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Serious August 16th, 2008 4:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by . t R U T H (Post 3861257)
Being an Admin or a Mod on another forum (or any forum) doesn't mean jack. I could be an Admin or a Mod on another forum and still be crap at battling.

Yes I know, but he said id only been on for a month so I took that as saying I have no experience.

Come on gofre, you wanted me to make a moveset? what pokemon?

El Gofre August 16th, 2008 4:49 AM

As I said to you via PM (Two conversations at once is awefully confusing =]) I would like you to compose an RMT so that we can rate your competetive knowledge.

Serious August 16th, 2008 4:57 AM

Very well gofre my team is as follows...

[email protected] sash
Speed boost

Protect
Sword dance
Batton pass
X-sicssor

Simple emough, swords dance, protect, batton pass away with speed boost and attack increase.

[email protected] band adamant nature
Sandstream

Crunch
Stone edge
Earthquake
Pursuit

Simple enough

[email protected] timid nature (what? hard to get legit jirachis in england with a good nature ya know!)
Serene grace

Healing wish
Wish
U-turn
Zen headbut

Use wish and u-turn out. Perhaps use healing wish to revive pokemon if nessacery. has been used to bring back ninjask for more batton passing speed.

[email protected] (Timid nature)
Natural cure

Rapid spin
Ice beam
Grass knot
Surf

Rapid spinner/ special sweeper

[email protected] orb
Levitate

Psychic
Nasty plot
Flame thrower
Explosion

Nast plot, sweep, explode when done

[email protected]
Scrappy

Heal bell
Milk drink
Toxic
Body slam

used to use Blissey but she is way overused, miltank is a new addition to my team.

Might not be to your taste my Ou team but it works for me :)

Ohh...have not got my ds with me and I cant remember all the natures....sorry :)

Sora_8920 August 16th, 2008 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serious (Post 3861292)
Very well gofre my team is as follows...

[email protected] sash
Speed boost

Protect
Sword dance
Batton pass
X-sicssor


Simple emough, swords dance, protect, batton pass away with speed boost and attack increase.

[email protected] band
Sandstream

Crunch
Stone edge
Earthquake
Pursuit

Simple enough

[email protected]
Serene grace

Healing wish
Wish
U-turn
Zen headbut

Use wish and u-turn out. Perhaps use healing wish to revive pokemon if nessacery. has been used to bring back ninjask for more batton passing speed.

[email protected]
Natural cure

Rapid spin
Ice beam
Grass knot
Surf

Rapid spinner/ special sweeper

[email protected] orb
Levitate

Psychic
Nasty plot
Flame thrower
Explosion

Nast plot, sweep, explode when done

[email protected]
Scrappy

Heal bell
Milk drink
Toxic
Body slam

used to use Blissey but she is way overused, miltank is a new addition to my team.

Might not be to your taste my Ou team but it works for me :)

Eww, Ninjask. Focus Sash fails as weather screws with it. (Hail and Sandstorm for Ninjask).

Serious August 16th, 2008 5:05 AM

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Originally Posted by . t R U T H (Post 3861309)
Eww, Ninjask. Focus Sash fails as weather screws with it. (Hail and Sandstorm for Ninjask).

Yes I have noticed that s If weather is in place forget swords dance, just protect and batton pass away.

I did breifly consider Loppuny to pass speed and use switcheroo but decided against it, she (or he 0.O) is not a fast plus no item usage works against it

El Gofre August 16th, 2008 6:29 AM

The sets are fine, but lucario in general isnt very kind to this team- 2 Dark weaks with only one resist who is quad weak to it's main STAB, 2 fight weaks (One of which being quad) and only a frail ninjask as resist make it a menace. A lack of special wall leaves you particularly vulnerable to Specs Variants. A focus sash bearer and sandstreamer don't go well together. Should you lose azelf skarmory will also plague you, with only starmie's rather underpowered Surf capable of putting any dent in it (An EV'd one can only 2HKO it).

My advice would be to bring in a special wall, since nothing can cope with special hits at the moment. I would also lose tyranitar for a faster physical sweeper who isnt reliant on Speed passes to function, and one that doesnt screw over your sash either.

Divine~Deoxys August 16th, 2008 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3861486)

My advice would be to bring in a special wall, since nothing can cope with special hits at the moment. I would also lose tyranitar for a faster physical sweeper who isnt reliant on Speed passes to function, and one that doesnt screw over your sash either.

I own't offer you a special wall,as i am reknowned for rubbsih sets for walls,but i do have physical sweeper for you.it doesn't need Ninjask's speed boosts,but if it had thme,it ouwld be uber-fast.

Weavile @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
252atk,252spd,4hp
Night Slash
Brick Break
Ice Punch
???????(sorry guys,i used to know it coz i used to use Weavile,but waht is the fourth move in a ScarfVile?)

El Gofre August 16th, 2008 10:21 AM

Weavile is already really fast, a choice scarf is pointless and only limits its strength and coverage.

Divine~Deoxys August 16th, 2008 1:52 PM

Oh yeah,i forgot that it does cripple it.I actually use lefties.I sjut tyoped that up really fast.The fourtyh sklot is Slash.

Weavile @ Leftovers
Jolly
4hp,252atk,252spd
Night Slash
Brick Break
Slash
Ice Punch

That's the one

DragonLordAL August 16th, 2008 2:04 PM

need an EV spread for an Adamant Jirachi. would prefer if spe evs were absent.
IVs are as follows
22hp
31atk
31def
3spatk
27sdef
15spe(i think. its pretty low in my opinion.)

Thanks in advance

The Hero Without a Name August 16th, 2008 3:50 PM

Might wanna put Pursuit in the last slot (and stick a choice band on it)... or Swords Dance.

El Gofre August 16th, 2008 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiddo999 (Post 3862573)
Oh yeah,i forgot that it does cripple it.I actually use lefties.I sjut tyoped that up really fast.The fourtyh sklot is Slash.

Weavile @ Leftovers
Jolly
4hp,252atk,252spd
Night Slash
Brick Break
Slash
Ice Punch

That's the one

You see, now you've gone wrong again. First off, slash is a really basic choice on weavile- It offers 0 coverage and is outclassed by nightslash for Crits and STAB. Second off is that weavile is one of the frailest sweepers going, leftovers is ultimately pointless.

sims796 August 16th, 2008 5:19 PM

That was funny. I thank Gofre for bringing this to my attention. Serious, yeah, cut your arrogance, it makes you look foolish. You say IV breeding takes forever? As Gofre said, at most, it takes a good hour or two. A week tops, and that's when you do it an hour a day. People like me? Ya never played me before, never played on wi-fi, and you know it all, huh? You experience is very limited. As I always say, if the world is saying one thing, and only one person is saying another without any real proof, most likely, that one person is wrong. Every good battler knows the importance of EV's & IVs. Only n00bs & retards don't, and mouth off about how it's not. Nothing but hot air.

Nice team, shame it fails without proper training.


*It has come to my attention that retards do in fact know the importance of EV/IV training. I apologise to all retarded, mentally ill, & termally bed-ridden out there.


Your team is Mixape weak, by the way. No real walls, easy to sweep.


EDIT: I R T3H MODZ @ T3H LOOZAR SIET!!!!11!!!11

Divine~Deoxys August 17th, 2008 2:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonLordAL (Post 3862595)
need an EV spread for an Adamant Jirachi. would prefer if spe evs were absent.
IVs are as follows
22hp
31atk
31def
3spatk
27sdef
15spe(i think. its pretty low in my opinion.)

Thanks in advance

What do you want your Jirachi to do?If you want a defensive set,i'm definitely not the person you uwa t noe off,Gofre or Sims might be better at that.attacking?

252sp.stk/atk (physical or special?)
148hp
108sp.def

I'm nto that good,but that' s what i think'll work if you don't want speed.Full EVs on the attackingf stat of choice,plus a little bit of bulking up.Oh,and Sims,i'm not one of those retards who odn't realise the importance of IV/EV training,i tire EV trainging,its hard,but i can do it,bug=t i dont have wi-fi and cant get it,so jsut because i odnt od it odesn't mean i'm a retard.In fact,i try for crappy natures and IVas when i play the gameas to amke it a little challenging again.What should be in the fourth slot for Weavile?Pursuit?I knw its good on Ttar,is it any good on Vile?

Dark Azelf August 17th, 2008 4:24 AM

Yes its good on weavile, its either that or your stuck with Aerial Ace.


Pretty much


[email protected] Scarf
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Ice Punch
- Night Slash
- Brick Break / Focus Punch
- Pursuit / Aerial Ace

Ive used this set before on shoddy, its quite cool for revenge killing stuff like Garchomp, Scarf Gar and Deoxys.


Focus Punch take a bit of prediction to use, although its gonna at least put a dent into stuff if you pull it off.

Last slot is up to you, obligatory Pursuit for killing switching foes or you can use Aerial Ace for Heracross if revenging that is important to you, it should be noted that it fails to ohko infernape lol

Angelic Diablo August 17th, 2008 5:16 PM

Umm you do realise that posting a thread gets rates, posting a team here gets you reported for spam

Was thinking of trying a mixquaza, but is there an uber that does mixsweeping better before I go out and SR for a Rayquaza

El Gofre August 21st, 2008 9:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3865731)
Umm you do realise that posting a thread gets rates, posting a team here gets you reported for spam

Was thinking of trying a mixquaza, but is there an uber that does mixsweeping better before I go out and SR for a Rayquaza

There are quite a few ubers capable of mixed sweeping:
Deoxys A
Darkrai
Mewtwo
Palkia

Let me know which sets you want and I'll dig out the standards =]

Dark Azelf August 21st, 2008 9:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3867122)
There are quite a few ubers capable of mixed sweeping:
Deoxys A
Darkrai
Mewtwo
Palkia

Let me know which sets you want and I'll dig out the standards =]

Dont forget Mix Dialga (who is a monster btw) ^__^

El Gofre August 21st, 2008 9:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3867181)
Dont forget Mix Dialga (who is a monster btw) ^__^

I had initially put dialga, but I find that a bulky build is more effective for a mixed attacker rather than a sweeping one. But yeah, Mixed Dialga does rock =]

Zurich August 21st, 2008 5:49 PM

plz rate my team:

Yanmega@ Wise Glasses
Timid nature, tinted lens
Ev´s: Def / 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Hipnosis
Hidden Power Ice

[email protected] lesftovers
Bold nature, synchronise
Ev´s: 252 HP, 180 Def, 180 Sp. Def
Wish
Curse
Mean Look
Substitute

[email protected] Life orb
Adamant nature, intimidate
Ev´s: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Waterfall
Ice Fang

[email protected] Leftovers
Calm, natural cure
Ev´s: 252 Def / 40 Sp.Atk / 216 Sp. Def
Softboiled
Thuner Wave
Wish
Ice Beam

[email protected] Choice Band
Jolly, sand veil
Ev´s: 252 Atk / 4 Sp. Def / 252 Speed
Earthquake
Fire Fang
Outrage
Stone Edge

[email protected] flame Orb
Jolly, guts
Ev´s: 252 Atk / 4 Sp. Def / 252 Speed
Facade
U-Turn
Brave Bird
Protect

accepting any suggestions :)

airconditioning August 21st, 2008 5:53 PM

You're supposed to make your own thread for an entire team.

Anyway, it fails for lack of Speed Boost on Yanmega. Really, Modest + Speed Boost, please.

Zurich August 21st, 2008 6:04 PM

Sory, its my first time here and there are many things i dont undertand. i thouhgt i could post my team here.

Anyway, i chose that trait for yanmega because you can do more damage to pokemons like magnezone, skarmory,etc, but maybe i will change it because he cant last a lot in battle.
Thanks :)

Romo_Owens August 21st, 2008 10:49 PM

@ Zurich

Yep Yanmega benefits a lot more from Speed Boost than tinted lens. Yanmega wouldn't be OU if it wasn't for Speed Bosst IMO.

Umbreons EVs don't add up, and I wouldn't suggest using Curse on that moveset because it doesn't make sense. Switch curse with Baton Pass so that you can switch into something that won't damage Umbreon too much, but isn't afraid of it either, lock it in with Mean look, then Baton Pass it to a counter. Would also suggest switching substitute for taunt. Your team doesn't have taunt support and to baton pass a substitute, you would have to switch in Umbreon, set up mean look, then set up a substitute then baton pass away. Despite Umbreon being pretty bulky, it's also extremely slow and I doubt it will be able to take 3-4 hits plus the substitute recoil.

Blissey is crying out for Seismic toss but if you don't feel like going back a generation to get Seismic Toss (that's why I don't have a blissey on my team), change wish for either Aromatherapy or Toxic. You already have wish support.

I would also suggest scrapping Swellow. It's a below average Pokemon even in UU. The only good thing about it is it's phenomenal speed. Other than that, it's got no moves to even hit a steel type for neutral damage, and since rock types are mainly focused on defense, don't expect pursuit to do much. It's fragile and get's 25% of it's health chipped off by stealth rock. If you like the idea of the flame orb with guts, go for a Heracross.

Adamant
Flame Orb
252 atk/252 spd/4 def

-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Stone Edge
-Pursuit

Walrein August 22nd, 2008 2:29 AM

I'm breeding Drifloon with Gastly for Hypnosis. But apart of that, I don't know what to do...
~Trait-Aftermath of Unburden?
~Nature-Bold, Calm, Modest or Timid?
~EVs-does it need any HP or speed?
~Moves-Thunderbolt or Psychic? Thunderbolt/Psychic, Shadow Ball, Hypnosis, and?
~Item-use a berry for Unburden?

El Gofre August 22nd, 2008 2:37 AM

Standard Difblim:

[email protected]
Calm
80HP/252SpDef/176Spd
Substitute
Baton Pass
Hypnosis/Calm Mind/Stock Pile
Shadow Ball

The only thing drifblim can really do well is pass its massive subs. It really cannot sweep due to its very average speed and SpAtt, even in UU there are better alternatives.


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