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i send out donphan foe sends out sceptile donphan used endure sceptile used energy ball donphan endured the hit dophans leichi berry raised its attack donphan used iceshard(it should do quiet alot after leichi boost and phans base 120 atk) sceptile used energyball donphan faints. good init oh and finally may i ask,where do you guys train up your pokes |
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Would it be smart to have instead of quick feet ursaring then to have an agility passed to guts Jolly ursaring with 252 atk/252 spe? Would it outrun the quick feet version?
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actually, i answered my own question. thanks though.
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Hey can Someone Help me out? i cant decide on a team........ i have the pokemon i want and i just am not to sure what moves to teach.
My Current Team: Feraligatr: Hold Item:Muscle Band Waterfall IcePunch Earthquake BrickBreak Kecleon (Shiny!): Hold Item: Expert Belt Strength Ice Punch Fire Punch Thunder Punch Houndoom: Hold Item:Wise Glasses Dark Pulse Hidden Power Nasty Plot Flamethrower Any improvements i can make? |
can someone tell me two more moves i could put on this arcanine?
[email protected] choice band jolly 252 atk 252 spe 6 hp flare blitz extreme speed ---- ---- help would be appreciated. |
Since Arcanine's physical movepool is lacking severely, you're limited to, for D/P:
Flare Blitz Extremespeed Thunder Fang Iron Tail/Overheat Overheat is to hit some things like Hippowdon harder than what Flare Blitz would. Iron Tail smacks sturdy rock types that completely wall you though. |
Alakazam @ leftovers
timid nature (+ speed - attack ) EV: 252 sp.atk 252 spe calm mind psychic energy ball focus blast |
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id drop calmmind for shadow ball,its to stop.good ghosts like the strong dusknoir from walling you.i dont want my donphan to kill sceptile,i just used him as an example.
is this good for da chicken [email protected]/salacberry blaze adamant nature nightslash flareblitz/firepunch only use flareblitz when its got salac berry sandattack skyuppercut or [email protected] blaze ????? nature night slash focus blast flamethrower bravebird/rockslide |
ehh....this could work..the idea is to setup trick room and the rest is self explanatory....
Shuckle @ focus sash ??? nature 252 def, 252 sp. def, 6 spe earthquake rock slide hp electric power trick i mght just use it as another of my crzy sets... |
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Shuckle always needs Max HP and Defense....Or else his walling abilities go way down.
Yeah get rid of HP electric. It does nothing at all...add Gyro Ball. Impish nature, and make sure you're using him in a sandstorm. |
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Night Slash is sort of garbage on Ken. This set works better for physical Blaziken: Blaziken @ Life Orb/Choice Band/Choice Scarf Adamant Nature 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP Flare Blitz Stone Edge Sky Uppercut EQ/T-Punch Salac only works with reversal. For mixed ken, Blaziken @ Choice Scarf Rash Nature 30HP/30Def IVs 76 Atk/ 216 Spa/ 216 Spe Sky Uppercut Thunder Punch HP Ice Fire Blast/Overheat. |
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Adamant EV's: 28 HP, 252 Attack, 228 Speed -Dragon Dance / Swords Dance -Ice Punch -Waterfall -Earthquake DDGatr is probably its best bet. If you can't breed Horsea to get Gatr Dragon Dance, then you can opt for Swords Dance instead, but make sure to max out Speed at 252 EV's, taking out the spare HP EV's. The EV spread is so that you outrun what you're able to outrun and putting the rest in HP. (229+ Speed gets you nowhere, as it doesn't let you outspeed anything 228 can't) Also, if you're using Swords Dance, go for Salac Berry. Keckleon @ Choice Band Adamant EV's: 220 HP, 252 Attack, 36 Defense -Trick -Return / Body Slam -Sucker Punch -Focus Punch Keckleon's got a great move in Trick, and functions well as a lead. Trick an SR user and Focus Punch on the switch, because Steels and Rocks wall Keckleon with their "Let's just STAB then Earthquake him" mentality. Return vs. Body Slam is power vs. paralysis. Sucker Punch is for priority, but don't fling this around as you become setup fodder doing so. Houndoom @ Life Orb Flash Fire Timid EV's: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed -Nasty Plot -Flamethrower / Fire Blast -Dark Pulse -Hidden Power Fighting / Will-O-Wisp Houndoom is a personal favorite of mine, because it's so fun :p Anyway, it's no Infernape, but it's definitely better than Ninetales. Two useful immunities help it switch in easily and scare out a lot of things. You then NP on the switch and proceed to rock & roll. HP Fighting better be the Hidden Power your Houndoom has, just saying. If you don't posess HP Fighting, then switch to Will-O-Wisp. Hope I helped. :) |
Gyarados does the Dragon Dancing thing a lot better than Feraligatr. If you're going to use it, go with Swords Dance.
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Can I have a competetive battling movesets for this team;
Delcatty Infernape Flygon Scizor Kingdra Umbreon Thanks. =] Also, Im really new to this, so Im not sure what kind of strategy would be best for this team. If you want to suggest a diff pokemon, Im fine with that. (dont move scizor. scizor is ownage :3) I think I need to have a type of normal type to cpver the types I missed/don't have. (ex. grass, I have no grass...) |
Looking for a physical Flareon set. Would Natural Gift work for him?
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For one thing, Gyarados has more attack (hugely important), so Feraligatr is a million times easier to wall. Gyarados also can survive a lot of electric attacks like HP Electric from Vaporeon, who has 110 base SAtk (same as Lucario's base attack). It's great that Feraligatr got you some wins on WiFi, but you're lying to yourself saying that Feraligatr is better. It just isn't. The usage patterns kind of agree with me there =p I actually think Gyarados is overrated but that's a whole different issue lol. Brit Spears is right though. If you use Feraligatr, SD is what you should use. Otherwise, you would be better off using Gyarados (unless your team is insanely SR weak with no wish support or spinner or something, and even then, DDgatr probably isn't the best choice). |
Honestly, DD Feraligatr is vastly inferior to DD Gyarados. While it has more bulk, Intimidate basically negates that. If use a SubSD Set, which has been very sucessful for me:
Feraligatr @ Salac Berry Jolly 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP (30 HP IV) Swords Dance Substitute Waterfall Return/Crunch This has a lot more attack than Gyarados pound for pound, and has Torrent to make its Waterfall incredibly beastly. |
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Hmmm... Try this for CBPhan: Donphan uses Ice Shard Sceptile faints. Better? EDIT: Vance and those concerned, Quick Feet is a 1.5x boost to Spd. Agility is 2x. Also, considering Quick Feet does not remove the 25% full paralysis chance, the +2/Guts variant would both outspeed it and have no chance of locking up. CM Alakazam can work well. It CMs on a switch, having an effective Specs Boost, with no move-lock and some Special Bulk. One huge problem with the Specs set is that most of it's movepool has several types that can switch in, forcing it out. (Psychic, Ghost and Fighting all have types that are immune to them) Without Specs, it avoids this. Oh and ScarfChomp, Attacks that lower accuracy are permitted, although moves that increase evasion aren't. This is because the effects can be removed if the pokemon with lowered acc. switches or faints. Therefore, Sand Attack is not banned. |
Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Poison Heal Spore Leech Seed Substitute Focus Punch Well, I need a bit of help with the EV spread. I also get screwed over by ghost types, so I can opt out either Focus Punch or Subs for a Grass move, I guess. |
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Can I??
I want to bulid a team based around Umbreon, because he's my favorite. Now all I need is everything, like moveset for said Umbreon, other party members, with moveset and recommended Natures, this is all for my challange of the Battle Frontier. Thanks in advance.
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I suppose you could, but you need a way to cover your obvious massive weakness to fighting :P
I'm not sure of exact movesets, but Crunch and Shadow Ball should definitely be in them, but apart from that I'm not too sure. |
What the best item for Lucario?
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Hey all, is this a good setup for cress?
Cresselia @ leftovers Sassy 252 def, 52 sp. def, 150 hp,50 sp. atk Calm mind Psychic Energy ball Shadow ball |
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Okay, moveset for Umbreon: Umbreon @ Leftovers / Bold Nature Synchronize EVs 252 HP 252 Defense 4 SDef Mean Look Baton Pass Curse Rest This moveset is to pass on to a different Pokemon, such as Snorlax. Curse until you're happy, Rest when needed, then pass away. Careful of Haze, though, although there isn't too much of that in the Battle Frontier, iirc. Snorlax @ Choice Band / Adamant Nature Immunity EVs 252 Atk 252 Defense 4 SDef Return Shadow Ball Earthquake Brick Break / Rest Okay, a lot of people probably want to shoot me for proposing that move set, but hear me out. After Curse has been passed, this thing will have a monstrous amount of attack. This is to be used AFTER Curse has been passed. You can choose Brick Break or Rest. The problem with using Rest is that it would be locked into using it, so Brick Break would probably be best. Now, since you have a double weakness to fighting: Alakazam @ Petaya / Lum Berry / Timid Nature Synchronize EVs No idea for this guy. >.> Psychic Calm Mind Thunder Punch Ice Punch A very strong sweeper, Psychic kills the fighting threat. I'm a noob when it comes to EVs, having never trainer a Pokemon in EVs. These are just suggestions, and the team doesn't really focus around Umbreon. The thing is, Umbreon is a tank / BPasser. Hope I helped. |
bah.. next time I won't say something else that's going to get people arguing, because they forget I asked for a set. =P
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are you just having fun with umbreon and trying to make it a competitor and such or wat its crucial that we get this info build around umbreon or build off him?
Umbreon Leftovers (for health regeneration) Modest nature 124 spatk ev's/132 defense ev's/124 spdef ev's/128 spd ev's Faint Attack Confuse Ray Toxic Psychic (Role: Nasty Tank) It can defend for itself and can cause some nasty damage as well confuse then poison. I know nobody would use an umbreon this way but sometimes its fun to use it this way mainly b/c everyone's choice is to use as a sub/toss and no attack moves what happens when your so called sweepers die maybe just maybe you need to rely on umbreon for a close finishing blow and with no attack for itself it's virtually useless. Alakazam Shell Bell (damage done can be rewarded) Modest Nature 252 spatk ev's/252 spd ev's/4 def ev's Psychic Thunderpunch Calm Mind Fire Punch (Role: Special Sweeper) Alakazam is one of my favorites b/c of the amazing speed and special attack. He is fast enough for the first strike and can finish them in one shot. He is not only my personal opinion but a recommendation and must have as a special sweeper in my mind. Use him for those pokemon that occasionally are known for low special defense like Rhydon for example and any fighting types. One flaw though he is subject to physical attacks but no worries he is fast enough to deal the damage needed. Primeape Shell Bell (same as Alakazam Adamant 252 atk ev's/252 spd ev's/4 def ev's Cross Chop Rock Slide Earthquake Bulk Up (Role: Physical Sweeper) Primape is the Physical Alakazam. He has amazing speed for a fighting type and can learn a wide range of physical attacks that can be very lethal. One major flaw to Primeape is his Defense all around very bad defense makes him a very easy target and can be eliminated quick if not careful but shouldn't have any worries. EV's may be a little mixed for umbreon but spd and special attack is needed for this team as well as defense. So anybody that doesnt like how umbreon is deal with it i just cant stand it when you teach a pokemon NO attack moves. Everyone is saying it's strategy but it only works if they're baton passed sweepers are faster and hopefully the sub stays up.(VERY RISKY) |
I would suggest first deciding which other Pokemon you would want to use before asking for advice. There are hundreds we could help you choose, and any we suggest might not be the one you are after. Plus, the remaining party members would depend on what role you want Umbreon to play. Each role has a different team that would affect its effectiveness.
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http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/7e/Spr_3e_197.gif Bold 252 Hp, 128 Defence, 128 Sp.Defence Wish Curse Baton Pass Taunt/Payback Taunt will stop people from stat upping while you use curse, payback will give you an attack to use if someone taunts you, up to you. Always use wish first, curse till wish activates, then repeat, in no time at all, you'll have +6 attack+Defense to pass onto a sweeper or tank or wtv you want. (NOTE:supporter moveset...) |
I need a team that can get me through either LG/FR or Emerald
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This is what I suggested to Tyranitar042 in a different thread:
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Magikarp Feebas Ratata Pidgey Bidoof Something like that? But seriously, no forward planning is needed to beat the game. The games are aimed at ages 3+ and have AI to match. Just play through it, catch the pokes you like, level up as much as possible and aim to hit for SE damage. |
It really depends on what he wants to get accomplished either do great in the frontier or not and just have fun with umbreon (since he said its his favorite im not sure that he wants to make it a supporter like everyone is making him)
Thank you for that team it helped alot and worked really good i have pokerus for my pokemon so it was really easy to ev train. SHANECDAVIS |
i need a final move for the empty slot of my donphan,i gave him choiceband to make you guys happy.for now i gave him strength cus i cant afford return,dont say rapidspin cus this don is for the BT
[email protected] adamant moves:iceshard rollout earthquake strength/need help(not rapid spin) oh yeh im not getin rid of roll out cus i think its wicked, |
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kyogre @ leftovers
modest 4 hp / 252 spa / 252 spe thunder ice beam surf calm mind groudon @ leftovers/life orb adamant 130 hp / 252 atk / 126 spe thunder wave earthquake dragon claw stone edge both of em are for uber battles rate :) |
Can someone help me out with my espeon.
Serious [email protected] don't really know the ev's current moveset shadow ball psychic substitute morning sun I was thinking of swapping out substitute for hp ice. I got substitute for annoyers using toxic, swagger, confuse ray, whirlpool, etc. but when up against a pokemon that's super effective against espeon or that has a strong atk, substitute fades in one hit and since it takes away hp, when I go to heal, a super effective move can sweep me. I would replace it with grass knot but already used it on another pokemon. any suggestions? |
kicking the habit
i was hacking pokemon for a while.( i know its bad) well i have started over and wsa wondering if anyone could give me any ideas for a competition team
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This belongs in Strategies and Movesets. (b'-')b
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And this belongs in the request a team, perhaps you should read our stickies too, and give us a general idea of what you'd like to accomplish for us to help you.
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id like the best options 4 a raindance team plz (excluding ludicolo)
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Best options are Swift Swimmers and Dry Skin pokemon...
Omastar, Kabutops, Kingdra, Ludicolo, Huntail, Gorebyss, Relicanth, Floatzel Most of these pokemon have average speed, so doubling it due to Rain can make sweepers out of tanks (Kabutops etc). Kingdra and Ludicolo are probably the main ones used in OU, some of the others are better off in UU but can survive if used right. Toxicroak is the only real Dry Skin useable pokemon, well one could opt for Parasect, but Spore isn't really that great on such a fragile pokemon. Now as for setting up Rain Dance, apart from the pokemon that actually take advantage of it (Ludicolo, Kingdra etc) you can use pokemon like Bronzong and Celebi to set the rain flowing, hell even Aerodactyl could use a suicidal rain dance set up if you want. |
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There has always only been one Life Orb in the game, people just decided to clone it a few times on the GTS.
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This belongs in the Request A Team / Individual Moveset thread, but seeing as how it's out of my section, I can't merge it there D: So I'll just move this over to Strategies & Movesets, and one of the mods there can merge it for you~
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Is this a good Battle Tower Team?
Tyranitar Nature: Adamant Moveset: Giga Impact - Massive damage and usually Last-chance KO Earthquake (PP MAX) - Basic Ground move, really helps Crunch (PP UP x 2) - Basic hitter, Pesky Psychics Rock Throw - Oh, right, Flying types... yeah, those are evil and for double-battles without hurting others Item: Life Orb Max. EV for Attack Idea: Depends on who I face. This Tyranitar gains a STAB boost for half of it's moves and KO-s most types in 1, maybe 2 hits. Giga Impact is a last-resort move if my Tyranitar is almost KO-d or that's the last enemy or when I feel overconfident. Earthquake is very basic and powerful, Crunch is a great move too, with STAB and item/EV/Nature boost, making it a very dangerous hit against Alakazam. Cresselia (Shiny) Nature: Calm Moveset: Psychic (PP MAX) - Basic Attack Substitute - What else am I going to annoy with? Toxic (PP UP) - The reason for Substitute and the PP UP is if that PkMn healed. Moonlight (PP MAX) - If Leftovers are too slow, use this Item: Leftovers MAX EV for Defense/Sp. Defense Idea: Well, it starts out with Toxic and then throws in a Substitute for damage resistance and then protects itself and heals with Leftovers and if the enemy destroyes the Sub, make a new one and heal with Moonlight, and sooner or later, Bad Poisoning will KO the other one and do a bit more damage with Psychic. Infernape Nature: Modest Moveset: Flamethrower (PP MAX)- Basic Fire move + STAB Nasty Plot- Sp. Attack boost, big hitter here Grass Knot (PP UP x 1) - Get rid of heavy fighters and Water/Ground/Rock types Focus Blast - gains STAB... Item: Expert Belt MAX EV for Sp. Attack/Speed, 4 for HP Idea: Starting off with Nasty Plot, Infernape gains a boost for all three moves, with Focus Blast and Flamethrower also having STAB. I replaced Close Combat due to lack of Nasty Boost for Focus Blast, even with unreliable accuracy, but it's a Blissey KO-er. When in doubt, bring out Flamethrower when it's HP is under 1/3rd, meaning, it gets STAB, Expert Boost, Nature/EV boost and Blaze to make it an Overheat that won't make you weaker! Tyranitar was my choice, Cresselia too, Infernape's idea was from Serebii. |
...You're aware that STAB Stone Edge does just as much as Giga Impact in one turn, and given that you can use Stone Edge twice in a row...
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I actually think that Calm Mind or Charge Beam would go better on Cresselia than Sub.
Lol @ Tyranitar. No Giga Impact please. I hate the recoil of that. Go with Dragon Dance>> it for DD Tar to tear up the Tower. Also, why throw silly little rocks at the little kids when you can tear them apart with Stone Edge? Infernape... I would say either go all-out Ape and try to get HP Electric/Ice on there if you can get it(check your IVs, pm me if you need an IV calc), or stick with this set and go LO>>EB. Also, if you can, try to max PP on everything. |
would this mix luke work or epically phail
lucario @ choice scarf lonely/quiet/naughty/mild 252 atk, 252 sp. atk 6 spe close combat shadow ball ice punch hp ????? |
I just thought of something,, What if i give my Carnivine Sword Dance then Baton Pass to my Staraptor? Since my Staraptor in Platinum is gonna be a physical sweeper, along with Choice Band, it should work right?
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I generally don't like passing stat ups to Choice Item users as they tend to be more hit and run Pokemon. Instead, throw Life Orb on that Staraptor.
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I was wondering if I can get help with movesets 4 a [email protected] leftovers ev: 252 def, 252 hp, 6 sp.atk and a Froslass(not sure on the spread) 252 sp.atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
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- Surf - HP Electric/Ice Beam/Grass knot - Stealth Rock/Knock Off (if you can get access to platinum)/Protect - Yawn/Toxic Froslass's moves should be (or can be) - Shadow Ball - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt/HP Fighting - Substitute/Destiny Bond/Psychic Choose the moves depending on what you want to counter and i hope it helps :D |
battle tower win streak:105 then i lost
now im trying to get a 100 streak with a rain dance team call me crazy but im bored please no hidden power hate breeding for those and no hp on any legend also [email protected] rock timid 252 spd;252sp.att;6hp thunder rain dance calm mind subsitute/shadow ball main idea is setup rain dance and sub to hide from status if ground switch to [email protected] orb(swift swim) modest 252sp.att;152hp;106spd (reason for this spread is after rd ill be out running everything in the battle tower) surf dragon pulse ice beam draco meteor/rain dance any suggestions for a third poke i was thinking [email protected] modest 252sp.att;100spd;158def thunder toxic roost ??? |
All right, I fixed it up a bit...
Tyranitar Nature: Adamant Moveset: NEW ATTACK: Stone Edge - Massive STAB and still as powerful as before. Earthquake (PP MAX) - Basic Ground move, really helps Crunch (PP UP x 2) - Basic hitter, Pesky Psychics NEW ATTACK: Dragon Dance - Yeah, I decided to give myself Dragon Dance, to a Attack boost. Sword Dance doesn't work on Tyranitar and I won't use PokeSAV. Speed Boost is minimal. Item: Life Orb Max. EV for Attack Idea: Depends on who I face, but usually Sandstorm is affective. This Tyranitar gains a STAB boost for all of it's moves and KO-s most types in 1, maybe 2 hits, and usually turns into a OHKO with Dragon Dance. Stone Edge replaces Giga Impact due to STAB boost and it also can be launched twice IF the attack won't miss. Earthquake is very basic and powerful, Crunch is a great move too, with STAB and item/EV/Nature boost, making it a very dangerous hit against Alakazam. Cresselia (Shiny) Nature: Calm Moveset: Psychic (PP MAX) - Basic Attack Substitute (PP MAX) - NOT CHANGED DUE TO: The fact that Substitute is my best stalling attack, which will leave me on the field for a few more turns. Toxic (PP UP x 2) - The reason for Substitute and the PP UP is if that PkMn healed. Moonlight (PP MAX) - If Leftovers are too slow, use this Item: Leftovers MAX EV for Defense/Sp. Defense Idea: Well, it starts out with Toxic and then throws in a Substitute for damage resistance and then protects itself and heals with Leftovers and if the enemy destroyes the Sub, make a new one and heal with Moonlight, and sooner or later, Bad Poisoning will KO the other one and do a bit more damage with Psychic. Infernape Nature: Modest Moveset: Flamethrower (PP MAX)- Basic Fire move + STAB Nasty Plot- Sp. Attack boost, big hitter here Hidden Power [Ice] (PP MAX) - Get rid of heavy fighters and Water/Ground/Rock types- no STAB boost, unfortunately. Focus Blast (MAX PP) - gains STAB... Item: Expert Belt MAX EV for Sp. Attack/Speed, 4 for HP Idea: Starting off with Nasty Plot, Infernape gains a boost for all three moves, with Focus Blast and Flamethrower also having STAB. I replaced Close Combat due to lack of Nasty Boost for Focus Blast, even with unreliable accuracy, but it's a Blissey KO-er. When in doubt, bring out Flamethrower when it's HP is under 1/3rd, meaning, it gets STAB, Expert Boost, Nature/EV boost and Blaze to make it an Overheat that won't make you weaker! |
Moonlight + Sand Stream = 25% Healing. :\ They don't mix at all.
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What other recovery move do you expect me to use? I can use PokeSAV to generate a stronger move (Recover), but I won't.
..... ........ [But that is a good idea.] .......... ....... .... Yeah, best not to hack up a Pokemon, I have a good enough Shiny Cresselia. |
Does anyone know a good moveset for a regirock gentle/sturdy body?
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Good moveset and evs and hold item for a Tangrowth?
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Impish 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Speed Power Whip Leech Seed Sleep Powder Knock Off Great set...When used correctly, It'll cause all kinds of havoc...Seeding, knocking items off, and putting stuff to sleep. |
I'm trying to build an UBER team, and due to my lack of knowledge in the uber tier, i need a litle help.
- I need to think up a good set for a mixed sweeping Giratina-O. Remember- only available item is Plat Orb. - EVs for Specs Palkia. - I also want to make sure i have the following sets with correct EVs and everything: [email protected] Leftovers Impish Nature 252 HP/ 144 Def/ 110 Atk Earthquake/Stone Edge Dragon Claw Rest Sleep Talk Arceus @ Iron Plate Calm Nature 252 HP/ 252 Sp. Def./ 6 Spa Judgment Ice Beam Recover Toxic/ T-Wave Thanks in advance! |
You're looking for a Giratina? Well, it gets a Ghost/Dragon boost from Platinum Orbe, so I'll give you a good hitter.
Draco Meteor (STAB) (EV) (ITEM) Thunder (EV) Hidden Power [Fire] (EV) Shadow Ball (STAB) (EV) (ITEM) Nature: Modest EV's 252 Hit Points/252 Sp. Attack/4 Defence Also, why does everyone use all points, I leave a few extra... Yes, I do that. |
This works kind of like a suicide lead
Celebi @ Leftovers / Focus Sash Bold 252 HP / 232 DEF / 20 Speed Stealth Rocks Thunder Wave Leech Seed Grass Knot / HP Ice Para the first guy, Stealth rock, leech seed, para etc. If you get statused, switching out is a very good tactic. The question is, does it work? |
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THe point is to cause switches to spread around twave, it brings down leads like zelf and aero. Leech seed is there to also CAUSE switches too, HP ice is for stupid grasses =_=
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Thought of this as a way to counter suicide leads...buuuuuut...will this work?
sableye @ life orb adamant 252 atk 252 hp 6 speed knock off (for sashes) shadow sneak/shadow claw ice punch thunderpunch or this... Mawile @ leftovers impish 252 def 252atk 6 hp ice punch thunderpunch knock off sucker punch |
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Yeah, it can work. You should give him more speed or you wont be able to outran anything.
something like this: 82atk/216sp.ark/216speed. Mild nature Close Combat Shadow Ball Hidden power ice /Ice punch if giving more attack EVs Stone Edge Pritty much Standard Choice Scarf Lucario. |
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Would this work at all as a lead?:
[email protected] Berry 252 hp/252 atk/6 Def Adamant/Early Bird - Sub - Brick Break - Ice Punch - Earthquake It's basically supposed to fill the role as Machamp, but I'm getting kind of sick of him. I see a lot of T-Tar leads these days, so I can set up a sub on the turn it DDs, then brick break on the second. Ice Punch is for gliscor and dragons, and EQ is for heatran wanting to switch in and ruin your fun. soo, would it work? I don't have time to test this out |
can some1 please help me out
battle tower win streak:105 then i lost now im trying to get a 100 streak with a rain dance team call me crazy but im bored please no hidden power never get the right one [email protected] rock timid 252 spd;252sp.att;6hp thunder rain dance calm mind subsitute/shadow ball main idea is setup rain dance and sub to hide from status if ground switch to [email protected] orb(swift swim) modest 252sp.att;152hp;106spd (reason for this spread is after rd ill be out running everything in the battle tower) surf dragon pulse ice beam draco meteor/rain dance [email protected] sash adamant swift swim stone edge waterfall sword dance x-scissor/brick break/aqua jet any other suggestions for a pokemon i can put in place of any !or improving it? |
You could use starmie with
[email protected] timid nature natural cure special atk252/spe252/special def 6 thunder icebeam Hydropump/surf grass knot/rapid spin dont use rapid spin in the BT,i just put it there because........? Grassknot for swampert,ice beam for grass types,water type moves for stab and rain power and thunder to be accurated by rain. overall i would keep kaboutops but this set is just if you prefer,you can also create a lapras set like this using icebeam surf/pump and thunder but ill let you find that one out yourself oh and finally,dragon pulse is not needed on kingdra cus you have icebeam. kingdra should have HPelectric but you dont want hidden power,if you try and get HPelectric,well lucky you |
All right, I'll work a Dialga one for you.
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Both those have Taunt and 3/4 moveslots are non attacking and both take lol damage from both HP ice and Grass Knot, so no you dont beat azelf and aero. Honestly there are much better suicide leads than celebi. But as a support pokemon (T-Wave/SR or Hp Ice/Grass Knot/Recover) is a great set, use it as a support poke and not a lead though. |
I want to build a supercute powerful team!
hulloo there. i've been playing diamond and pearl for over a year now and have completed pretty much everything i can do and am now trying to perfect my team for battle revoloution and for battling my friends via D/P i'd like quite a powerful all around team but as super cute as possible.
Any tips? Any good/cute pokemon you can think of? Any useful moves? Any help is welcomed. thank chooo.xx |
This belongs in Strategies and Movesets.
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thank choo :)
eh....it won't just let me say thank you...lol. so thank you thank you thank :D |
try a FEAR for your trump card.
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Consider Blissey cute? Blissey @ Leftovers Ability: Natural cure Nature: Calm EV's: 252 Def/ 80 SpAtk/1 76 SpD Moveset: Wish Protect / Softboiled Flamethrower / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt Toxic Hope that helps :/ ---------------- Listening to: The Prodigy - Smack My ***** Up via FoxyTunes |
very stupid question...
whats a fear? i'm an idiot aren't i?x and blissey is darn cute :) thank choo <3 |
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