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I need suggestions for three Pokemon on my UU team. I need a lead and 2 walls, one special and one physical. My three sweepers are NP Raichu, SD Scyther and a standard Hitmonlee. Any suggestions?
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Steelix (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Rock Head EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/136 SDef Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd) - Earthquake - Stealth Rock - Gyro Ball/Explosion - Roar/Explosion Works out quite well if I do say so myself. Special Wall: Well Hypno is typically considered the best special wall in UU, but Grumpig definitely deserves some consideration seeing as it can Calm Mind and boost its special sponging ability. For that same reason you should also consider Clefable... Clefable can also run a pseudo-Blissey set. Lead: Butterfree? Worth a shot... accurate double powder and all. ... just go to Smogon for the rest of those movesets. :p |
Hey guys.
Could someone help me out with sets for Electrode, Kabutops, Lanturn and Dewgong on a Rain Dance team? If anyone has suggestions for the last two members or possibly replacing one of the above pokemon, I'm all ears. =) |
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I'm familiar with the the first two, so I can help you there. [email protected] Sash/Damp Rock Static ll Hasty 228 Spd/252 Atk/28 Sp.A -Taunt -Rain Dance -Explosion -Thunder [email protected] Life Orb Swift Swim ll Adamant 252 Atk/176 Spd/80 HP -Sword Dance -Waterfall -Stone Edge -Brick Break/X-Scissor |
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I'm wondering what a good moveset for a Togekiss would be (for competitive battling). I know I'd want Serene Grace and probably maxed out Sp. Attack to go with Air Slash, but then what else? I'm considering Flamethrower for Ice-types, and maybe Rest and Snore (the problem being that Snore adds another Normal-type attack). Then I think I'd have Salamence or Tyranitar with Earthquake for backup. Maybe U-turn would make sense, as I doubt I'll use too many moves other than Air Slash. Thanks in advance!
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Good moveset for a SpecsVaporeon? I need to replace my terrible SpecsMilotic.
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Vaporeon isnt meant to be a Specs'er. It's best as a Wish passer / Physical Wall.
Specs Kingdra works quite well though if you want a Specs Water poke... |
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Modest 252Def/252SpAtt/6Spd Surf Ice Beam HP Electric Hydro Pump/Wish Standard specs vaporeon iirc. |
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But thanks for the moveset :) |
How is it illegal? 252+252+6 = 510. the 2 extra dont matter but there's nothing wrong in typind those
And if its Specs it should be Max Speed to make sure it gets a hit >> |
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252+252+6=510, which =Legal |
252/252/6 is legal, bro. You're allotted a max of 510 EVs, not 508.
EDIT: I am slow. |
What about my Togekiss moveset?
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Togekiss @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Modest Nature EVs: 252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe - Nasty Plot - Roost - Air Slash - Aura Sphere Alternatively, for a Choice Specs set: Togekiss @ Choice Specs Ability: Serene Grace Modest Nature EVs: 64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe - Air Slash - Flamethrower - Aura Sphere - Tri Attack/ Shadow Ball/ Hyperbeam (Use with extreme caution, may give opponent easy set-up time) |
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[email protected]/Lum Berry Modest 252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP Air Slash Aura Sphere Roost Nasty Plot Alternatively you could strap on a choice item (Specs or scarf) and put flamethrower and either tri attack, shadow ball or HP ice over the two bottom slots. EDIT: Sniped :P EDIT EDIT: Ambients EV spread is better for the NP sweeper set btw |
Lol I beat everyone by one minute ^^
EDIT: Now i lose by 3 XD Dont worry Farasha, everyone makes mistakes :P For Malch: You can use the FlinchHax set on Smogon with T-Wave and Air Slash for abuse. But for Sweeping consider the NP set or even this one: Togekiss (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Hustle EVs: 154 HP/252 Atk/104 Spd Naughty nature (+Atk, -SDef) - Extremespeed - Flamethrower - Grass Knot - Roost May seem gimmicky, but dont be fooled, this has more Attack than a Lucario! You sweep with Extremespeed and the other two moves. Aura Sphere could go over Roost in the last slot to deal with TTar and Heatran... I tested this and it nets SOOO many revenge kills |
Right now I'm building a team and having a bit of trouble: (I'm trying to make a team for a AgiliGross Sweep)
[email protected] 56 hp/200 sAtk/252 spe Timid - Sub - Leech Seed - HP Fire - Leaf Storm [email protected] 252 hp/252 def/6 sAtk - Surf - Calm Mind - Ice Beam - HP Electric Basically sub seed in the beginning, draining my opponents lead. It also does well against Aero, Azelf, etc. Water/Grass is a classic combo to absorbing attacks. Now, I realize [email protected] Scarf with thunderbolt and HP Ice can destory this, but either than that i need to help not build up weaknesses. Any suggestions? and this is the Metagross is the one i'm using: [email protected] Orb 252 atk/208 spe/44 hp Adamant - Agility - Meteor Mash - Earthquake - Thunder Punch Right now my team covers (somewhat) Skarmory, Bulky Waters, Dragons, Scizor (ish), and some other things. |
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Togekiss @ Leftovers/Lum Berry Modest Nature Serene Grace 252 HP/152 SPATK/104 SPD Nasty Plot Roost Air Slash Aura Sphere First and foremost, MAKE SURE YOU'VE REMOVED ENEMY ZAPDOS AND ROTOM FORMES BEFORE SETTING THIS UP. Also, it'd be better if you've cleared out/paralyzed enemy LOGar, or any opposing electrics. Anyways, use Togekiss's bulk and Nasty Plot to raise his SPATK to sky-high levels. Air Slash/Aura Sphere provides an attacking combination resisted only by Zapdos and the Rotoms. Leftovers for recovery, and Lum Berry is a one time cure for paralysis/toxic, both of which screw Toggy up. Togekiss @ Choice Specs Modest Serene Grace 64 HP/252 SPATK/192 SPD Air Slash Aura Sphere Flamethrower Tri Attack/Shadow Ball Specs Togekiss. Air Slash and Aura Sphere, as usual, are his two main attacks. Flamethrower destroys steels. For the last slot, you can go Tri Attack for secondary STAB, or Shadow Ball to hit incoming Rotoms. Paraflinch (Thunder Wave/Air Slash) is still his most popular set, but nobody here would really recommend it; as Anti put it, the concept of the set is "hey, let's win thru hax instead of prediction!" |
Thanks for your help, Ambient, Gofre, Pysncrono and Fabian. The NP Sweeper looks good:
Togekiss @ Leftovers Serene Grace Modest Nature 252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe - Nasty Plot - Roost - Air Slash - Aura Sphere But if I wanted to hack with Thunder Wave, would I take out Aura Sphere or Nasty Plot? |
Taking out Nasty Plot would remove it's ability to Nasty Plot (which it needs to have if it's going to be a Nasty Plot sweeper, Obviously)
Taking out either Aura Sphere or Air Slash would remove your coverage and taking out roost would remove your ability to heal. If your sticking with this kind of set, thunder wave has no place on it. |
Okay, sorry to bother everyone with so many questions, but now I'm building an UU team and I need two more Pokemon to round it out. I'm mostly looking for a wall. Here's my team so far:
[email protected], Timid (4 HP/252 Spe/252 SpA) Ice Beam Substitute Thunder Wave Spikes [email protected] Orb, Hasty (36 Atk/220 Spe/252 SpA) Crunch Flamethrower Thunderbolt HP Grass [email protected], Impish (252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def) Earthquake Roar Toxic Spikes Stealth Rock [email protected] Specs, Timid (252 Spe, 252 SpA, 252 SpD) HP Electric Energy Ball Overheat Dark Pulse Any suggestions? Like I said, I'm looking mainly for a wall, also anything you think the team is missing, also tell me if I'm being silly and making a useless team. I'm still very new at this (as my loltastic post above shows). |
Hmm, you're looking for a special wall mainly, and although I'd suggest Grumpig/Hypno, it would only add to the ghost/dark weak. Use a Cosmic Power Clefable, it causes switches which are IMMENSELY helpful seeing your hazard team. For your last poke I suggest a Swellow or DDAltaria as you need a Ground immune seeing your 3x Ground weak.
Hope that helped :) |
Need some help deciding if I should use SD Toxicroak or SD Absol. Toxicroak is nice and all, but its Sucker Punch is weaker, and even its STAB Cross Chop is weaker than Absol's Superpower (in terms of damage output)
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Id say it depends on your teammates weaknesses and stuff like speed and raw power. If you want raw power that can take out a few pokes before dying, go with Absol. If you are water weak and RD teams are giving trouble, go with Toxicroak.
Toxicroak has better "longevity" though, it can take a few unboosted hits and retaliate back. SubPunching set is just great for that kind of play. We all know Absol's merits, its like a Garchomp with crap defenses( ok a watered down Chomp). So yeah its up to you... although for bulky sweepers Kanga and Poliwrath are much better. |
Okay everyone, can anybody give me a good moveset & strategy for a Cloyster?
Its stats are Docile Nature Lv. 100 HP: 219 Attack: 205 Defense: 449 Sp. Atk: 236 Sp. Def: 122 Speed: 180. Ability: Skill Link. |
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I think you mean a +Def nature. Cloyster isnt really a good spinner or wall seeing it dies to any Special attack. Claydol is far better as it take no damage from Spikes / TS and 6 from SR, can use Shadow Ball to deal with anti-spin and use SR |
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hi,yo.which is the best for tower tycoon palmers second team milotic or starmie
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Actually I swept all of his guys excpet cresselia with garchomp's choice banded outrage. Cresselia was toast from two of T-Tar's crunches. |
Let me note, now that we have a thread dealing with the Battle Tower, take anything & everything concerning such over there. It was made to avoid cluttering up this stickie, so keep that in mind.
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Even though not many people have Platinum yet, Scizor is starting to get me PO'd already. Can someone give me a reliable NON PLATINUM way to stop him?
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A number of ways.
Heatran: 4x Bullet Punch resist. Just be careful of Brick Break/ Superpower Gyarados: Resists Bullet Punch and X-Scissor, and has Intimidate. Zapdos: Even without Heat Wave, STAB Thunderbolt hurts. Although Heat Wave is easily obtainable if you trade to someone with Platinum... Hippowdon: Bulky, and can force Scizor out with Roar. Infernape: Resists Bullet Punch, and can hit back with Flamethrower/ Fire Punch. Very frail, though. Shedinja: Immune to Bullet Punch, X-Scissor, BB/ Superpower, and Quick Attack. Can hit back with WoW. |
What kind of Zapdos are we talking about here? I have a Timid one (even though I think it's IVs are probably crap)? Basically, could I get a set for it?
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Keep in mind that Heat Wave is an important part of these sets, so removing it puts Zapdos in a slightly weaker position...
Zapdos @ Life Orb/ Leftovers Timid 252 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 6 HP - Thunderbolt - Heat Wave/ Thunder Wave?/ AncientPower? - Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice - Roost Zapdos @ Choice Specs Timid 176 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 80 HP - Thunderbolt - Heat Wave/ Thunder Wave?/ AncientPower? - Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice - U-Turn If you really want to use Zapdos, just send it to someone with Platinum to put Heat Wave on it. Although in either case, you'd need to hack the proper IVs on him for HP Ice/ Grass. |
looking for mix spiritomb wall set
also im looking for a flareon physical set |
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252 HP / 106 DEF / 156 SP.DEF Calm Nature - Shadow Ball - hidden Power fighting - Rest - Sleep talk OR [email protected] 252 HP / 144 Att/ 112 SP.DEF Careful Nature - Will-o-wisp - Pain Split - Sucker Punch - Taunt / Pursuit [email protected] Band 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spe Adamant Nature - Super Power - Fire Fang - Return - Bite / Quick Attack |
whats a set for a bold spiritomb since thats all i have and i can't breed another... mixed wall
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Is there such thing as a special attacking choice scarf salamence?
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Eh, just seeing if I could get a physical houndoom...
Houndoom @ Muscle Band Adamant/Naive 252Atk/252Spe/6hp - Howl - Thunder Fang - Fire Fang - Crunch/Iron Tail Meh, Probably screwed up bad... Help? Oh and can someone help me with an Ambipom set? |
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[email protected] Band 252 ATT /252 SPEED / 6 HP Jolly Technician ~ Return ~ Focus Punch / Brick Break ~ Payback ~ Fake Out / U-turn / Fire Punch or [email protected] 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe Timid Technician ~ Baton Pass ~ Nasty Plot ~ Swift ~ Thunderbolt / Taunt / Substitute or [email protected] Orb 252 ATT /252 SPEED / 6 HP Jolly Technician ~ Fake Out ~ U-turn ~ Brick Break ~ Payback / Return =p |
meh, if you're going to try a pure physical set, it's not easy at all.
[email protected] Berry Adamant/Lonely or Jolly/Hasty 252atk/252speed/6HP Endure/Substitute Reversal Crunch Howl/Fire Blast Sub/Endure Reversal is your best shot at a physical set. Getting a Howl in the switch-in, Sub or Endure as you see fit, activate Salac Berry at 1HP, then sweep (Hopefully). If you go Fire Blast, that'll get rid of big steels, although you might have to invest in some special attack to do notable damage. Sub protects you from status, but Endure makes Stealth Rock/Spikes unable to ruin your plan. Sandstorm or Hail ruin both sets, unfortunately. Therefore, get a weather changer if you dare try this. |
still looking for a bold spiritomb set as a mix wall
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[email protected] Bold 252HP/252Def/6HP Rest Sleep Talk Calm Mind Dark Pulse Mono-attacker. More defence, less coverage. The sets D_A listed are generally more effective. |
Hey, what's a good lead that can counter Aerodactyl and Azelf leads? I've been considering Bullet Punch CBGross, but that obviously dies to both.
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Also there are fake out anti leads (e.g ape and weavile) and Meteor Mash + BP Lead gross does it too. Azelf also looses to tar. However preventing them setting up sr is a tough task. |
Can I get a moveset for Honchkrow?
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I got an UT Palkia and I'm interested to go with the "Mixed Attacker" set that's on Smogon.
Thing is, my Palkia is Naive (+Spd / -Sp.Def) instead of Hasty (+Spd / -Def) IVs: 1/24/3/30/14/30 Is it really a pain ?! |
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Airconditioning, I usually let them set up their SR and faint (Baiting and Predicting an explosion from Azelf). Afterwards, I will just resort to spinning. If you must, Adamant LO Fake Out & Ice Shard Weavile can take out both without letting them move, iirc. It can also make a half decent Revenge killer for later on. It has troubles with the new Metagross Leads, though. Your choice. :D Reese, you may want to elucidate the sort of moveset that you wish to use? It just has quite a lot of options, ta. |
Thanks a lot dudes ;)
I was thinking of the pretty same setup as Smogon... PALKIA @ Lustrous Orb / Life Orb 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Atk - Surf - Thunderbolt (instead of Thunder) - Spatial Rend - Aqua Tail It'll be used on an Uber-rain-team with Kyogre |
AC, Metagross actually does a great job at owning Azelf and Aero. I use this;
[email protected] *FACE!!* Adamant 204HP/76atk/224sp.def Meteor Mash Bullet Punch Stealth Rock Earthquake I can't stress how many people don't expect this, but this thing owns both Aero and Azelf rather easily. Meteor Mash + Bullet Punch crushes Azelf, and 2 Bullet Punches brings Aero down, but you might lead with Mash anyway to trick sash leads. Don't Stealth Rock until AFTER you eliminate their lead or scare it off. It's too vulnerable to Taunt to not lead with an attack, and the first turns are crucial. If you Meteor Mash a Taunting Azelf, it's ruined. The copious amount of special defense is to deter Fire Blast, as well as being a better check to Gengar. It's designed to survive something like an Overheat from Heatran, so you should be fine on all accounts. |
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airconditioning: I think that the only way to prevent Suicide leads from setting up is being faster and Taunting them. I dont think that there is anyother way you can stop SR. But then again you can always pack a spinner so..
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As for the spinner issue, I'm not sure I can spare it. I use Slowbro on my team (non-negotiable), so Starmie would only add to the number of weaknesses he carries. Donphan looks interesting, as does Tentacruel (if only I could get Rapid Spin and Knock Off on the same set...). Any suggestions? |
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Donphan @ Leftovers Impish (252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def) -Rapid Spin -Ice Shard -Earthquake -Fire Fang/Knock Off I chose Fire Fang >> Knock Off on my Donphan because I ran a Tangrowth with Knock Off and didn't want repetition. Like I said, the CB set has worked better for me, but if you like this set and can make it work, more power to you. |
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But, uh, I'm still stuck on what Heatran moveset to use... Taunt or Burn support.... That is the question..... NOTE: Don't ask what my team is, I've just been training pokemons 1-by-1, in the hopes of making multiple teams at once.... |
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can someone give me a summary for this et that i came up with
[email protected] choice scarf intimidate hasty nature/rash/mild spe 252/atk 128/spA 128 overheat/fire blast/flamethrower dragonpulse ironhead extremespeed/crunch overheat blast or thrower for stab.dragon pulse for dragons,iron head to held agains rocks extreme speed for finishing of weakend scarfchomp and crunch for gengar and maybe alakasm or dusknoir.good init i think that white herb can be used on my set but swell |
which is better and why on porygon-z???
download or adaptibility? |
Adaptability, the extra STAB is nice and you rarely switch your special sweeper in on pokes with high SpDef stats.
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Change Dragon Pulse for THunder Fang. Anti-water, bulkies would either get a 2HKO by that. Keep Iron head. And for the Crunch vs. Extremespeed... Go for Crunch. Quote:
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Bad EV spread, mixed arcanine wants 228Att/92SpAtt/188Spd to outrun tyranitar. Iron head is moot, and arcanine has enough trouble with coverage as it is. Switch it for HP Grass or Electric for bulky waters. Grass if swampert bothers you, electric if gyara does. Mixed arcanine also wants two STAB moves to take on walls of both sides of the spectrum. Overheat for the first slot, with flare blitz over extreme Speed (Which can brought in over dragon pulse) Quote:
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thanks its a sub salac so i think ill go for adaptibility :)
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Sub Salac Porygon-Z? That sounds like a horrible idea. He gets Agility, and runs an excellent Choice Scarf set (where he needs as much coverage as he can get). Why not use one of those?
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AC, the meta set I use is very bulky and can come to serve as a good platform against some special attacks later in the game. Lead Aero has a tough time dealing with that set, and Azelf's Fire Blast won't OHKO you either except for a critical hit. It also gives you some very useful priority that can be abused.
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I've been using the following team on Shoddy for about a week, and it's been working out pretty well. I'd like to start building it in my Diamond game soon, but it still has plenty of flaws.
Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash Thick Fat Careful 168 HP / 120 Def / 220 SpD - Curse - Body Slam - Fire Punch - Selfdestruct Zapdos @ Leftovers Pressure Bold 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe - Roost - Thunderbolt - Heat Wave - Roar Scizor @ Life Orb Technician Adamant 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe - Swords Dance - Bullet Punch - Superpower - X-Scissor The main problem is it's overall weakness to fighting. I think I should replace either Blissey or Snorlax with a Dusknoir or Gengar, and maybe replace the other with something else. Thoughts? |
switch snorlax to dusknoir/gengar as you already have a special wall and selfdestruct isnt exactly effective!evrything else looks good.
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I just restarted Pokemon Emerald, and I would really like to know you guys' opinions of what the absolute best team in Emerald is (based on knowledge and evidence of course). By this, I mean Pokemon that can be found natively in Emerald, so I won't have to use adapters to import any of the Pokemon.
I really appreciate it guys. P.S: I haven't chosen a starter Pokemon yet, so please also feel free to mention the best one in your opinions. |
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If there was a best team, we'd all be using it. If you're playing in-game then anything is the best team. Just play through with the pokes you like, in-game play isn't difficult at all.
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Maybe run Restalk Machamp over Curselax? Keep in mind that Blissey could only obtain Wish via an event, so you can't get it on Diamond. |
Is there an EV spread/moveset for a Subpunch Snorlax, or is that just outclassed by other ones?
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I wanted to just use and Eevee without evolving it, since I am going to breed more. But anyway here is the move set I had thought up for my Eevee:
Shadow Ball so it can combat Ghost Type, then Mimic So it could copy a fighting type move since I have no other attack strong against fighting, then Trump Card since it is a good powerful normal attack. Finally I was thinking about Facade. Is my choice move set too spread out? Is there something you guys could suggest to me? I am not evolving this Eevee because like I said I am breeding others to evolve...I wanted to try and use just an Eevee. thanks |
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Secondly, evees stats are terrible. It gets an incredible power-up from evolving. See this page here: http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/pokedex/evee I don't reccommend keeping Evee at all. Evolve it. It's way too weak. But that aside, Trump Card is a pathetic move. It powers up too slowly, by that time you would have been tottalled already. Even at that point, don't expect a sweep or anything, it's a one time super powered use. Another thing: Mimic is unrealiable. If you want to combat Fighting types, well, you can't. Evee's limited moveset means that it has to evolve to be of any use. I reccomend anything except for Flareon. Facade is nice attack, but you won't really know when you're gonna get stataused next, though. But still a nice STAB move. |
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Eevee *Baton Passer?*@ Leftovers Adapability Jolly 252 HP / 252 Sp Def - Baton Pass - Wish - Curse - Yawn/Return Well, the ability is a nice one, but that's about the only piece of candy Eevee has for you. Curse for some much needed Atk & Def and Baton Pass it onto a much more stable team-member. Return will do some sort of damage after a Curse-up, coupled with its ability. Too bad getting a Curse and a Return in would be almost a miracle.. Wish is there because it wants to be. Someone.. anyone.. be my guest at coming up with a better set. |
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Plenty of people have been supplied with in-game movesets here, I really don't see the harm. Pokemon's not all competitive, correct? So if I want to use a Totodile in my game and not evolve it, I should be able to request a decent moveset for him. |
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I've been using this guy as an Anti-lead for a while, wanted to know what you guys thought of it.
Weavile @ Focus Sash Jolly Nature 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP Fake Out Ice Shard Night Slash Taunt/BrickBreak Weavile does a great job of breaking sash leads, especially Azelf and Aero. Fake Out stops the sash, then weavile can either Ice SHard Aero or Night Slash Azelf to death. Since Weavile outspeeds Azelf, I get the advantage over it. I want to use Ice Punch, but Aero can outspeed Weavile, meaning that without Ice Shard, Vile's purpose is ruined against Aero. |
It doesn't really matter, he means no harm. Just move on from it.
Occasionally, if someone wanted to use a specific Pokemon which is too weak for competition, then I suppose we should reccomend an ingame moveset at least, y'know, at least not to leave the guy hanging. But we should also reccomend a competetive alternative. My two cents. Don't worry about it. @Scarfchomp That Anti-lead is specific against just two of the top twenty leads isn't too much of a good idea, unless you have other Pokemon in your party who can defeat their purpose. For example, it does absolutely nothing to common leads like: Infernape, Tyranitar (without Brick Break), Hippowdown (again, without brick break), Metagross, Gyarados and Salamence, just to name a few. So, it's good at what it does but not good at much else. |
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Also, I don't see how Weavile having Brick Break helps Weavile overcome Hippowdon when it has no STAB and Hippowdon is a Physical Behemoth. |
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You even capitalised it! That was nice of you. Well you won't see me in this sub-forum again. You're all too serious, and whenever I've asked for some sets in the past, I've either been supplied with a half-arsed copy+paste from Smogon or nothing at all. After all this, I think I might start using NFEs more, even in battles. Just a little bit of advice: Try not to let the competitiveness fill your head with stubbornness. You might end up pushing all the enjoyment away. |
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When he called you a kid, he didn't mean it litterally. He just meant it as an expression, that's just his prefference of speech. You shouldn't go with any smart arse comments, that's the stuff that gets you infracted. Considering it's such a petty matter, it's not worth it. As for people copy and pasting from smogon, prove yourself and post some links. I haven't seen much. But I do agree its a stupid lack of originality, but what can you do? It's still nothing to whine about. I don't mind you, you seem like a nice guy who's a tad too hot headed, don't take offense. Just ease up a little, eh? |
Hi could anyone suggest a special sweeper set for my Espeon? Thabks I did this one but im not sure about it.....
Timid nature with life orb 252 satk/252 spd/ 4def Psychic grass knot batton pass (needed to escape pursuit) ????? no idea what to use..... thanks for the help :) |
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Psychic Baton Pass Calm Mind Shadow Ball Put the baton pass to use if you're going to try to escape pursuit, use calm mind and pass the special attack and defense stats onto someone else. |
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I noticed one thing, doesnt the above set leave you with no ability to hit dark types, with espeons speed you may stand a chance of sweeping weakened dark types before they hit you) |
Espeon has no way of fending itself from darks. It has nothing super effective against them. And there are alot of Pokemon with Night Slash or Crunch. I'd keep Shadow Ball as insurance against Ghosts. Grass Know won't be needed by you much. As for darks, you can't do a thing with espeon, apart from baton passing the hell out of there before they can pursuit.
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Oh I see....thanks :) I though hidden power may be viable but ok :)
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Espeon has Hidden Power Fighting, which deals with all dark types.
For the love of crap, as air said, this is a compettitive forum. We give compettitive advice. Anything, absolutley anything works ingame. ANYTHING. As airconditioning said, a team of 6 Magikarp can decimate the Elite 4. Get over it. People copypasta Smogon because their sets works. You recommend what works, not to be original for originality's sake. We're getting an awful lot of whiny emos nowadays. |
Wow, some people just cant read the rules here can they. They clearly state that this is a competitive forum if you would care to look. <----This is directed at EVERYONE.
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Thanks. |
Meh, for a little cup team...
Meowth @ wise glasses Timid/Modest/Tecnician 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 hp -Taunt -Nasty Plot -Shock Wave/Fake Out -Water Pulse/Icy Wind/Hidden power(Fire) (for steels only) |
lol take a look at this:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3338641&postcount=562 From way back when hahaha. Either way, I actually have that EV trained (252 HP / 196 Def / 56 SAtk / 4 SDef) and at level 71 (who knew lol) and I have it ready to go. However, I wanted some advice on the moveset since Resttalk seems a little silly to me (resttalk was the original intention). I was thinking either Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Toxic/[email protected] Berry or Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Rest/Sleep Talk (the same thing as I originally intended, basically). I'm kind of half and half on it since the Toxic one obviously does more damage with Toxic stalling, but the resttalker will last longer and will probably get Leftovers recovery (depending on what I use it with since the frontier uses item clause). Your thoughts? I mean I can change it essentially at will, so I'm ready to hear your opinions =D NOTE: The battle frontier is from the 3rd generation so no DP(P) suggestions or I'll go July 2007 on you. |
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Your right about the originality bit though, I just wanted something a little off the wall (Physical clefable?) to make my oppoment go WTF?! while they lose in spectacular fashion. I have read a few smogon pages and his advice seems good but I simply look for other opinions before I start searching and breeding for a max IV,perfect nature shiny to ev for my team (im picky....). Again im sorry if you thought that was for in game, was it really that bad? lol :) |
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