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That Bronzong works as a mixed wall, slightly more to the Special side. But what you should do is abuse its resistances from either sides.
As for the others; Blissey @ Leftovers 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD Natural Cure Calm - Wish - Protect / Softboiled - Flamethrower / Ice Beam - Toxic This is the standard WishBliss. Great for team support. Flamethrower hits the Steels that Toxic doesn't, but Ice Beam stops Salamence and Dugtrio from ruining your fun. Protect vs Softboiled is if you prefer immediate healing over 2-turns healing, but Protect does help you scout for the opponent's moves. Arcanine @ Life Orb 228 Atk / 92 SpA / 188 Spe Flash Fire Naïve - Flare Blitz - Overheat - ExtremeSpeed / Dragon Pulse - Hidden Power [Electric] / Hidden Power [Ground] I don't like Arcanine, but this set is supposedely his best. Hits from both sides of the spectrum hard enough. Just hit the walls on their weaker stat. The Hidden Power type is your choice- you chose wether you'll be walled by Heatran or Gyarados. Meganium @ Leftovers 216 HP / 148 Def / 144 SpA Bold - Energy Ball - Aromatherapy - Light Screen / Reflect - Leech Seed / Synthesis You need guts to use this on OU. That's all I'm going to tell you. It may work with some smart play, but you usually have better options. |
Think you can help me out?
I made this thread in the regular thread for Platnium, Diamon, and Pearl but i didnt it was in the wrong area
Anyways, I'm trying to think of a good team to have when Platinum comes out, I'm trying to thinking of what types I should have and what Nature I already thought of 3 Pokemon: Infernape Carnivine Lucario Can anyone help me thinking of the other 3 Pokemon and natures and EVs as well? |
That Arcanine set didn't really look good, but the Blissey one I'm definitely taken. How about..Blaziken/Dragonite/Kingdra? And thanks btw.
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I was wondering, I was thinking about putting Toxic on my Bulkydos. I'm not sure which move I
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I want a defensive EV spread for Tyranitar (Rest-Talk, Curse, etc...)
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Getting rid of Waterfall is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Waterfall is NEEDED for Gyarados; it's his main STAB.
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what should i take off my raichu? and replace it with what
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Okay, Raichu doesn't need three freaking electric attacks. Keep one, and use HP Grass/Ice and some other move in the last slot.
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I replaced raichu's discharge with iron tail
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Iron Tail is horrible. Use HP Ice, and Grass Knot. Over either Volt Tackle or Tbolt, use Focus Punch or Blast.
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Ok so is this good for miltank
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ice beam.......................outrage........................firepunch/flareblitz/Blazekick surf/hydro pump..............fire punch....................bravebird/stone edge rain dance.......................dragon dance...............dragonclaw HP electric......................earthquake...................Brick break/skyuppercut the blaziken set is just the 1 i like,so dont start yellin at me saying that im dumb and im wrong sorry for double posting |
Don't give sets you like unless they work competitively.
And did you see Miltank's Speed? Even after Curse, it's speedy. Gyro Ball is a wasted effort, especially since it has pissy coverage. |
Do I see Dragon Claw on that Blaziken?
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yes you do.i think its a good move for him
know one here can say that my dragonit or kingdra set is bad because!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!you people told me it,,HEHEHEHE so ur sayin that milky is fast,sweet.whats a good set for milky |
This is the set I use, which has been proven effective.
[email protected] Nature:Adamant Ability:Thick Fat EV:252 Atk, 128 Sp.Def, 128 HP Milk Drink Earthquake Return Ice Punch That's a deviation of the usual set, which runs defensive: [email protected] Nature:Impish Heal Bell Milk Drink Stealth Rock Body Slam EV:252 HP, 224 Def, 32 Spe Second, you will soon get a warning for constant spam at this rate, so yeah, be careful. Dragon Claw is a sucky move. |
OH sorry,but how does milky learn icepunch
Is mamoswine Good for the BT |
I don't do Battle Tower, sorry.
But Ice Punch is from Advance. |
OK,uummm.i need a 3rd addition to my BT team
ive got dragonite.......starmie f-punch............surf outrage.............t-bolt dragon dance.....icebeam earthquake.........psychic |
The only problem is Blaziken doesn't learn Dragon Claw.
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oh,oh i saw someone and he had blaziken and it killed salamence with it.shadow claw then,hey apostle can you help me in my search for my 3rd BT pokemon
is drapion OK for it,if so what moves |
That Blakizen is obviously hacked.
I used Weezing / Xatu / Feraligatr in the battle tower. Weezing Haze'd stupid Double Team abusers and spread status, Xatu was a lame Spec'd version, and Feraligatr was a DDer. |
You could use CB Metagross,since Star/Gross/Nite cover each others weaks.
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OK thanx but is this good for drapion
ice fang crosspoison crunch/night slash brickbreak |
I used Torterra, Raichu, & Gyarados. Bulkydos was thick enough to take on the early match, hell, it can take on all pokes on her own, usually. Taunt took care of Double Team, while Raichu& Torterra beaten everyone else.
I can never get a winning streak, however, cause I'm BOUND to get crit'd on. |
you no that you said that i should teach metagross explosion.well i used my TM explosion and the gaming women only gives you it once,what should i replace it with.how about giga impact
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Im thinking of a Spinning and Spiking Forretress
Forretress @ Lefties Impish -Rapid Spin -Spikes -Earthquake -Explosion What i realy need is an IV spread. And maybe some corrections |
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Maybe you can go with sleep talk cresselia... Rest Sleep Talk ICe beam Charge beam/psychic/Thunder Wave. Also you can make a calm minder, but i dont know if bold is a good nature for that. |
Still need a good EV spread & Movesets for the following pokemon:
Snorlax Blaziken Kingdra Dragonite Gardevoir Slowking Scizor. Sorry there's so many. I'll rep ya. o_o Thank youuu. :) |
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Im requesting a strong team for Platinum Like above I already chose Infernape,Carnivine, and Lucario but i need help with Evs and Natures and the 3 other Pokemon |
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I come here in need of some help, due to my moveset troubles.
I have Deoxys, Metagross & Gliscor on my team. (If it's necessary I could tell the other three) I've not only heard it's an effective combination, but I wonder what sets to run. Perhaps a suicide lead killer Metagross? With Lum Berry; Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash, Earthquake & SR/Explosion. And with him at lead, make a cookie cutter Deoxys Revenge Killer, and Gliscor... well, frankly I don't know what to think of Gliscor here. Or another possibility I've been thinking. Lead with Deoxys, have Gliscor be a baton passer to the team, Metagross being one of the recipients. Basically which movesets would be the most effective solution for this combonation, and what would they be? |
@Mochan
Snorlax @ Leftovers Careful Thick Fat EVs 252 HP/252 Spdef/4 Atk Rest Sleep Talk Body Slam Earthquake/Fire Blast status absorber, sp tanker and paralaysis inducer Blaziken @ Salac Berry Naive Blaze EVs 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP Substitute Overheat Reversal Stone Edge Salac Berry gives +1 speed to cover his slow speed and Overheat deals very high damage to phys wall. weak to sandstorm >_> Kingdra @ Scope Lens/Life Orb Naughty Sniper EVs 166 Atk/252 Spe/80 Spatk Dragon Dance Waterfall Draco Meteor Return standard DDMixdra Dragonite @ Yache Berry Jolly Inner Focus EVs 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP Dragon Dance Fire Blast Outrage Earthquake looks like garchomp >_> Scizor @ Life Orb Adamant Swarm EVs 252 Atk/148 Speed/108 HP Agility Metal Claw X-Scissor Brick Break Scizor's speed is very slow set agi up then sweep @Keyaki Infernape @ Life Orb Naive Blaze EVs 24 Atk/252 Spatk/232 Spe Nasty Plot Close Combat Flamethrower Grass Know IMO, NPMixape is the best infernape moveset Lucario @ Life Orb Adamant Inner Focus EVs 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP Swords Dance Extremespeed Stone Edge Close Combat Standard SDLuke @マツバ Deoxys-S @ Life Orb Hasty Pressure EVs 160 Atk/252 SpA/96 Spe Superpower Psychic Ice Beam Thunderbolt good late game sweeper, Superpower for blissey, BoltBeam offers good type coverage and Psychic is for STAB Metagross @ Lum Berry Adamant Clear Body EVs 252 Atk/104 Spe/152 HP Stealth Rock Bullet Punch Thunderpunch Earthquake Standard Leadgross Gliscor @ Leftovers Jolly Hyper Cutter EVs 252 HP/252 Spe/4 Atk Rock Polish/Swords Dance Baton Pass Earthquake Taunt Taunt prevents phazer eliminates your stat boost |
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meteor mash earthquake bullet punch and anouther move to replace explosion,i need help |
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ill try it.how do you gaet metagross to no thunderpunch.is it true that you can only get 1 TMexplosion
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You can get Thunderpunch on Metagross through the Emerald version Move Tutor. And yes, ingame it's only possible to get one TM for Explosion. That doesn't stop you from trading for more on Wi-Fi, though. |
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im not sure what to replace explosion with |
One: using shortened versions of words like "soz" is annoying and will possibly turn people off from helping you.
Explosion works well on CBGross. There are many variants of Metagross, so pick what best fits your team. |
OK sorry
woohoo i just realised that theres a explosion tutor in emerald so im gonna give him bullet punch meteormash earthquake explosion could i just switch ,metormash for thunder punch,i no it sounds dumb but i already have bulletpunch an meteor mash has about 80accuracy.remember this is for the BT |
Why deprive Metagross of his ridiculously powerful STAB? If you're gonna replace something, replace Bullet Punch.
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I need a moveset and EV spread of a Gardevoir. I already have 252 on SP.ATT. Rest please? :O
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I'm in the mood to use a weird set for any Pokemon. Is this suitable:
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/130.png Gyarados @ Choice Specs Modest 72 HP/252 SpA/186 Spe Hydro Pump Blizzard Thunder Earthquake/Fire Blast I'll do some damage calcs; mainly a gimmick set, but meh. Calculations Hydro Pump... vs 252 HP/252 SpD Regirock (No SS): 78.02%-92.31% vs. 252 HP/252 SpD Regirock (In SS): 51.65%-61.54% Thunder... vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Skarmory: 105.39%-124.55% vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Milotic: 54.82%-64.97% vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Vaporeon: 59.05%-69.83% vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Starmie: 93.21%-109.88% Blizzard... vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Celebi: 64.85%-76.73% vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Zapdos: 75.00%-88.54% vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Tangrowth: 112.38%-132.67% More to come... |
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I need opinions on this Jynx moveset;
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffa/dpffa124.png @ Leftovers Oblivious Mild 252SAtk / 252Spd / 4HP - Psychic - Lovely Kiss - Ice Beam - Mean Look By the way, this is for 3rd gen; |
jynx is to frail to use meanlook effectivly
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Luna Jynx is the way to go:
Jynx @ Leftovers Nature: Timid Ability: Oblivious 252 Speed / 252 SAtk / 6 HP Ice Beam Lovely Kiss Calm Mind Substitute Kiss the counter. Substitute on the switch / turn of sleep. Calm Mind up and massacre with Ice Beam. |
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Need help with team.
Tyranitar: Gentle hp 339 315 atk 223 def 201 spec atk 273 spec def 157 speed Sandstorm, Dark Pulse, Earthquake, Stone Edge Quick Claw Rhyperior: Relaxed Atk 329 defence 310 sp atk 146 sp def 148 Speed 95 hp 381 Stone Edge, Hammer Arm, Flamethrower, Shadow claw dragonite: docile Atk 304 def 196 sp atk 213 ap def 212 speed 192 hp 304 outrage, flamethrower, ice beam, thunder Blissy: naughty atk 29 defence 39 sp atk 179 sp def 262 speed 132 hp 625 stealth rock, protect, toxic, facade houndoom: naughty atk 257 def 116 so atk 280 so def 175 speed 207 hp 299 overheat, flamethrower, sludge bomb, crunch Probopass: adamant atk 176 defence 346 sp atk 144 sp def 336 speed 99 hp 265 stone edge, thunderbolt, earthquake, toxic |
Mean Look is usually only good for the Perish Trapping set. Jynx is my favorite Pokemon and I can assure you the Luna set I posted is the most effective (well, most of the time) set available.
Substitute will protect you from status and other threats. It may be walled by Tyranitar and Blissey, but just pair Jynx with a Dugtrio to take them out. |
ok my metang is gonna migrate soon.thanx for the help peeps
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Could anyone give me a good set for a Gallade?
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That'll work. Thanks, but where can I get Ice Punch? |
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Recently, I've been running a new Dragonite set. It's pretty killer, and it's something no other dragon can attempt.
[email protected] Impish 248HP/192spd/36def/32sp.def Substitute Roost Focus Punch Dragon Claw Sub-Roost Nite and pretty dang defensive. Fighting/Dragon gives unmatched coverage. The speed hits 244. Defenses are pretty even, each boasting 240+ with a great 385 HP. Normally Substitute Dragonite uses Focus Punch/Dragon Claw/Sub/Fire move with a lot of attack and HP only. This set utilizes a decent bit of speed (you can drop down some in favor of more bulk), Dragonite's already great 304 attack with a neutral nature, and allows Dragonite to take a lot of hits. Opinions? |
Need EV spreads for Charizard, Venasaur, Blastoise. (Movesets if possible too please)
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Charizard @ Salac Berry
Jolly | Blaze [ 252 Atk, 4 Def, 252 Spd ] ~ Substitute ~ Belly Drum ~ Fire Punch ~ Earthquake |
Hm, I made my Charizard a SP.Att sweeper, and it already has 252 in SP.Att. Do 252 att, or what?
And still need Blastoise and Venasaur. |
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Bold 252HP/252Def/6SpAtt Rapid Spin Surf Toxic/Yawn Ice Beam/Rest Utility Blastoise ftw [email protected] Calm 252HP/252SpDef/6SpAtt Leech Seed Sleep Powder Energy Ball/Grass Knot Sludge Bomb |
Fine. Use LOZard or SpecsZard. I am too tired to type them out...It's late.
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Rate this Ape =)
NP Subape @ Petaya Berry Timid EVs 252 Spatk/252 Spe/4 HP -Nasty Plot -Substitute -Fire Blast -Focus Blast |
hey my metagross is awsome.if any new comers need a good battle tower team ask me for it
Feraligatr,ice fang,auqa tail/waterfall,crunch,earthquake typhlosion,flareblitz,earthquake meganium,solarbeam,sunnyday,synthesis,HP fire |
Eh, too easily walled. Also, Focus Blast has bad acc. for a main attack.
If you are subbing, then you could always run a Subpunch set. |
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flareblitz closecombat/machpunch/brickbreak u-turn/shadowclaw thunderpunch |
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+4 Fire Blast to Gyara (no Spd/236 Spd)
257 ~ 297 (2HKO) +4 Fire Blast to Starmie (no Spd/206 Spd) 289 ~ 339 (OHKO) +3 Focus Blast to Suicune (no Spd/266 Spd) 373 ~ 479 (OHKO) +3 Focus Blast to Suicune (no Spd, +1 Spd/399 Spd) 250~294 (2HKO) deals huge amount of damage but lack of accuracy and pp oTL |
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can u rate it please go. metagross |
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The set you posted is very similar to standard CBApe, but with some pointless alternatives offered. Mach Punch is too weak and Ape is fast already, and brick break has almost 0 advantage over CC. Shadow Claw offers almost nothing over U-Turn, which is far more beneficial. |
+4 is from Blaze, Petaya and Nasty Plot
Stealth Rock lets the Ape set-up faster. edit : I forgot that common sandstorm could kill subpinch-er >_> |
is this good for medicalcham
physical................................................................special psycho cut.............................................................shadowball drainpunch/forcepalm/reversal/brickbreak.................focusblast shadowball............................................................shadowball thunderpunch.......................................................energyball/calmmind |
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Right, I'm requesting help on two Rhyperior sets.
First is on the Adamant shiny Rhydon that I caught. What EVs and moves should I give it? Secondly, I want to EV Train a Rhyperior from level 1 (obviously a Rhyhorn at that point). However, I'm not sure whether to give it a defensive or offensive set (or a bit of both), which nature to breed for and what moves to give it. Much appreciated. |
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Seriously, I alone have told you once already today. We cannot improve your sets properly without all the information. First off, medicham can never be a special sweeper. Without Specs it's too weak and without Scarf it's too slow. Huge power is the only thing keeping it out of NU. Drain Punch and Force Palm are far too weak, and reversal just sucks- Brick Break or High Jump Kick please. Shadow Ball is a special attack, and as such should not be used. Ice punch in it's place. |
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oh hi.im sorry icant giv you EVs or natures but ive got some really good moves for him RHYPERIOR megahorn/poisonjab/avalanch thunderbolt earthquake stoneedge if u need help with this set just ask |
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I would only want a team of one:
Gengar-Jolly (levitate) Night shade Hypnosis Dream eater Thunderbolt It would be nicknamed Biggie Johnson! |
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Jolly is one of the worst natures you could have picked. Dream eater sucks, what with most sleeping pokes switching out and it's poor coverage Gengar gas far more powerful moves than night shade when raised properly. Gengar should run as following: [email protected] Orb/Wide Lense Timid 252SpAtt/252Spd/4HP Thunderbolt Shadow Ball Hypnosis/HP Ice Focus Blast Quote:
Don't make me quote the rules to you in bigger, bolder letters than before. Learn about the competetive metagame to give what is, quite frankly, terrible advice. Not only is nightmare a crappy move cured by a simple switchout, it is reliant on hypnosis to work. As is Dream eater. Should he, god forbid, continue to use DE then without Hypnosis it's utterly redundant. Please learn about the metagame and try again. |
Moveset Help
Whats A Good Moveset For A Gliscor
Im Iv Breeding One Now |
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If you want a physical wall use this: Leftovers/impish 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Earthquake Roost ice fang stealth rock/ taunt/ knock off or if you want a baton passer: Leftovers/jolly 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe Rock polish/sword dance Roost Baton pass Earthquake/taunt |
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Yeah i need a set of EVs on my impish Forretress.
Forretress @ Leftovers Impish -Earthquake -Spikes -Rapid Spin -Explosion |
252 HP/164 ATK/92 DEF
I think that's standard for an Impish/Relaxed Forry. |
No. I run 40 Atk at most. Otherwise it loses bulk. You could just run Max HP/Def.
EDIT: Need advice on this set. Machamp @ Leftovers/Life Orb Adamant | Guts [ 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def ] ~ Revenge ~ Payback ~ Rest ~ Sleep Talk |
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Hello, I need some help.
I have these pokemon: Rhypherior, Garchomp, Weavile, Infernape, Salamence, Magnezone, Porygon-Z, Alakazam, Shuckle, Electrode, Steelix, Torterra, Blissey, Steelix, and others on my Pokemon Ranch. I wanted to make a team of 2 special attackers, 2 physical attackers, 1 physical wall, and 1 special wall. Can someone tell me some good pokes for that list (or suggestions of some that arent on the list) Im asking for what is a good attacker, sp attacker, phys wall, and spec wall with or without those pokemon. |
Could I get a Lopunny moveset please?
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oh hey.i hav decided to breed my lv100 luxray.can i have agood moveset for him please
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Luxray suffers the curse of Flareon, that is, he has a great attack stat, but his best physical STAB is Thunder Fang. Poor lion
[email protected] Band/Choice Scarf/Life Orb Adament/Jolly Nature EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Crunch/Quick Attack -Ice Fang -Return -Spark/Thunder Fang Generic Choice Attacker, Quick Attack shouldn't appear on the Scarf set. Best coverage with his small movepool [email protected] Orb Rash/Naive Nature EVs: 120 Atk, 252 Sp Atk, 136 Spd - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power Grass - Crunch - Ice Fang Thunderbolt is the best (accuracy and power) STAB for Luxray, but since his special attack is only base 95. You want to boost that more than Attack. Mixed sweeping capabilities. HP Grass is used, because Luxray is a UU sweeper, and Gastrodon and Quagsire would cause problems. Now with Rivalry you have to choose which threats you are willing to take out easier than others. Male may seem the obvious choice, but Nidoqueen is 2HKO by Ice Fang if you opt for Female, who would otherwise be able to stop your sweep entirely. |
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i cant decide on a team
i kinda want one with mixed elements with sweepers ect but i cant decide any ideas? |
Okay, I already have 2/6 Pokemon for my team. They are Skarmory and Snorlax.
Skarmory @ Leftovers Impish Nature Keen Eye 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Atk Brave Bird Spikes Whirlwind Roost Lead with Skarmory and use Spikes. Then use WW to deal slight damage to his entire team. I use BB when I need to attack and Roost to heal from attacks and BB recoil. Pretty much the standard Skarmory. She has 401 Defense. Snorlax @ Leftovers Adamant Nature Thick Fat 168 HP, 120 Def, 210 SpD Body Slam Crunch Rest Sleep Talk I used BS over Return because of the 30% paralysis rate. Crunch is used to deal with ghosts and Rest and ST are used to heal when HP gets low. I laughed my ass off when I saw his stats after getting him to Lv. 100. He had an even 300 Atk stat. xD That is my team so far, what do you think I need? |
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