way I see it, Weezing is key. Of course the main attraction of this set is haze and the main reason for that is in the tower, many computers effectively use Minimize and especially Double Team. Now those moves are banned in competitive battling but is rampant in the tower and when the right Pokemon uses it becomes really annoying; in particular Blissey, Dusknoir, Shuckle and Forretress. Weezing is the best because all those pokemon tend to use Toxic as a DD/toxic combo so Weezing is free to switch in. Also, you need an effective Sweeper. In the tower, the best sweepers are Garchomp, Lucario, Gengar, Alakazam, Porygon-Z or Metagross. Remember computers don't ev train so even in the hardest difficulties, a maxed out P-Z or Lucario will outrun 95% of all Pokemon. @ Maria (yes I know Russian) How can you make an all bug team and no include Heracross? Your entire team get obliterated by any rock attack, doesn't have much attacking potential and dies at the arms of Stealth rock. If you're going to make an all bug team, try to include Scizor, Heracross, Forretress and maybe Yanmega. |
Ok, but it's Bulgarian, not russian just so you know... & I want to get rid of Masquerain & Volbeat, I just might now, thanks
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Unsure of where to properly place this, but here goes...
I want a MEDICHAM... I want a RHYPERIOR... Having been levelled up to only the point of evolution, I was wondering if these will be terrible, in future. Also would like some possible moveset filler, different from the typical sources please if possible. Medicham currently is: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Speed, remainder in defense; has Effort Ribbon Male @ Adamant = Hp-phys-Spec-speed = 99 HP, 91 Atk, 69 Def, 52 SA, 67 SD, 97 Speed ~Baton Pass (I want to keep it for a breeding base; a battle alternate possible?) ~Psycho Cut (keep it, please, should be obvious) ~Fake Out (i want to kill this slot for something else; ThunderPunch?) ~Ice Punch (H. Scaled) **As there is another place for Breeding help, I will not post the source here** Rhydon (No Protector! Yay! I have not toured map for full abuse of navigation yet, *sad LOL*): Impish (42) @ Male: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Def, remainder in HP 151 / 150 / 158 / 40 / 54 / 48 v~Current moveset~v ~Dragon Rush ~Ice Fang ~Fire Fang ~Earthquake (this was a pain to Egg with the others...) I figure the STAB of a Stone Edge should fit into there. Maybe a Swords Dance. Should I reboot the species with different movesets? |
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I'll probably stuff SE and Megahorn the Ice Fang/DRush goodbye. Use R-hype for story moding. More aiming for a possible slot for it in Battle Tower, maybe Trick Room, for R-hype anyhoo. ~Medicham: Having the Baton Pass on Medicham = looks good on paper I assume, as Smoggy lacks ~Medicham: Ability is cool, Magikarp pants are not. I would rather slot a Delibird with Rapid Spin over Medicham. They both get the same result, I assume. "Stealth Rock!!! Oh noez! Medicham, return! Go, Delibird! Rapid... awww...." What about: Mist + Baton Pass = on Smeargle? Or does some other/better do this better, if Mist-Passing is even a good thing... |
Delibird is the WORST spinner around, send him in to take care of the Stealth Rock problem and his health drops in half just from switching in.
And Rhyperior can work effectively, I don't know why so many people bad mouth it (Yeah it has some problems, but what doesn't) [email protected] Band/Leftovers/Life Orb Adament Nature EVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def -Earthquake -Stone Edge -Avalanche/Focus Punch/Hammer Arm -Megahorn My personal favourite set, Brave Nature can be considered for a quicker Rhyperior in Trick Room, and as such Hammer Arm becomes quite effective, however with Trick Room only lasting 5 turns you probably wont see that much use. Anyway Focus Punch things on the switch hurts. Especially with the Choice Band attached |
I know. Delibird sits in my PC with Defog, Splash, Present, Rapid Spin.
Yes, I really do have that set. Better to Defog "Santa penguins" than Zubat IMO. On the up side, she collects dust slower than my Claydol... ----------- I'm terrible at Focus prediction. And I hate Hammer Arm. I liek Longkips and Ice Fang. Avalanche is on my "Phailord", one of my MANY Smeargle, and Rampardos... |
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the tower tycoons no's T-bolt F-thrower and I-beam and its reall strong
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thanx.i think my moveset would win quite alot
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