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Shiny August 27th, 2008 2:11 AM

Is this a good or decent moveset for a Special Sweeper Illumise?

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Leftovers
Tinted Lens
Modest
252Spd / 252SAtk / 4HP
- Bug Buzz
- Wish
- Thunderwave
- Charge Beam

Walrein August 27th, 2008 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Магия (Post 3883349)
Is this a good or decent moveset for a Special Sweeper Illumise?

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffa/dpffa314.png
Leftovers
Tinted Lens
Mild
252Spd / 252SAtk / 4HP
- Bug Buzz
- Wish
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderwave

Bug Buzz is a special move. Therefor, Modest>Mild.

Shiny August 27th, 2008 3:43 AM

So other than the nature, it's ok?

dark_seeker August 27th, 2008 3:52 AM

instead of t-bolt u could go with charge beam to raise its sp.attack

Shiny August 27th, 2008 4:13 AM

This is for another pokemon, what is the best moveset & nature for a Leafeon?

SuperSoup August 27th, 2008 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Магия (Post 3883541)
This is for another pokemon, what is the best moveset & nature for a Leafeon?

I have..

[email protected] Leftovers
Adamant
~Magical Leaf
~Giga Drain
~Take Down
~Razor Leaf

sims796 August 27th, 2008 4:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperSoup (Post 3883575)
I have..

[email protected] Leftovers
Adamant
~Magical Leaf
~Giga Drain
~Take Down
~Razor Leaf

That...that's just terrible. Just awful.

Did you see his sp.atk? it's only a measily base 60. That automatically makes Giga Drain & Magical Leaf useless. While I'm on that, why does it need three grass moves? Srsly, why? What are you hoping to accomplish? And it's Adamant, weakening Magical Leaf & Giga Drain more. Is this the set that you use in the game? Don't suggest those. We need a set that suceeds in wifi, not against stupid computers. I can tell because you don't have Leaf Blade, which he learns at lvl 71.

I didn't feel like it, but I guess I have no choice. Here are a few workable sets, courtesy of Smogon.

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Nature:Jolly
Leaf Blade
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
Roar/Grasswhistle
132 HP/60 Atk/216 Spe

Meant to pass SD to team members. Not meant for straight offense, as if you are using Leafeon, you won't be using his terrible moovepool.


& this is my walling set, meant for OU, that I use with great sucess. Courtesy of Dark Azelf. What a stupid name that is, Dark Azelf. He should change it.

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Nature:Impish
Leaf Blade
Wish
Roar
Protect
252 HP/32 Atk/220 Def

Roar is to stop chargers from setting up. Even with this set, Leafeon's Leaf Blade hits hard.

dark_seeker August 27th, 2008 4:42 AM

i like this set but it can also be used as a baton passer or a wish passer
[email protected]/leftys/expert belt/focus sash
nature:jolly
252att/252spd/6def
MOves:
sword dance
leaf blade
return(make sure it loves you)
X-siccor/synthsis

sims796 August 27th, 2008 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_seeker (Post 3883600)
i like this set but it can also be used as a baton passer or a wish passer
[email protected]/leftys/expert"][email protected]/leftys/expert belt/focus sash
nature:jolly
252att/252spd/6def
Moves:
sword dance
leaf blade
return(make sure it loves you)
X-siccor/synthsis

Also pretty bad, no offense. Seriously, why Expert Belt? What will it be hitting for Super Effective? With Return? Focus Sash doesn't even deserve a mention, as Leafeon is too strong defensively - it will go to waste. Return isn't worth it on Leafeon. The max it can go to is 102. You can just go for Double Edge.

That set works for UU, not OU. It's walled by everything in OU, but pretty solid in OU.

Shiny August 27th, 2008 4:56 AM

Ok, thanks everybody for the help

Archer August 27th, 2008 5:26 AM

Consider Growth and Encore over Wish and Thunder Wave. They are all very useful moves, although Growth can boost your SAtk (Charge Beam only has 63% chance, factoring in accuracy).
Encore means you can switch in on non-damaging moves on slower opponents and Encore them. Forcing them to switch out. This gives you a chance to set up. Good, though.

sims796 August 27th, 2008 5:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3883652)
Consider Growth and Encore over Wish and Thunder Wave. They are all very useful moves, although Growth can boost your SAtk (Charge Beam only has 63% chance, factoring in accuracy).
Encore means you can switch in on non-damaging moves on slower opponents and Encore them. Forcing them to switch out. This gives you a chance to set up. Good, though.

You have to quote what your talking about. Half this page is on Leafeon.

Walrein August 27th, 2008 5:47 AM

Actually, both X-scissor and Iron Tail make goos secondery attacks on Leafeon. It's better than nothing...

sims796 August 27th, 2008 5:52 AM

Stop. It won't even work in UU. X-Scissor is fine in UU, unless you really fear Celebii, but everything that Iron Tail hits, Leaf Blade hits harder. In OU, no X-Scizzor. It offers no additional coverage, and he can't really sweep. Leaf blade hits Psychics hard enough,and between Ice Beam on Cressy, & Psychic on Celebii (& being slower) it's useless in OU.

Unless he's UU sweeping, he doesn't need any secondary attacks.

dark_seeker August 27th, 2008 6:00 AM

Quote:

Also pretty bad, no offense.
the item or the moveset
granted the item is bad give it life orb or any other effective item
moveset looks ok double edge has recoil..thats Y return is preffered

sims796 August 27th, 2008 6:08 AM

Both. If you can't get Double Edge, Return may be a sound choice, but for a neutral attack, Double Edge may be more useful.

Both are bad for OU play, however.

Walrein August 27th, 2008 7:38 AM

I'll use Drifblim for Hypnosis, so should I use CM on Spritomb?

Zurich August 27th, 2008 8:47 AM

What about a hippowdon choice bander?

[email protected] choice band 252 HP / 124 Atk / 132 Def

Earthquake
Ice fang/stone edge
Thunder fang
crunch/fire fang/slack off


For gliscor i would use:

[email protected] leftovers 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

EQ
Roost
Ice fang/aerial ace
Stealth rock/knock off/taunt

latioslegends August 27th, 2008 9:09 AM

Quote:

Hippowdon makes an excellent wall, but if you want one that resists Ice than I suggest Forretress

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Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Rest/Earthquake/Explosion

However if you do want to use Hippowdon.

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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk or 252 HP, 16 Atk, 152 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Stealth Rock/Roar
-Slack Off

The Sp Def EVs allow it to survive HP Ice flying around from Electric types (if they decide to stay in against the sand hippo). That being said, most HP Ice's will fail against the hippo with those EVs
Thanks a lot for the help Angelic Diablo, so what would you prefer both sound like two great options I can't really decided X3

JesseRocket August 27th, 2008 12:33 PM

Need some good advice on which moves for Dustox and all else involved with him, thanks! :)

Dark Destiny August 27th, 2008 12:35 PM

Do you want to use Dustox in competitive battling or just using it ingame?

JesseRocket August 27th, 2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny100 (Post 3884623)
Do you want to use Dustox in competitive battling or just using it ingame?

For the game :) Started Diamond a few days ago (Never played it until now) Thank you! <3

BeachBoy August 27th, 2008 1:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseRocket (Post 3884618)
Need some good advice on which moves for Dustox and all else involved with him, thanks! :)

Frankly, Jesse, in-game you could use any moveset you feel comfortable with. This thread is mainly geared towards competitive movesets. If you just started the game, you really don't need to worry about movesets and such, as long as you train. You could just go to Dustox's wiki page for everything involved with him. :>

JesseRocket August 27th, 2008 2:07 PM

Thank you BB! <3 I was just curious as to what would be the best moves to keep and which to ditch to get the most out of Dustox in the D/P games :)

latioslegends August 27th, 2008 3:45 PM

Um what would make a good special sweeper? I have decided between Lucario, or gengar, but which would work better, and if these two are not good choices could any please point out a better option I really appreciate the help.^^


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