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hi i need a set for mewtwo
i thought these moves shadowball psychic focusblast energyball similar to ZAMs sets.sorry dunno EVs |
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No Psychic moves that aren't Psycho Boost. Use this Mewtwo: [email protected] Specs Modest 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Aura Sphere Thunder Ice Beam Shadow Ball |
sorry i dont use choice items.oh yeh my salamence is so ultra.but most special attacks that have normal effect or super or ultra take a chumk of flesh out or they take his life out.but hes speedy so most enemys are killed before they kill.just to say i was thinkin of a team and they are in my sig.can i have sets for em.pleas,pwetty pweese
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Is there a riable bulk up passer? if so can anyone give me the set?
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yes ther is.its blaziken
[email protected]/focus sash blaze atk252,def252,spe6 (only use these for batton passer) flareblitz/firepunch/brickbreak/sub bulk up nightslash/bravebird/sub (preferably night slash over bravebird) batton pass i will try this set out for myself.i recon that it will work well |
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And how would I use Deoxys-S in a battle? Taunt then Rain Dance? |
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@Cascoon is EPIC
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Either a version of the above (with max att / max speed @Jolly) or Kristy Flaotzel works : - [email protected] 40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SPEED Jolly Nature - Taunt - Baton Pass - Bulk Up - Waterfall. Taunt, Bulk Up and Baton pass are game changing moves. In addition this set is fun as hell to use =). |
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Ability: Blaze EVs: 252 HP/136 Atk/6 Spd/116 SpDef Adamant Nature Bulk Up Baton Pass Substitute Fire Punch/Sky Uppercut. Though Floatzel is the better choice. |
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Heatran @ Choice Band Adamant 42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe Earthquake Iron Head/Stone Edge Fire Fang Explosion CB Tran may seem gimmicky, but it actually can hurt quite a few things: CB Iron Head vs. 252 HP/0 Def Tyranitar: 76.24%-90.59% CB Iron Head vs. 252 HP/0 Def Snorlax: 45.23%-53.44% CB Iron Head vs. 0 HP/252 Def Blissey: 50.84%-60.06% CB Stone Edge vs. 0 HP/0 Def Gyarados: 68.07%-80.72% CB Explosion vs. 252 HP/252 Def Blissey: 105.99%-124.73% CB Explosion vs. 252 HP/0 Def Tyranitar: 39.60%46.78%(Yuck) |
Hi, I still play gold, (I found it in a box somewhere and had a pretty good game on it)
and was wondering if anyone could make me a team :) My highest level pokemon is 81. Typhlosion Earthquake Flame Thrower Sunny day Thunderpunch. Thanks people! |
oh hi,typhlosions looking good
heres howw you post a set [email protected] nature EV spread move 1 move 2 move 3 move 4 for a physical sweeper give typhlosion fire punch(if you can) or if not you could use flamewheel or fire blast,but flamethrower is good |
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I beat Red alone and only took 1 Phsycic from his Espeon :) EDIT: How d'you get Fire Blast on Typhlosion? |
you get it from TM. oh yeh you maybe cant get the TM fireblast on the game your playing.if you need help for anouther poke just ask me
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FinalPaladin, irmck requested a GSC Set, so Fire Punch is Special. And GSC didn't have natures or EVs. Earthquake and Rock Slide hit everything in that gen for neutral, so work around that.
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According to smogon, the standard GSC typhlosion was:
[email protected]/Mint berry (Cures sleep) Fire Blast Thunderpunch Earthquake Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass / Rest Ther's also a restTalk variant, with lefties as item. It runs Rest on the final slot and Sleep talk over thunderpunch or earthquake (WHichever you deem less useful). |
IIRC the standard for G/S/C Typhlosion was mixed sweeper...
[email protected] - Thunderpunch - Fire Blast - Earthquake - Hidden Power Grass / Hidden power Ice HP Grass hits Rhydon and Golem whilst HP ice wrecks Dragonite. You can use DynamicPunch to hit blissey, snorlax and umbreon harder>>EQ, but its not recommended due to shaky accuracy. Alternately [email protected] - Rest - Sleep Talk - Fire Blast - Thunderpunch / Hidden power [Grass/Ice] / Earthquake Obligatory rest talk set. Tyhphlosion makes a cool rest talker, but then again everything does in G/S/C lol [email protected] - Curse - Roar / Rest - Earthquake / Return - Fire Blast Roar stops foe Phazers (Since in G/S/C the faster Phazer attempt to Phaze fails so with a few curses you will by Phazing first) Rest allows him to stick around longer. This usually wont work, but ive seen it used in lower tier battles. Reason it wont work ? Suicune and bulky waters, Golem, Rhydon etc. Basically the metagame walls you lol. So your better sticking to one of the above sets in higher tier battles and not this one. |
good point.
can someone give me some ideas for my bt team i need a good fast physical sweeper to replace my metagross. cus metagross is slow he gets killed all the time.please help it needs to go well with my starmie and mence |
is this a good hitmonlee? ive been doing some experimenting with it.....
hitmonlee,jolly life orb/expert belt 126 Atk, 126 SpD, 252 Speed, 6 Def Blaze kick EQ Bullet punch Hi Jump kick/rock slide |
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blazekick closecombat/brickbreak/hi-jumpkick earthquake stoneedge |
Hitmonlee already has a crappy physical def,i dont want it going any lower because of CC.ill stick with rock slide too,i dont like stone edges accuracy....
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yeeeeehhhhh but closecombat will kill the enemy before they can kill you.
and if his defenses are really low it doesnot matter if it lowers. oh yeh stoneedge hits so much harder than anything else. can togekiss be used as a mixed sweeper |
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Hitmonlee @ Choice Band/Life Orb Jolly 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP Close Combat Earthquake Stone Edge Mach Punch/Sucker Punch (only in Platinum) |
Hmmm....maybe because any scizor + bullet punch would otherwise kill it without any EVs in defense?
And i am using his special des,otherwise he wouldt be EV'd in special defense. |
What kind of pathetic argument IS that? Living a Bullet Punch from Scizor, only to do nothing back (bar Blaze Kick, which sucks) is not impressive. Hitmonlee is a hit-and-run Pokemon. It's not supposed to tank hits and keep sweeping. Max Att/Max Spe please.
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I'm trying to make a good team using Ludicolo,Crobat,& Arcanine.Those are my favorite pokemon =)
I'm tired of those cliched OU teams.No Blissey,no Tyranitar. Anything I can add to the 3 I already have?Movesets for the ones I listed would be appreciated... (I was thinking Umbreon or Machamp?IDK) |
I need a good set for a magby. thats right. magby.
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You're better joing and asking in smogon's forum for that, very few people here have a knowledge of how little cup works. Btw Vance is correct on everything said about hitmonlee. |
Im actually using him for a NFE team i was thinking about......i came up with something like this.
magby @ life orb 252 atk 252 spd 6 sp. def substitute/protect focus punch/brick break/cross chop flare blitz/fire punch ?undecided? i refuse to go to smogons forums,the people there are all stuck up jerks. |
You do realise that magmar is also NFE and not UU/NU? Or does it have to be base form?
Anyway, magby's defences are too low, flare blitz's recoil will tear you apart very quickly. Go fire punch. Likewise subs off that thing will be abysmal, not really worth using. Protect is also a waste of a move slot, since magby's not really a scout. I used a CB Magmortar which was reasonably effective, so you could try that: [email protected]/Life Orb (Whichever floats your boat, although as before recoil is not gonna be kind) Jolly 252Att/252Spd/6HP Fire Punch Brick Break/Cross Chop Thunder Punch (Via Platinum Move Tutor) Mach Punch |
Yeah,its gotta be babies(magby,elkid,pichu etc.) thanks,ill test it asap.
hmmmm.....what would you suggest for a elekid? |
I want to try out a mixed Electabuzz set for NU. Would this work?
Electabuzz @ Life Orb Hasty (????????) Thunderbolt Cross Chop HP Grass Ice Punch Hits almost everything for neutral in UU, and notable hits things like Claydol, Quagsire, Gastrodon, etc... for super effective. Buzz also has a decent Base 105 Speed. |
I actually kind of like this set. since you have an even balance here, I would go for more spa evs than atk evs to hit bulky waters harder (aka Quagsire and such) Consider T-Punch>>T-bolt for Mantine as well.
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I got bored and randomly thought of ways to make garchomp better. would this work?
Garchomp @ liife orb timid/jolly 120 atk 132 sp. atk 252 spd. 6 sp. def fire fang/fire blast earthquake draco meteor/dragon claw swords dance/dragon dance it might sound retarded,but ive tried it,and its an absolute beast. |
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I was wondering, on the premise of Platinum's metagame, what is a decent Blissey set? I've been looking at Smogon's sets and am disappointed in general with them. However, if needbe, I'll take one of them up.
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[email protected] 252 DEF / 176 SP.DEF / 80 SP.ATT Calm nature Trait : Natural Cure - Flamethrower / Ice Beam - Seismic Toss - Softboiled - Thunderwave / Toxic Toxic works best on stall teams. However Thunderwave is better otherwise. You can use Aromatherapy in either the first or last slots, but that generally sucks (As it wastes a turn and will become set up fodder when you can just use a rest talker for status =/). Flamethrower hits Lucario, Heracross, Metagross and of course Scizor etc switch ins, whilst Ice Beam is still useful for namely being 4x super effective on Skymin and Salamence. [email protected] 252 DEF / 216 sp.def / 40 hp Calm nature Trait : Natural Cure - Thunderwave / Toxic / Flamethrower / Ice Beam - Seismic Toss - Wish - Softboiled / Protect Wish Bliss is useful for team support. First slot is basically "pick your poison" based on what you want to her to do and hit. However, you must be careful of sub gar if you lack a special attack (who often carries Focus Punch). Softboiled is for instant healing because Blissey often finds herself after Wishing in a predicament, a physical threat will come in and try to set up on her, she then MUST Protect to heal herself (to activate said Wish) which = free dragon dance or whatever, or switch and go through the entire match without being able to heal herself. However Protect is still useful for scouting and saving her from powerful CB Pursuits. So its up to you. If you use a sp.att, use the same ev spread as the first set. Seismic Toss is Blisseys best change of raking up damage (Especially with SR/T-Spikes or Spikes) so its a prime option. And so it doesnt become fodder for these Calm Mind + Sub pokemon and things like Sub Torrent Petaya Empoleon. |
Smogon's sets suck
Blissey @ Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 252 Def, 176 SpDef, 76 SpAtk, 4 Spd Calm Nature Ice Beam Thunder Wave Softboiled and any other move that Blissey is good with. Such as Seismic Toss. should do. Metagross @ Choice Specs Ability: Clear Body EVs: 252 SpAtk, baw, how much is it to beat Magnezone again? Modest Nature Flash Cannon Grass Knot HP Fire Shadow Ball Yeah. |
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And some people allow Wobbuffet. We don't work with exceptions, we work with what's allowed.
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Not trying to start a war,and i dont want an infraction,but chomp isnt so hard to kill....
btw,i need a set for a shaymin. it has to have earth power. |
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I'll assume you mean skymin since that's the only way it'll ever use earth power. [email protected]/LO Timid ll Serene Grace 252 Speed/252 Sp. Atk -Air Slash -Seed Flare -Earth Power -Substitute/ Hp [Ice] I hope that helps. |
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Nonetheless, it's a viable set. |
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If you're gonna use HP ICE, Specs becomes an option. |
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Also, if you want to slap specs on it go ahead, he didn't ask for a specific set. |
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That's subjective, you could be the only that didn't perceive it as obvious. Anyway, I don't feel like getting off topic for nonsense. At least now you know.
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Just look up the common debate argument pro Chomp, it isn't just my perspective, it's a reason for keeping him, flawed it may be. Next time, leave sarcasm out the door to avoid these situations.
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I personally find sweeper Skymin overrated. SubSeed is easily its most terrifying set:
Skymin @ Leftovers 252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP Air Slash Earth Power/Seed Flare Substitute Leech Seed |
I wouldn't call that an argument, that's ignorance. Also sarcasm is an effective way to get a point across, sorry if you don't like it. I promise I'll make it more obvious for you next time. *Last off topic post* Anyway, I'm gone for the night.
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Now, Subseed Skymin is alright, but it doesn't pack enough damage the way Specs/LO does. I don't see it as the best. |
How many Speed EVs does the standard DD Kingdra have in Platinum anyone?
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Hi I was just wondering Just for the sake of novelty what set would be viable for a vileplume in OU battleing, Im stuck. Thanks a lot :)
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Well, I dont have too much experience with vileplume. After a quick look i think a bulky swords dance vileplume for platinum could be feesable.
Vileplume @ Impish @ Chlorophyll @ Black Sludge -Sleep Powder -Substitute/Synthesis -Swords Dance -Seed Bomb EVs: HP-182 Def-192 SpD-136 This version is more of a physical attacker/staller. It would probably function better mid to late game. Sleep powder, then setup accordingly. It kinda gets walled by a lot of types so make sure the opposition is pretty cleared out to try and finish up with him. Good for a bulky sleeper. (Mainly for a "wtf? swords-plume" but could be useful). Or for D/P i would probably come up with something like: Vileplume @ Calm @ Chlorophyll @ Black Sludge -Stun Spore -Energy Ball/Sludge Bomb -HP-Rock/Synthesis -Aromatherapy EVs: HP-134 Def-188 SpD-188 This is more of a team supporter. EVs are geared for a Spec Def bias. Stun Spore helps slow down the opponent. Energy Ball or Sludge Bomb for some decent STAB damage. HP-Rock covers 3/4 of vileplumes weaknesses and is over-all decent for the pokemon he will be seeing, Synthesis keeps Vileplume in the battle to continue tanking. Aromatherapy for team support aswell as keeping Vileplume clear of status. Hope this is somewhat helpful. I'm mainly a UU battler so I don't know the main threats in current OU but these sets seem useful to some extent imo. |
Thanks for the advice, I only have D/p >.<
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Ummm...yeah,i still need a set for shaymin land forme,centered aroud earth power....
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I have no idea .... Choice Specs Modest Nature (Maximise speed and spdef, Dump rest in Hp) Seed Flare Psychic Hidden Power Fire Grass Knot/Hyper Beam I think a sweeper is the best your going to get, From what I see D/P shaymin is inferior in almost every way to celibie and it does not learn Earth power . It may on Platinum I do not know so this is all I can say about it sorry. But anyway Grass knot is a secondary grass attack, hyperbeam is listed but not reccomended due to recargeing. Its there because Shaymin is short on power. |
Great. More people giving out Vileplume advice.
[email protected] Sludge/Leftovers Nature:Calm Sleep Powder/Leech Seed Stun Spore/Leech Seed Stun Spore/Aromatherapy/Substitute Sludge Bomb/Energy Ball EV:244 HP, 148 Sp.Def, 118 Def The supporter, status set, very useful. This is the set that I use in OU. With Stun Spore, Leech Seed, & Substitute, it could run the Subseed route. Nick's set was pretty good, I might add, but it has a major lack in Plume expertise. I happen to be an expert on this subject. http://meaningfuldistractions.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bill-nye.jpg EDIT: Wait, I take that back. Ttar makes Synthesis useless, and HP Rock isn't the most important move for him -he doesn't care about coverage if he isn't fully offensive. |
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[email protected] Specs 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP Modest / Timid Nature - Earth power - Seed Flare - Hidden power Fire / Hidden power Ice - Psychic |
Of course, using that set infects you with teh phail, so be careful. Skymi is the way to go, but I suppose this is wifi.
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On the subject of land shaymin, is a tank set at all viable?
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Sub Seeding is done better by Skymin and so is sweeping poor thing, so meh... |
Moves Sets
Now that I am happy with my Typhlosion I was wondering about Pidgeot and Dragonite (GSC) :) My Dragonite atm is:
Blizzard ThunderPunch FirePunch Return (He loves me :D) And pidgeot Fly Mirror Move Wing Attack Mud Slap |
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For Pidgeot Return >> Fly and Toxic or HP Ground >> Mud Slap @Leftovers. [email protected] - Surf / Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power Fighting / Dynamicpunch - Wing Attack / Thunder Wave Fire Blast can fit on here too if you want or Hidden power Ground for Raikou. [email protected] - Rest / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt - Haze - Double-Edge / Body Slam - Reflect / Light Screen Works too. |
should i replace tuaros for my BT metagross withthis set
[email protected]?????? intimidate atk252/spd252/hp6 earthquake stoneedge zenheadbutt return please help.thanx |
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Sim's moveset for Vileplume seems rather Taunt weak and it would suck to be setting up a sub when a taunting Gyarados/Crobat/etc comes in. Granted you can switch but it wastes a lot of setup. Thats why I was recommending HP-Rock, it covers several pokemon that will try to wall Vileplume aswell as cover his type disadvantages. Ttar does make HP-rock kind pointless but that is what STAB Energy Ball is for. Vileplume @ Calm @ Chlorophyll @ Black Sludge -Stun Spore -Energy Ball -HP-Rock/Leech Seed -Aromatherapy EVs: HP-134 Def-188 SpD-188 I think this moveset will suprise a lot of people who aren't expecting Vileplume to stay in when it seems walled. HP-Rock allows for better dexterity in combat, leaving it capable in the face of Taunt. Leech Seed has a pretty obvious reason behind it. |
hey captain nick.can you give me a fast physical sweeper will my tauros set be good for the battle tower
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You don't play Plume in OU much, huh? On paper, that *may* make sense. However, I've tried the two-move thing,it didn't work as well. The Subseed set is a standard for any able to get their mitts on a Leech Seed Oddish. It is meant really for switches. The status set, which I use, really disables teams. Crobat & Gya may have Taunt, but that doesn't save them from switching into the odd Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Stun Spore. HP Rock may seem great, but in reality, it isn't. In the fast pace realm of OU, it can't afford to be so wishy washy, using HP Rock. Many things switch when they see Plume, promotig status. And most importantly, even though it covers his weaknesses, don't forget to know the pokes themselves. The only OU fire type is Infernape (Moltres is too rarely seen to count), and he isn't Rock weak -he'll take more from Sludge Bomb. Every poke & their mother has an Ice attack, and hitting a poke wit HP ROCK won't hurt enough to scare them. Crobat can just eliminate before you take it out with HP ROCK, and Ice Fang will put an end to Plume. If you're scared to use a poke because of Taunt, you're playing it wrong :P Not that HP Rock doesn'tt have it's merits, but it only its most seen pokes for neutral. |
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Pursuit is also an option > Zen Headbutt if you want to catch those runaway ghosts. Otherwise, I see no reason to run him over a Metagross. I use the exact same set. :) Oh and give him Choice Band. |
I need a reliable moveset for kingler in platinum. With superpower if possible.
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Jolly Nature 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 Speed Trait :Hyper Cutter - Crabhammer - Super Power - X-Scissor - Rock Slide ^__^. |
A moveset for an in-game Blaziken on Emerald
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Thx :) But, why not crabhammer? Because of the low acuraccy? |
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ok then, how about battle blaziken?
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[email protected] 16 HP / 56 Attack / 240 Sp.Att / 196 Speed Rash nature - Fire Blast - Thunderpunch - Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice - Sky Uppercut |
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anyway.... i need one last member and my team will be done... Alakazam. it has to be centered around gaurd swap. its for doubles. |
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Well, I don't know a whole lot about Alakazam, only that it seems to sweep my team everytime it shows its face. >__< So I can't give you a set. However, Guard Swap could be used on a team-mate Shuckle to sacrifice him for an ultimate Alakazam..? Skill Swap is also great for him in double battles, this time to sacrifice Alakazam to take that horrid ability away from a team-mate Slaking. Haha, I sure love sacrificing.. =/ |
Actualy the thing with shuckle was what i has in mind...
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please help i really need a fast physical sweeper for my BT teaam please help
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[email protected] expert belt/life orb Jolly 252atk/252/speed/6hp Night slash Brick break Ice punch Sword dance |
thinking of a zapdos
[email protected] life orb modest 6 hp / 252 sp.atk / 252 spe thunderbolt substitute roost roar/toxic (for ground types) i'm bad, so please rate >.< |
could someone plz give me a good moveset, item and nature for these pokes
charizard gyaridos blissey salamance tyranitar and garchomp |
Is this good for rampardos?
[email protected] Choice Scarf Jolly 252 Atk / 6 Sp.Def / 252 Speed Earthquake Stone edge Pursuit Thunder punch |
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i just came across a spiritomb and whats the best mixed wall set for it
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Careful ll Pressure 252 HP / 140 Atk / 116 SpD -WoW -Pain Split -Pursuit -Sucker Punch I hope that's what you're looking for. |
i was hoping more defensive both special and physical
it needs to include pain split and curse... whats the breeding chain |
WoW takes care of the physical part since it halves attack. That along with Sp.D should allow it to sort of tank. Spiritomb + Misdrevous = Pain Split Spiritomb
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thanks but whats wow and the evs
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WoW = Will-O-Wisp. It burns the foe, therefore halving attack. Just go by the EVs I posted before.
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alright thanks so much i appreciate it
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Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) Trait: Blaze ~ Air Slash ~ Focus Blast ~ Flamethrower ~ Overheat / Dragon Pulse Gyarados @ Leftovers Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk) Trait: Intimidate ~ Dragon Dance ~ Waterfall ~ Taunt ~ Ice Fang / Earthquake / Stone Edge Blissey @ Leftovers Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) Trait: Natural Cure ~ Softboiled ~ Aromatherapy / Heal Bell ~ Ice Beam ~ Thunder Wave / Seismic Toss Salamence @ Life Orb / Yache Berry Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk) Trait: Intimidate ~ Dragon Dance ~ Earthquake ~ Fire Fang / Fire Blast ~ Dragon Claw / Outrage OR Salamence @ Choice Specs Modest Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk) Trait: Intimidate ~ Draco Meteor ~ Fire Blast / Flamethrower ~ Hydro Pump ~ Dragon Pulse Tyranitar @ Leftovers Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk) Trait: Sandstream ~ Earthquake ~ Stone Edge ~ Crunch / Taunt ~ Dragon Dance / Rock Polish Garchomp @ Choice Scarf Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk) Trait: Sand Veil ~ Outrage ~ Earthquake ~ Stone Edge ~ Crunch / Fire Fang / Dragon Claw OR Garchomp @ Yache Berry / Life Orb Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk) Trait: Sand Veil ~ Swords Dance ~ Earthquake ~ Dragon Claw / Outrage ~ Fire Fang / Stone Edge |
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Kingdra @ Life Orb
Adamant/ Swift Swim 252 Atk/ 216 Spe/ 40 Hp Waterfall Outrage Dragon Dance Dragon Dance and life orb place it's attack power to a little bit above the 600 mark. Which combined with outrage hits pokemon extremely hard. Waterfall is for pokemon for STAB and to hit steel types that would other wise resist outrage. With this set draco meteor is hardly going to hit many other pokemon harder that outrage and waterfall are already doing so I've no need for it. 252 Atk is tp increase attack and I reasoned that with 216 Evs in spe that is enough to outspeed +speed skymin. Extra Evs in HP. The thing I need answered is a more suitable EV spread and 4th moveslot. I feel that the EV spread wastes too much in speed which could be spent on improving bulkyness in Hp. Note: This is Kingdra IS NOT going to be used on a rain dance team. |
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