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The Hero Without a Name August 24th, 2008 4:32 PM

Ohhhh... That's what I thought...

latioslegends August 24th, 2008 8:33 PM

Oh never expected weezing to be a good physical wall might give it a shot, um just a question does scizor work for a good wall at all?

. August 24th, 2008 8:45 PM

Scizor is not a wall whatsoever.

dark_seeker August 25th, 2008 6:53 AM

scizor could be a wall with 100 base deff u could make it a physical wall
it would be unique plus scizor has only 1 weakness

. August 25th, 2008 6:55 AM

Wha? Base 100 Defense is not impressive to be a wall. Scizor is a *lol* sweeper. It can be a tank, but not a wall, lacks the defensive capabilities and movepool for it

latioslegends August 25th, 2008 10:14 AM

What about milotic would that work good since, it can practically go either physical, or special?

The Hero Without a Name August 25th, 2008 10:21 AM

Milotic's got great special defense, but her defense is mediocre at best.

El Gofre August 25th, 2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latioslegends (Post 3878811)
What about milotic would that work good since, it can practically go either physical, or special?

Milotic is a supporter and bulky water, but she cannot wall for the life of her. She just doesnt have the defences and resistances needed in this gen, since the majority of OU threats can 2-3HKO her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabian the Fastman (Post 3878821)
Milotic's got great special defense, but her defense is mediocre at best.

Marvel scale can compensate for that is some cases.

Zurich August 25th, 2008 1:43 PM

Is this a good moveset for milotic?

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Bold
124 HP / 252 Def / 132 Sp.Atk
Hipnosis
recover
surf
ice beam

Maybe i should put light screen for the last move or use the rest + sleep talk moveset
What do you think?

Z o M B ii 3 August 25th, 2008 2:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3879264)
Is this a good moveset for milotic?

[email protected] leftovers
Bold
124 HP / 252 Def / 132 Sp.Atk
Hipnosis
recover
surf
ice beam

Maybe i should put light screen for the last move or use the rest + sleep talk moveset
What do you think?

Resttalk is good with Milotic.
When asleep Marvel Scale
activates making him/her
hard to take down.

For your set, if possible
get HP Electric over
hypnosis.

Zurich August 25th, 2008 2:35 PM

So, is this moveset ok?

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modest
Surf
ice beam
rest
sleep talk

What about EVs? Maybe i should focus on HP first...

Dark Destiny August 25th, 2008 11:27 PM

Gah... last my info on dragonite... What's it moveset supposed to be again? with the EV's?

I think it's
Dragonite
Jolly
66Hp EV's, 252 att Ev's, 192 Spd Ev's
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch
Outrage?

i think that is the moveset for a dragonite, am i right?

Oh also, i don't quite understand how subsitute works. When my mate did it, when i attacked him, his subsitute didn't disappear. How do i get subsitute to disappear?

Angelic Diablo August 26th, 2008 1:21 AM

A substitute is created by taking that a 25% of that pokemon's health, so unless your attack does 25% or more the substitute will stay up until you attack it enough times to cause more than 25% damage

El Gofre August 26th, 2008 2:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny100 (Post 3880748)
Gah... last my info on dragonite... What's it moveset supposed to be again? with the EV's?

I think it's
Dragonite
Jolly
66Hp EV's, 252 att Ev's, 192 Spd Ev's
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch
Outrage?

i think that is the moveset for a dragonite, am i right?

Oh also, i don't quite understand how subsitute works. When my mate did it, when i attacked him, his subsitute didn't disappear. How do i get subsitute to disappear?

DDNite runs max Att/Spd and 4HP, but that is the correct moveset.

As said above, substitutes are made of a quarter of the opponents health, so iff they have 400HP then the sub will have 100. So you'll have to inflict 100 points of damage to break the sub.

Dark Destiny August 26th, 2008 3:17 AM

ryt, thanks for clearing that up =)

Zurich August 26th, 2008 4:34 PM

I came up with this 2 movesets for my lucario

Adamant/Choice Band 252 Atk/252 Speed
Steadfast
Close Combat
Crunch
Stone Edge
Bullet punch/extremespeed

Modest/Choice specs 252 Sp.Atk/ 252 Speed
steadfast
Aura sphere
Vacuum wave
Dark pulse/shadow ball
Hp ice/dragon pulse

Which one do you recommend?
If you know an other good moveset for lucario please tell me.

The Hero Without a Name August 26th, 2008 5:30 PM

Use whichever one your team needs more. =/

latioslegends August 26th, 2008 7:57 PM

A question I may ask would hippowdon make at all a good wall? and if not what would purely work as wall with some decent offensive I have looked into glicor and with having ice being a major weakness that is what worries me a lot.^^;

Angelic Diablo August 26th, 2008 8:24 PM

Hippowdon makes an excellent wall, but if you want one that resists Ice than I suggest Forretress

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Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Rest/Earthquake/Explosion

However if you do want to use Hippowdon.

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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk or 252 HP, 16 Atk, 152 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Stealth Rock/Roar
-Slack Off

The Sp Def EVs allow it to survive HP Ice flying around from Electric types (if they decide to stay in against the sand hippo). That being said, most HP Ice's will fail against the hippo with those EVs

MATTFO0 August 26th, 2008 8:54 PM

i was breeding some gligars and i got a shiny one. unfortunately it was naive nature. can anyone think of a halfway decent moveset for a naive natured gliscor?

dark_seeker August 26th, 2008 9:37 PM

u could evolve it into gliscor and use it as a bulky sweeper
it already has a decent attack stat and defence stat

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252hp/129att/129spd
Moves:
sword dance
ice fang
EQ
Roost

naive reduces sp.def so as long you stay clear of sp.sweepers your fine

Xebelleon August 26th, 2008 10:58 PM

This is a moveset I thought of making using a Daycare pair of Smeargle (m) and Lucario (f)...

Lucario
Jolly / Adamant
Inner Focus / Steadfast
~Swords Dance
~Drain Punch
~Bullet Punch
~Blaze Kick

Another Lucario...

Lucario
Jolly / Adamant
Inner Focus
~Swords Dance
~Rock Tomb
~Bullet Punch
~Blaze Kick / Bite / Crunch / Shadow Claw


Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3882367)
I came up with this 2 movesets for my lucario

Adamant/Choice Band 252 Atk/252 Speed
Steadfast
Close Combat
Crunch
Stone Edge
Bullet punch/extremespeed

Modest/Choice specs 252 Sp.Atk/ 252 Speed
steadfast
Aura sphere
Vacuum wave
Dark pulse/shadow ball
Hp ice/dragon pulse

Which one do you recommend?
If you know an other good moveset for lucario please tell me.

Do you have a Smeargle?
You could make a mimic of my Hippo...

Hippowdon
Sandstream
Careful (Special Defense ^ / Special Attack v )
~Stockpile
~Slack Off
~Body Slam
~Ice Fang

Acts in a similar way to that "CurseTank" Hippo. Can paralyze while damaging. Raise its own Special Defense to resist that pesky Grass Knot better. And regain its own health.

Quote:

Originally Posted by latioslegends (Post 3882889)
A question I may ask would hippowdon make at all a good wall? and if not what would purely work as wall with some decent offensive I have looked into glicor and with having ice being a major weakness that is what worries me a lot.^^;


Ársa August 26th, 2008 11:01 PM

What's with your 252/129/129 spreads? >_<

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Impish
252 HP, 44 Atk, 212 Def
Sand Veil

Roost
Earthquake
Stealth Rock/Swords Dance
Ice Fang

dark_seeker August 26th, 2008 11:38 PM

he said it has to be naive so why you saying impish?
i dont know that spread is just i dont know
i should try and get out of that habit
your spread is probably better then mine

Archer August 27th, 2008 12:07 AM

As much as I agree with T_S, the bulky sweeper can really work. I think D_A ran a set, get the EVs off him.


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