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Are you sure ?. I know it got Agility in G/S/C from event but not in D/P. Do you have a link ? (Smogon, serebii or shoddy dont say it gets it.) |
http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/magnemite
I don't know how reliable you guys value Veekun as, but it's there anyways. |
Well if you used the button that said only show moves from Diamond/Pearl you would see that Agility isn't listed anymore.
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I was wondering, if Banette got Swords Dance, what would the damage calcs be against the following targets (all of these are Max Attack + Adamant):
+2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno +2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig +2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol +2 LO Brick Break vs. Max HP/Max Def Steelix |
I'm having trouble with my Blastoise for a complete BL moveset. For my UU team, he is the only one with a problem.
The mirror coat affected his spread and... Blastoise @ Leftovers Nature: calm 152 HP/ 252 Def/ 108 Special Def Surf Aqua Ring Toxic Mirror Coat I'm thinking, I replace either Toxic or Aqua Ring (I could replace Toxic) for Protect, to scout my opponent's moves and for a free turn to heal from Aqua Ring and Leftovers, but that's just the problem... Stupid Scizor's X-scissor... Damn Uber Skymin.... |
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That's why all the reliable sites (serebii, smogon etc) seperate their lists by Generations to avoid problems like this, so just because you see it's possible on one site doesn't mean it is possible for the 4th Generation. |
+2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno 79.41% - 93.85% +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno 45.72% - 53.74% +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Hypno 60.42% - 71.12% +2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig 84.89% - 100.54% +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig 48.62% - 57.69% +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Grumpig 64.83% - 76.37% +2 LO Shadow Claw vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol 71.29% - 84.25% +2 LO Shadow Sneak vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol 41.66% - 49.07% +2 LO Sucker Punch vs. Max HP/Max Def Claydol 54.32% - 64.19% +2 LO Brick Break vs. Max HP/Max Def Steelix 28.81% - 34.46% Keep in mind, most of those sets don't run Max Def, anyway. BTW, Sucker Punch doesn't get a STAB. You know that, right? Enjoy... |
what do you think of this flygon moveset?
[email protected] Choice specs Timid 252 Sp.Atk/252Speed/6hp Heat Wave/Fire Blast Earth Power Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor Giga Drain/Grass knot I just made it up for my BL team. |
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I like it. Could be a nasty surprise for those who are thinking the standard mix set or choice banded variants. Just make sure you use it correctly, as it won't have as many shots to work as a more standard set. EDIT: You're going to want modest>timid...Just so those Specs don't go to waste. The increase in power will make up for the speed loss. |
Yeah i know i need good prediction to make it work, i hate being restricted to one attack.
i was also thinking of life orb or expert belt as an option |
What moveset on salamence is the most useful now a days in the platinum metagame?
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There are quite a few sets that ppl use very commonly. Yache DDMence, Bulky Mence,SpecsMence.All of these sets aren't too bad, but I-and a lot of other RMTer's here- probably agree that the best Mence Variant is Mixmence.
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Could someone help me out with a Noctowl set with Heat Wave?
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Timid 252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP Heat Wave Air Slash HP Ground Psychic/Shadow Ball Noctowl's offensive stats (SpAtt and Speed) are very poor, you're gonna have to use specs if you wanna make any sort of impression on the battle. As for the set, the 3 types that resist flying are hit by HP ground for super effective damage instead. Heat wave then covers the stuff that neither Air slash or HP hit, namely skarmory, bronzong and zapdos. If this is for UU, then psychic can put holes in the plethora of fighting types that appear everywhere. In OU you may prefer shadow ball to hit the likes of azelf and cresselia harder. |
Can anyone give me the standard curse bibarel set?
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I would like help for a moveset 4 a mixed wall Dusknoir
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I have been an OU battler for quite a while now and I have finally decided I want to take a step down and try my hand at UU. It would be awesome if you could help me out a bit. Do you think you could tell me some of the most powerful:
Physical Sweepers Special Sweepers Mixed Sweepers Tanks Physical Walls Special Walls Mixed Walls Leads. Thanks everyone. |
Well, your beloved Hitmonlee's a powerful physical sweeper in UU...
Main Special Walls are Hypno, Grumpig and Clefable. |
<_< Asking for the most powerful of anything in UU metagame is like asking what is the best pokemon in the entire metagame.
You'll get a beshevled amount of different responses, and almost all of them will be based on pesonal use and experience. With UU becoming more and more popular, you'll notice it's mainly people focusing on the pokemon they like and the stats they have. And to the Poster above the 2 Dusknoir @ Leftovers Impish 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD Ice Punch/Tpunch/Fire Punch Will-o-Wisp Pain Split EQ/Shadow Sneak The choice of EQ/Shadow Sneak or which Elemental punch is up for grabs, as it is mainly based on what your team needs to counter. I like EQ simply for Heatrans which are SO common these days with so many Scizors sweeping the metagame. Its based on personal opinion and what you need to dodge more :) |
I know it sound strange coming from me, but I need help constructing a Hail team. I'm trying to combine six Ice-types that will make-up for the Ice-type's weaknesses as much as possible. Froslass helps agianst Fighting, Walrein and Dewgong and Fire and Steel, Mamoswine against Rock...any suggestions?
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As for the rest of the team, Weavile, Froslass, Mamoswine, Regice and Walrein would work nicely. Walrein > Dewgong for a Hail team. Dewgong's much better on a Rain Dance team. I don't know a lot about Hail teams, and I'm way too tired, so I can't help you with the sets, but at least that's some ideas. |
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I have come up against a Hail team before though. To say the least, I was surprised. With the movesets and strategies he had, covering weaknesses, even fire, was no fret. If you think you need a Rapid Spinner, which you probably do with Stealth Rock being so popular, then try to make room for it by replacing it with the one you think you're going to need the least for covering weaknesses. Quote:
I thought it'd be nice to have the Hail only hurting your opponent, but maybe you need to sacrifice that for a stable team. |
Froslass, there is no way you're gonna be covering up an ice team's weaknesses if you're only using ice types. All those attacks that hit ice for SE are still gonna be problems. Granted you'll be able to cover up the fight weak with froslass' immunity, but what about fire types? For example, Specsmence is gonna leave massive holes in your entire team, nothing can safely switch in on fire or dragon attacks. Likewise any competant user of stone edge will dent everything you have, as will any fighting move once froslass goes down. I know you like ice types, but by being completely monotype you are only screwing yourself over. You're gonna have to branch out, for example take up a poke with flash fire to lessen the fire weak.
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I will ask again, maybe nobody saw it:
Can anyone give me the standard curse bibarel set? I was thinking of it for a UU team, but i may choose quagsire as well, in that case witch moveset is more efective on it? |
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[email protected] 252 HP / 48 Atk / 120 Def / 88 Sp.Def ability: Simple nature: Adamant - Curse - Waterfall - Quick Attack - Return / Taunt / Amnesia Water + Normal have awesome coverage. Curse + priority make this set kinda cool. Taunt stops status and phazing, whilst Amnesia allows you to get + 4 in sp.def after a single one due to simple and Return for a solid normal stab move. Quote:
Actually looking at it ....i want to try this too =o. |
anybody here got a set for a torterra with curse?
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I want the best EV spread for a Curse Aggron. Any ideas :P
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WOW THANKS D_A!! And phantom, i dont think curse is a good option for torterra, because its LOW Sp.Def and its 4x ice weakness makes curse difficult to pull off. In fact, Rock polish is a better option, allowing him to outspeed some threats and kill them back. Here you Have the rock polish set: [email protected] Life Orb/Leftovers/Lum berry Adamant 252 atk/252 speed/6 def Rock Polish Wood Hammer Stone Edge Earthquake Hope it helped...... |
Well yeah,i suppose a rock polish set could work...
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I'm trying to think of a good team for wifi battling for Platinum but i need help with EVs,Nature, etc
Also, i wanna try to use all Sinnoh region native Pokemon http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/infernape.png Nature: Jolly EV: Undecided Ability: Blaze Item: Life Orb Attacks: Flare Blitz Grass Knot Undecided Undecided http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/lucario.png Nature: undecided EV: Undecided Ability: Undecided Item: undecided Attacks: Aura Sphere Water Pulse undecided undecided http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/staraptor.png Nature: Adamant EV: Undecided Item: Undecided Ability: Intimidate Attack: Brave Bird Fly Heat Wave Close Combat http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/carnivine.png Nature: Undecided EV: Undecided Ability: Levitate Item: Undecided Attacks: Power Whip Undecided Undecided Undecided The last 2 Pokemon are undecided as well So can anyone help me? |
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Infernapes most effective set is the mixed variant, which flare blitz plays little part in. Likewise the recoil from FB and Life Orb would soon rack up. Ghost/Fight covers everything in the game for at least neutral, so there's no need for water pulse which is weak anyway. Staraptor's base SpAtt is abysmal, no heat wave for him. |
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and why Vaccum Wave for Lucario when it already has Aura Sphere and why Dragon Pulse |
hi there, i just wanna know on what you think about this as a team..i don't need help with EV's/movesets/items AS OF YET. i want to know just for the sake of type weakness/coverage, and how the team blends together. so whats your opinion on:
weavile gengar tyranitar blissey milotic scizor |
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1. Staraptor has pathetic special attack so Heatwave is kinda novelty outside of gimmicky Lo mix sets. 2. Close Combat already hits ice pokes and you will hit them harder with return/brave bird due to its better attack stat and STAB anyway. 3. Choice Band gives you a 50% boost to attacks so you will do quite a bit of damage. Vacuum Wave has priority and it helps nab faster foes and/or frail stuff who you would not be able to kill otherwise : - See Weavile, Scarf Porgyon z and Tyranitar after a dragon dance etc. Dragon Pulse hits Dragons who pretty much take lol damage from your entier set otherwise. Hidden power Ice and Rock are perfectly usable there too. |
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Can I please have a moveset for my Darkrai that I got in a special event?
here's what it looks like now: Darkrai @ (no item) Nature: Hasty EVs: 0 for all stats Spacial rend (I'd like to keep this, if it's allowed...) Roar of time Nightmare Hypnosis |
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Hasty 156Att/176SpAtt/176Spd Dark Void Dark Pulse Focus Punch Substitute/Thunder Standard MixKrai is the only set that makes use of hasty. Spacial rend adds very little to the set, dark/fight/thunder hits a lot of the uber metagame already. |
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I guess i never thought of it like that, thx guys ^^ Although..........i still don't understand Vaccum Wave and what you mean by "priority hits" could you explain that? Oh and I still need help with the last 2 Pokemon for my party, can you help me with that too? and can someone help me with my Carnivine? |
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But Aura SPhere does the same thing o.o So i guess Carnivine will be like a Wall? or a Stall? |
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On the standard Suicide Aero lead, would Aqua Tail be viable over Earthquake?
Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash Jolly nature Pressure 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd - Stealth Rock - Taunt - Rock Slide - Earthquake / Aqua Tail I also considered Ice Fang in the last slot. Thoughts? |
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hi.i came up with this mixed lucario set
[email protected]/salacberry ?????nature ?????ability spd103/spa252/atk152 psychic earthquake dragonpulse aurasphere Please rate |
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No no no no, Earthquake sucks and is weaker than Close Combat in nearly every single case. Aura Sphere is outclassed by Focus Blast on every set besides Specs. Dragon Pulse is inferior, use HP Ice. MixLuke doesn't work; just use Lucario w/ HP Ice. |
Hiya, can some people tell me what they think of this team, and if it can be improved and how.
Skarmory @ Focus Sash Rock Slide Spikes Stealth Rock Whirl Wind Infernape @ Life Orb Grass Knot Flare Blitz/Flamethrower E~Quake Close Combat Weavile @ Life Orb Night Slash Shadow Ball/ Surf Ice Beam Brick Break Blissey @ Leftovers Seismic Toss Softboiled Thunder Wave Ice Beam Flygon @ Life Orb Giga Drain Dragon Claw Fire Blast E~Quake Starmie @ Petaya Berry Thunderbolt Ice Beam Psychic Surf Can I have your thoughts please, and not total criticism, but constructive criticism. TIC TAC |
You'd better start off with the basics: Ev's and Natures. While they might seem neglible right now, they are of the utmost importance.
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Focus Punch is used against Blissey, & Thunder hits Kyogre, Lugia & Ho-oh....(plus it's 30% of paralyzing) so, It does look like Spacial Rend is unneeded.... But, would it be a option over Dark Pulse if Darkrai held Scope lens, or is that depending on HAX too much? |
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And no, if a poke has access to STAB'd dark moves in the uber tier it is realllly stupid not to use it. Of the 21 pokemon existing in the uber tier, 11 are hit for super effective damage by DP- Thats a full half of them. Plus, Dark/Fight is a type combo that hits everything in the game for at least neutral, covering the multitude of non-ubers brought into the tier. So yeah, spacial rend does not help at all really. |
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I agree with Dark Pulse > Spacial Rend. It also does a huge amount to all the dragons bar Dialga (Focus Blast also dents that too) and the flinch chance can help you kill something or even win a match. |
Would this cloyster work?
cloyster @ leftovers impish 252 hp, 252 def, 6 atk toxic spikes icicle spear explosion spikes |
I assume Cloyster will likely come in on something scared of it (I'm still looking), set up a layer of TS or Spikes on the switch in and if they be ice weak, to nail them with all 5 hits of IS.
IMO, ditch either Spikes or Toxic Spikes, as it's unlikely that Cloyster will get 5 turns to set all of them up, and replace with Rapid Spin, as it disposes of enemy spikes. |
okay,im probably going to replace icicle spear with ice shard too.
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Can someone give me a little advice for building a team with this lead? thanks
[email protected] Berry 252 hp/252 atk/6 def - Meteor Mash - Stealth Rock - Bullet Punch - Thunder Punch 252 hp evs basically survives every earthquake, so stealth rocks almost always go up. any help guys? |
Cloyster really wants 252HP/[email protected] He's already got enough defence, he needs max SpDef so he can survive krabby's bubblebeam.
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lol,okay ill re EV him...
btw, i thought of this while being very bored today smeargle @ leftovers impish 252 def , 252 sp. def, 6 hp cosmic power stealth rock explosion spore it sounds stupid, i know, but it could work, couldnt it? |
In the unlikely event that you manage to get in 6 Cosmic Powers, what would you do? Explode?
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It IS stupid, sorry to break it to you. No one will let you Cosmic Power 6 times, and even if you Cosmic Power 6 times, fighting attacks will screw you over. Even after 6 Cosmic Powers, a Choice Banded Machamp still 2HKO's you effortlessly, nevermind that you'll NEVER get Cosmic Powers off (did I say that already :<). Explosion does ass to basically everything without a Belly Drum, which is usually Baton Passed since Smeargle still only has 608 Attack AFTER a Belly Drum, which is horrible (Smeargle has 20 Base Attack, or 152 before the BD) Clefable, Claydol, hell even Starmie does the whole Cosmic Power gimmick thing better. At LEAST give Smeargle a recovery move and something like Toxic or Explosion and Stealth Rock; both are complete garbage moves on that set to be perfectly honest. |
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Looking for an EV spread for this Blissey
Blissey @ Leftovers Calm Seismic Toss Ice Beam Thunder Wave Softboiled I would like to use this on Wifi. |
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There's another EV spread used for Blissey if you want Ice Beam to do more damage; I think it's 82 SpA/252 Def/176 SpD. |
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I'm not quite sure if my movesets are correct, I believe they are, but what about the EV's? Discussion!
Bronzong @ Damp Rock Trait: Levitate Nature: Sassy 252 HP/ 108 Defense/ 152 SDefense -Rain Dance -Hypnosis -Stealth Rock -Gyro Ball Kingdra @ Leftovers/ Life Orb Trait: Swift Swim Nature: Modest 252 SAttack/ 16 Speed/ 240 HP -Surf -Ice Beam -Hidden Power [ELEC] -Rain Dance Electrivire @ Expert Belt Trait: Motor Drive Nature: Lonely 252 Attack/ 172 Speed/ 84 SDefense -Thunder/ Thunderbolt -Ice Punch -Earthquake -Cross Chop Milotic @ Leftovers Trait: Marvel Scale Nature: Bold 252 HP/ 252 Defense/ 4 SDefense -Rest -Sleep Talk -Surf -Ice Beam Ludicolo @ Mystic Water Trait: Swift Swim Nature: Modest 152 HP/ 252 SAttack/ 104 Speed -Grass Knot -Surf -Ice Beam -Rain Dance |
Swellow @ Toxic Orb
Adamant 110 HP / 252 Attack / 90 Speed - Facade - Steel Wing / Brave Bird - U-Turn - Pursuit Facade for STAB, Steel Wing for coverage (or Brave Bird for another strong, STAB), U-Turn to get the out of there if the battle goes bad for me, and Pursuit for the pokemon who switch out. Just wanted to know if this Swellow could be good in a UU wifi/shoddy battle. |
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For the record, Steel only hits Ice and Rock, the latter being the only concern. If its a Phys wall, then Steel Wing won't do much anyway, otherwise Facade is just a good. Geeknerdbutt, you can always post an RMT if you want a team checked out in detail. Regardless, Kingdra is now more of a threat as a Physical Sweeper, with Outrage and what are with Electivire's EVs? Just run 252/252, unless there's a good reason. |
Okay, looking for a moveset for my Lickilicky:
Lickilicky/Level 100/Gentle/Own Tempo *not sure what to give it to hold* HP - 344 Attack -189 Defense - 189 Sp.Atk - 185 Sp.Def - 246 Speed - 115 Hidden Power *Fire, according to the online calculator I used* Wring Out Gyro Ball Power Whip |
i'm looking for a decent poke to clear nasty weather effects away and have been contemplating using blissey as follows.
Bold Nature, 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD EVs Sunny Day Flamethrower Solarbeam Softboiled is it worth it or is there a better sandstorm/hail canceller out there for OU play? |
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Why waste time trying to cancel weather out when Aboma and Hippow/tar can just set it back up automatically lol? and why sunny day when its inferior to Rain Dance (Choice of pokes, which pokes wall you etc)? Kingdra is your best bet for canceling weather(Rain Dance) as is Bronzong, and then you can base the rest of your team around this and throw in some good stuff like Kabutops, let me tell you after an SD in the rain its GG, even in ou from that thing. |
I was wondering how this tyranitar would fair in competitive play
Tyranitar @ choice specs modest 252 sp. atk, 252 speed, 6 hp dark pulse ice beam earth power flamethrower |
hi,does this set work for donphan
[email protected] berry that raises attack adamant nature sturdy atk252/def252/spD or HP 6 iceshard stoneedge earthquake endure i need to know if this wood work for the battle tower.if say kecleon endures a hit and salacberry activates, then if kecleon kills the foe and wins the fight,when kecleon goes into the next fight does salac berry come back Thanx :D oh yeh almost forgot,that tyranitar setshould work as ttars special atk is not that bad thanx again |
Will Machamp's max atk stat with a stone edge/thunder punch OKO lead gyarados? thanks.
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Bulky Gyarados/252 atk speed gyarados and please answer yes and no intimidate
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ThunderPunch does 157.84% - 185.95% and 197.59% - 232.53% to Bulky and LO Gyara, respectively. Normal Machamo does 131.33% - 155.42% with T-Punch to LO Gyara and 104.86% - 124.32% to Bulky ones. SE does 70.27% - 82.70% to Bulky and 87.95% - 103.61% to LO Gyara. I'm probably doing some unnecessary calculations. :< |
Actually, that's just what I wanted. Thanks, I was trying some myself and It said like 70% or something, I knew I was doing something wrong.
So wait, do you mean by "normal machamo" = max atk machamp w/ intimidate? ANYWAYs, is jirachi considered a better special/physical wall? |
Standard "Lead" Machamp runs 160 Attack EVs, giving it a total of 369. I'm assuming that the Bulky Gyara you speak of is the 370 HP/219 Defense version.
(-1) 369 Attack Machamp's Thunder Punch vs. 370 HP/219 Defenses Gyarados: 65.95%-77.84% With Stealth Rock up, the chance of an OHKO is only 15.38%. (-1) 369 Attack Machamp's Stone Edge vs. 370 HP/219 Defense Gyarados: 43.78%-51.89% Even with Stealth Rock up; it will never OHKO. However, the Choice Band versions is very different; (-1) 591 Attack Machamp's Thunder Punch vs. 370 HP/219 Defense Gyarados: 104.86%-124.32% OHKO's 100% of the time. (-1) 591 Attack Machamp's Stone Edge vs. 370 HP/216 Defense Gyarados: 69.73%-82.16% With Stealth Rock support, it OHKO's 53.85% of the time. |
Hahaha alright thanks man, I'm using an Anti-Lead Sub champ' with 252/252 hp and atk evs and I wanted to know if I wanted to use stone edge or thunderpunch.
And is Jirachi a better special or physical wall? |
Honestly, Anti-Lead Machamp does best with Payback/Ice Punch/Dynamicpunch/Substitute. Gyarados will never willingly take a Dynamicpunch, and the chances of you OHKOing isn't exactly great.
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Well, I really need some more support on killing Gyarados, and I usually hate using something like Payback, because the only thing that that uses anything needing payback is Gengar or Azelf, so I'm setting up another pokemon (celebi worked great before the platinum version of scizor came out) to switch it out on, and no one predicts right at the start of the game, so I think I'm good there.
And also, I've been using the same standard pokemon movesets/evs and I've failed with it, and I need to be more adjusted to my battling style. |
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I honestly dont get what Anti Lead machamp acomplishes, like every lead still sets up on it apart from t-tar lol
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hmmmmmmmmmmm, i see And how about Muscle Band for Starpator? Is that a little better than Choice Band, because Choice Band's Move lock effect sort-of .........turns me :/ |
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Sure, Infernape can run a lot of moves, but THE BEST one runs Nasty Plot, Close Combat, Grass Knot (or HP Ice), and Flamethrower. It lets him kill off the most walls. |
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I know, i know I don't trust 100% ,it's just that i really wanna get good at Wifi battling so im open to any and all info i can get my little hands on *washes hands* Okay so what about this: http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/floatzel.png nature: Jolly Item: Left Overs EV: undecided Ability: Swift Swim Attacks: Ice Beam Aqua Tail undecided undecided |
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So Floatzel is more of a Physical Sweeper? EDIT: What about Thunderpunch for Infernape? |
I am raising a Donphan for myself. It has been EV wiped.
~I would like an EV spread for Donphan ~I would like an item suggestion/(s) ~I'll consider moveset edits Donphan (m) @ Impish EV's: none, as yet Sturdy ~Endeavor ~Ice Shard ~Earthquake ~Knock Off ~H.o.t Dawn~ |
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hows this for a probopass?
probopass @ leftovers impish 252 def, 200 hp ,52 sp. def thunder wave explosion earth power gravity im really unexpierenced with this thing so i know this set should be crap... |
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