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sims796 August 29th, 2008 9:00 AM

Go for Shard. Those pros you gave for Shard just outweights the pros you gave for punch.

. August 29th, 2008 9:26 AM

Alright, I'm making a theme Sunny Day team, and I don't want to reveal it until the last day of my summer vacation. However, I want it to be good. The current lineup is this:

Moltres @ Heat Rock
Modest
216 HP/252 Spe/42 SpA
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Toxic
Roost

Heatran @ Choice Specs
Modest
42 HP/252 SpA/216 Spe
Fire Blast
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Explosion

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Modest
114 HP/216 Spe/180 SpA
Wish
Sunny Day
Grass Knot
Sleep Powder

Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/108 Def/150 SpD
Moonlight
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Fire Blast

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Modest
216 HP/42 Def/252 SpA
Seed Flare
Rest
HP Fire
Aromatherapy


Is there any way to fix Typhlosion here? The only three I really want to keep is Garchomp, Heatran, and Moltres. That's it.

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 9:40 AM

hey would the best moveset for empoleon be
ice beam
surf/hydro pump
drillpeck/aerial ace(preferably drill peck)
flashcannon

i thought that that was quite a good 1

. August 29th, 2008 9:42 AM

No, that's a bad moveset; defensively or offensively.

Empoleon @ Petaya Berry
Modest
28 HP/12 Def/252 SpA/216 Spe
Hydro Pump
Substitute
Ice Beam
Agility

Zurich August 29th, 2008 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romo_Owens (Post 3890039)
That's pretty much the exact same moveset that I proposed except with the added option of Aerial Ace which I'm not even considering because aside from countering Heracross, it really has no purpose and Night Slash is just a lot more important.

Both punch and Shard are incredibly viable which is why I'm having such a hard time deciding. Shard destroys DD Mence and Nite, will still do about 25% to a Gyarados that has picked up DD, and it OHKOs scarfchomp. It also receives the bonus of being the only priority move on my team.
Punch however is Weaviles strongest STAB move (Barring Dark Pulse) and OHKOs a Yachechomp.

Maybe you can have both punch and shard and remove pursuit...
you already have night slash so i think pursuit isnt very important, you need some good prediction to know if the pokemon will switch out.
Aerial ace would be good for fighting types in general, but brick break is more usefull, for rock and steel types, and for OHKO blissey

The moveset would be the following one:

Ice punch
Ice shard
brick break
Night slash
What do you think?

. August 29th, 2008 9:46 AM

Do you know what Pursuit does? It lets Weavile catch foes trying to switch out. That's what makes Weavile even remotely usable (aside from Ice Shard)

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash/Ice Punch

Please.

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 9:52 AM

definatly teach weavile aerial ace to deal with fighting types and givit choice band and teach it U-turn

Zurich August 29th, 2008 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 3890168)

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash/Ice Punch

Please.

Probably the foe will predict that you are going to use pursuit and change to a pokemon resistent to dark moves, so you can use ice punch instead, besides you are using choice band so you wont be able to use pursuit if you used an other move before.
But anyway that moveset is great.

. August 29th, 2008 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3890189)
definatly teach weavile aerial ace to deal with fighting types and givit choice band and teach it U-turn

No, Aerial Ace sucks ass really. It does lol damage to everything. It has no coverage, and does what? 22% to standard Machamp? It can't even OHKO Infernape.

@ Bold

Weavile doesn't even learn U-Turn...So yeah, not a smart post at all.

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 10:01 AM

oh sorry.i looked at a random website and it told me that.woohoo i beat the tower tycoon todaywith

Electivire...................... Magmortar .......and ..........lapras
thunder punch............. flame thrower ......................surf
ice punch.................... focus blast ..................hydro pump
earth quake............. pysychic.......................... ice beam
crosschop ................solarbeam....................... thunder

pretty impressive hey

Zurich August 29th, 2008 10:05 AM

For an adamant honchcrow what moveset do you suggest?
So far i have this one

Night slash
Drill Peck
Steel Wing
??

Maybe Sucker punch would be good... but i dont know

. August 29th, 2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3890202)
Probably the foe will predict that you are going to use pursuit and change to a pokemon resistent to dark moves, so you can use ice punch instead, besides you are using choice band so you wont be able to use pursuit if you used an other move before.
But anyway that moveset is great.

If they switch out, they are STILL hit. The power doubles when they switch out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3890228)
For an adamant honchcrow what moveset do you suggest?
So far i have this one

Night slash
Drill Peck
Steel Wing
??

Maybe Sucker punch would be good... but i dont know

Sucker Punch is awesome. I use a Mixed Set. HP Ice/Sucker Punch/Sub/Steel Wing

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 10:14 AM

maybe ummmm put roost or shadow ball in the moveset that u made.
(sorry,,,,i dont no what the different natures do)

Zurich August 29th, 2008 10:16 AM

Oh yeah i forgot its better if the foe swtiches out. So deffinitly pursuit is a must be.

And for the mixed set of hunchcrow which nature and EVs would you use?

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 10:18 AM

what are IVs and EVs anyway

Zurich August 29th, 2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3890258)
what are IVs and EVs anyway

You shouldnt ask that in this thread
Ask it here and maybe you will have an answer http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=136949&page=64&highlight=diamond+pearl

Dark Destiny August 29th, 2008 10:25 AM

read up on the guides then u'll get an idea

FinalPaladin August 29th, 2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurich (Post 3890273)
You shouldnt ask that in this thread
Ask it here and maybe you will have an answer http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=136949&page=64&highlight=diamond+pearl

thanx.did u read my battle tower post.how good was my Battle tower teams moves

Romo_Owens August 29th, 2008 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 3890168)
Do you know what Pursuit does? It lets Weavile catch foes trying to switch out. That's what makes Weavile even remotely usable (aside from Ice Shard)

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash/Ice Punch

Please.

Hey Vance you switch your Avatar like everyday eh? Anyways, finally I get a positive response letting me know what I should go with. Ok, looks like I'm going with Ice Shard. I still haven't decided about night slash or Ice Punch but I think I'm going to go with Ice Punch because well Night Slash aside from Cresselia doesn't have much use and Ice Punch is well... Ice Punch.

Now about your Sunny Day team, I know you said that Garchomp is one of the guys you wanted to keep but I'd get rid of him if I were you. I mean I love the shark and stuff but it seems like it benefits the least from Sunlight. Maybe Cresselia but with Sunny Day, Cresselia finally has a real reliable recovery move.
Also, I'd make Exeggutor a little more offensive because with those great Offensive Stats, and great speed boost from chlorrophyl, I'd give Shymin Sunny Day and give Exeggutor this moveset:

Exeggutor @ Choice Specs or Life Orb

-Leaf Storm/Solar Beam
-Psychic
-Hypnosis/Sunny Day
-Explosion

. August 29th, 2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romo_Owens (Post 3890438)
Hey Vance you switch your Avatar like everyday eh? Anyways, finally I get a positive response letting me know what I should go with. Ok, looks like I'm going with Ice Shard. I still haven't decided about night slash or Ice Punch but I think I'm going to go with Ice Punch because well Night Slash aside from Cresselia doesn't have much use and Ice Punch is well... Ice Punch.

I thought the same before. But it gets really annoying when things like Bronzong comes in and COMPLETELY wall you. A crit Night Slash would definately hurt it.

Now about your Sunny Day team, I know you said that Garchomp is one of the guys you wanted to keep but I'd get rid of him if I were you. I mean I love the shark and stuff but it seems like it benefits the least from Sunlight. Maybe Cresselia but with Sunny Day, Cresselia finally has a real reliable recovery move.
Also, I'd make Exeggutor a little more offensive because with those great Offensive Stats, and great speed boost from chlorrophyl, I'd give Shymin Sunny Day and give Exeggutor this moveset:

I was thinking that, but then I realized Infernape would RIP through my team, so I had to have something to revenge kill it. As for Exeggutor, I replaced it for Porygon2, to help my Gyarados weakness.

Exeggutor @ Choice Specs or Life Orb

-Leaf Storm/Solar Beam
-Psychic
-Hypnosis/Sunny Day
-Explosion

Thanks for the set. If I find out that Porygon2 becomes a bit useless, I'll definately use it. =]

Romo_Owens August 29th, 2008 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 3890480)
Thanks for the set. If I find out that Porygon2 becomes a bit useless, I'll definately use it. =]

Porygon 2 has it's uses but why not:

Gardevoir @ Leftovers

-Wish
-Will-O-Wisp
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

T-Bolt still gives you Gyarados Coverage but you also get another support pokemon and that speed and Sp. atk are nothing to gawk at.

Xebelleon August 30th, 2008 1:14 AM

So...

I made a Smeargle boy to go make:

Hippowdon
Adamant
~Stockpile
~Slack Off
~Earthquake
~Ice Fang

What nature should I be looking for, attack filler, item to maximize this? Should I edit the way it is to something else?

I was looking at that "CurseTank" as a base for the idea...

NOTE: I already have the CurseTank, as well...

FinalPaladin August 30th, 2008 3:52 AM

is tis a good offensive moveset for dragonite
dragon rush/claw
auqa tail
stone edge
and thunder wave

dark_seeker August 30th, 2008 4:04 AM

no this is
[email protected] berry/life orb
dragon dance
earthquake
fire fang
outrage/dragon claw

FinalPaladin August 30th, 2008 4:30 AM

oh well the tower tycoons dragonite nos dragon rush auqa tail and stone edge.but why dos his rhyperior no flame thrower,thunder bolt,ice beam and rock wrecker.i no they r good moves and cover his weaknesses but is this one better
hammer arm(to kill steel types)
mega horn/poison Jab(to kill grass types)
thunder bolt(to kll water types)
and stone edge/rockwrecker/rock blast(to kill starapter,rapidash and a really good parasect because he isn't weak to megahorn and is stronger than poison jab)

is this offensive moveset Rubbish OK(it will work for a bit) Good or brill


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