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El Gofre August 24th, 2008 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froslass (Post 3874212)
No, that's because the parent's nature does not effect the newborn's nature.

Yes it does, if equiped with an everstone there is 50% chance that the nature will be passed from the female parent. As such, you are just getting unlucky Destiny.

Divine~Deoxys August 24th, 2008 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky_x (Post 3874462)
I completed the dex last night so now it's time for me to move on to battling but I don't really have a set team. I know next to nothing about what moves are good, IVs/EVs, which items are best ect, so hopefully you guys can help.

Here's what I've used mostly:

Staraptor lvl72 with Macho Brace
227/216/117/86/90/173
Aerial ace
Close combat
Fly
Brave bird

Roselia lvl73 with Rose incense
169/123/99/167/148/128
Aromatherapy
Mega drain
Cut
Grass knot

Empoleon lvl73 with Wave incense
222/161/179/196/171/120
Drill peck
Surf
Waterfall
Hydro cannon

Bellossom lvl73 with Miracle seed
220/142/143/158/167/111
Lucky chant
Drain punch
Leaf storm
Giga drain

Shaymin lvl 73 with Micle berry
237/198/178/178/175/171
Seed flare
Aromatherapy
Substitute
Energy ball

Obviously I'll need one more but I can't decide what to choose, and I'd also like another suggestion in place of Shaymin for situations where I can't use it.

Thanks in advance =]


OK,i'm not going to rate,i'm jsut going to point out the obvious:On wi-fi all your pokemon atomatically go to lv.100,so its EVs that are important,not their current stats

El Gofre August 24th, 2008 4:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky_x (Post 3874462)
I completed the dex last night so now it's time for me to move on to battling but I don't really have a set team. I know next to nothing about what moves are good, IVs/EVs, which items are best ect, so hopefully you guys can help.

Here's what I've used mostly:

Staraptor lvl72 with Macho Brace
227/216/117/86/90/173
Aerial ace
Close combat
Fly
Brave bird

Roselia lvl73 with Rose incense
169/123/99/167/148/128
Aromatherapy
Mega drain
Cut
Grass knot

Empoleon lvl73 with Wave incense
222/161/179/196/171/120
Drill peck
Surf
Waterfall
Hydro cannon

Bellossom lvl73 with Miracle seed
220/142/143/158/167/111
Lucky chant
Drain punch
Leaf storm
Giga drain

Shaymin lvl 73 with Micle berry
237/198/178/178/175/171
Seed flare
Aromatherapy
Substitute
Energy ball

Obviously I'll need one more but I can't decide what to choose, and I'd also like another suggestion in place of Shaymin for situations where I can't use it.

Thanks in advance =]

I hate to tell you, but it's going to be less effort to raise a competetive team from scratch. EV training is done by battling very certain pokemon- battling anything and everything distributes the EVs badly and to places they are not needed. The only way to save these pokes is to EV wipe via the use of -EV berries, and you will need hundreds to wipe an entire team. Read through the sticky in this forum call Compiled 4th Gen Guides, it details how EVing and IVing is done, the art of team and move composition, and is generally a very helpful thread. Sorry, but you're in for a lot of work to get into competetive battling

Becky_x August 24th, 2008 4:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 3874495)
I hate to tell you, but it's going to be less effort to raise a competetive team from scratch. EV training is done by battling very certain pokemon- battling anything and everything distributes the EVs badly and to places they are not needed. The only way to save these pokes is to EV wipe via the use of -EV berries, and you will need hundreds to wipe an entire team. Read through the sticky in this forum call Compiled 4th Gen Guides, it details how EVing and IVing is done, the art of team and move composition, and is generally a very helpful thread. Sorry, but you're in for a lot of work to get into competetive battling

XD shows how much I know, I thought my team was quite strong lol! I'll go read it now, thanks!

El Gofre August 24th, 2008 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky_x (Post 3874504)
XD shows how much I know, I thought my team was quite strong lol! I'll go read it now, thanks!

That's the impression in-game gives to many a player: It's extremely easy to beat.

Dark Destiny August 24th, 2008 4:59 AM

>.< i'll try later tonight, but is outrage on a garchomp a must? or can i use dragon claw if i'm lazy?

Becky_x August 24th, 2008 4:59 AM

Okay so what should I do now? Do the stats of your Pokemon have to be around the same number, like all in the 200's or anything? Or should I pick which Pokemon I'm going to use before I go any further?

Walrein August 24th, 2008 5:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 3874471)
Yes it does, if equiped with an everstone there is 50% chance that the nature will be passed from the female parent. As such, you are just getting unlucky Destiny.

I didn't know that. I'll try. Thanks.

The Hero Without a Name August 24th, 2008 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny100 (Post 3874134)
I'm having a huge problem putting outrage on my Garchomp, I've got a male Dragonite(With OK IV's finally) with outrage, and a female jolly gabite, even when i put an everstone on my Gabite my baby Gible isn't Jolly Nature? Have I done anything wrong, or is just my luck?

It's just luck. Keep trying, you'll get Jolly Gible eventually.

The Graceful Assassin August 24th, 2008 7:46 AM

can someone give me the best EV spread of a mixape. Im trying to decide whether to go with Smogons
23 atk/ 252 sp.attk/ 232 speed

or Serebiis
128 atk/ 252 speed/ 128 sp.attk

Whichever one works best

Dark Azelf August 24th, 2008 7:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Graceful Assassin (Post 3874992)
can someone give me the best EV spread of a mixape. Im trying to decide whether to go with Smogons
24 atk/ 252 sp.attk/ 232 speed

or Serebiis
128 atk/ 252 speed/ 128 sp.attk

Whichever one works best

The first one.


Serebii, one is eww.

Sora_8920 August 24th, 2008 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Graceful Assassin (Post 3874992)
can someone give me the best EV spread of a mixape. Im trying to decide whether to go with Smogons
23 atk/ 252 sp.attk/ 232 speed

or Serebiis
128 atk/ 252 speed/ 128 sp.attk

Whichever one works best

Serebii is blegh. Go with Smogon like D_A said.

The Graceful Assassin August 24th, 2008 8:15 AM

ok but the moveset lets say if i didnt have HP ice, what moves could i substitute it with?

[email protected] orb
Naive
Close combat
grass knot
flamethrower
????
i was thinking either nasty plot or mach punch what would be better

Zurich August 24th, 2008 8:53 AM

I would change grass knot for thunder punch and maybe choosing nasty plot would be better for flamethrower. Is just my opinion.

The Graceful Assassin August 24th, 2008 9:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3875255)
I would change grass knot for thunder punch and maybe choosing nasty plot would be better for flamethrower. Is just my opinion.

grass knot is used to take out swampert, hippowdown and other heavy ground types like rhyperior so thunderpunch does not make too much sense and flamethrower is a must have with me maxing out its Sp.attk so that does not make too much sense either.

El Gofre August 24th, 2008 9:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3875255)
I would change grass knot for thunder punch and maybe choosing nasty plot would be better for flamethrower. Is just my opinion.

What TGA said.

Anyway, the final slot is either taken up by Nasty Plot or HP Ice. HP Ice is there for salemence and DNite who otherwise resists the entire moveset. I myself find NP to be more beneficial, but it's dependant on the rest of team.

Zurich August 24th, 2008 9:40 AM

I think you didn´t understand me... I said that you should put nasty plot as your fourth move to power up flamethrower.
You are right grass knot is more usefull, thunderpunch is for water types but grass knot is also effective to them.

Walrein August 24th, 2008 9:59 AM

Still, do you support the idea of Hypnosis-using Drifblim? It's trait can make it faster than Deoxys-S with absolute max speed with just 136 EV+nature or 228 without.

latioslegends August 24th, 2008 11:37 AM

Garchomp
252 ATK/252 SPD
Item life orb/yache berry
swords dance
fire fang
dragon claw
earthquake

Blissy
@Lefovers
Natural Cure trait
bold nature
252 EV Def/252 SP Def
Softbolid
Aromatheraphy/Heal Bell
Ice Beam

Alakazam
timid nature
item
252 SPD/252 SP ATK
psychic
focus blast
shadow ball
?

Metagross
item choic scarf
252 ATK/252 SPD/4 HP
Adamant nature
meteor mash
explosion
earthquake
ice punch

Glicor (Um what are other good physical walls?)


I appreciate the help from Froslass, Zurich, and Fabian the fastman thanks a lot for the advic!!! =)

Um are there any other picks than Glicor for a good physical, and what would be a good last pick for the last slot? (if there any changes I should make please point them out I would really appreciate it^^;)

Zurich August 24th, 2008 1:14 PM

For alakazam i would use the next moveset:
Choice specs, timid nature
psychic
shadow ball
focus blast
and maybe grass knot/energy ball/trick ( you need good prediction if using trick)
Evs are ok for a timid nature

For a phsicial wall i like weezing

[email protected] bold nature
fire blast/flamethrower
t-bolt
will-o-wisp/haze
pain split

Hope it helps you :)

latioslegends August 24th, 2008 2:50 PM

Huh is Weezing pretty effective? never seen it as being a good wall^^;

The Hero Without a Name August 24th, 2008 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latioslegends (Post 3876442)
Huh is Weezing pretty effective? never seen it as being a good wall^^;

That's what I thought in Advance, his golden era (and I was young, naive, a noober, etc). He's actually one of the best fighting-type counters in the game (barring Medicham and Gallade)

. August 24th, 2008 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latioslegends (Post 3876442)
Huh is Weezing pretty effective? never seen it as being a good wall^^;

Weezing is the best fighting resist in the game, easily. If you use him, however, don't let him take special hits. He rolls over to them. A defensive set would look like this:

Weezing @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
Will O Wisp
Pain Split
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Sludge Bomb/Explosion
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Sludge Bomb/Explosion

The Hero Without a Name August 24th, 2008 4:29 PM

Isn't Sludge Bomb something of Advance, though?

. August 24th, 2008 4:31 PM

Meh, it was, but it's still an option for a 'STAB' I prefer BoltThrower personally.


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