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El Gofre August 30th, 2008 4:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3892692)
oh well the tower tycoons dragonite nos dragon rush auqa tail and stone edge.but why dos his rhyperior no flame thrower,thunder bolt,ice beam and rock wrecker.i no they r good moves and cover his weaknesses but is this one better
hammer arm(to kill steel types)
mega horn/poison Jab(to kill grass types)
thunder bolt(to kll water types)
and stone edge/rockwrecker/rock blast(to kill starapter,rapidash and a really good parasect because he isn't weak to megahorn and is stronger than poison jab)

is this offensive moveset Rubbish OK(it will work for a bit) Good or brill

The battle tower is retarded, even the tycoon. Do not use it as a model for good competetive mosesets, because they aren't. The dragonite set provided above is arguably the best.

FinalPaladin August 30th, 2008 4:40 AM

but was my rhyperior moveset any good for competetive battling.can someone please suggest a good offensive moveste for torrtera(dont say super power cus u hav to breed him with totodile,croconaw or feraligator and i dont hav a gba link cable)

El Gofre August 30th, 2008 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3892715)
but was my rhyperior moveset any good for competetive battling.can someone please suggest a good offensive moveste for torrtera(dont say super power cus u hav to breed him with totodile,croconaw or feraligator and i dont hav a gba link cable)

Again, your set needs work. Standard Rhyperior runs:
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Megahorn/Avalanche
Stealth Rock/Roar/Sub

Nobody would ever suggest superpower on torterra, it's a terrible move for him. Anyway, standard torterra runs:
Wood Hammer
Earthquake/Stone Edge
Leech Seed
Stealth Rock

FinalPaladin August 30th, 2008 4:50 AM

why roar with any pokemon and anyway on my game sub is cheating.
i thought torrtera should no
woodhammer/seed bomb
stone edge
earthquake
????????

can some giv me a good idea for the last move(not roar not stealth rock not sub

El Gofre August 30th, 2008 4:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3892751)
why roar with any pokemon and anyway on my game sub is cheating.
i thought torrtera should no
woodhammer/seed bomb
stone edge
earthquake
????????

can some giv me a good idea for the last move(not roar not stealth rock not sub

Roar is there to get rid of any poke who has used Stat moves like Swords dance or agility.
Why on earth should substitute be banned?
You can use Seed Bomb if you dont like the idea of recoil, but Wood Hammer is a far superior option. Leech seed is vital so that torterra can tank properly.

Crunch should be your last slot if you're not willing o use a support move, and Choice band would be the item.

FinalPaladin August 30th, 2008 4:57 AM

thanx allot i hate sub and roar i think ill try leech seed

Sora_8920 August 30th, 2008 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_seeker (Post 3892640)
no this is
[email protected] berry/life orb
dragon dance
earthquake
fire fang
outrage/dragon claw

Uhh...only reason to use D-Nite would be because of that smexy DD + Outrage. :D

EDIT: Wasn't looking at the page number, but meh. Still makes a point lol. =p

El Gofre August 30th, 2008 5:05 AM

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outrage/dragon claw
Nonono. Just outrage. As you said, if you're gonna use DD+dragon claw you should be using the superior salamence.

Zurich August 30th, 2008 7:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hair_of_the_Dawn (Post 3892335)
So...

I made a Smeargle boy to go make:

Hippowdon
Adamant
~Stockpile
~Slack Off
~Earthquake
~Ice Fang

What nature should I be looking for, attack filler, item to maximize this? Should I edit the way it is to something else?

I was looking at that "CurseTank" as a base for the idea...

NOTE: I already have the CurseTank, as well...



If you want a defensive hippowdon you should go with a phisical wall.
-Impish
-Leftovers
Earthquake
Ice fang
Slack off
Stealth rock/roar

and this evs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 152 Def / 88 Sp.Def

The HP + Defense EVs allow Hippowdon to survive both an Adamant Garchomp's Swords Dance Outrage and an Adamant Lucario's Life Orb Swords Dance Close Combat.

Otherwise cursetank is a good option for an attacking moveset.

. August 30th, 2008 7:23 AM

Um, any Rhyperior with a Special Attack sucks. It doesn't matter if you're ingame or competatively, it sucsk and the trainer who uses it fails at making movesets.

I like CB Rhyperior (in Trick Room) The thing is a beast:

Rhyperior @ Choice Band
Adamant
Solid Rock
252 HP/252 Att/6 Def
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Megahorn
Avalanche/Ice Fang (Ice Fang in Trick Room)

People really don't know how to use Rhyperior. They think with a SS boost, he'll be taking SpA's easily, which he won't. Solid Rock is awesome, but it'll never let him live Max Att CB Meteor Mash from Metagross (a hard feat to do, which should be noted) Rhyperior truly needs Trick Room to be effective. It gets 2HKO'd by Pinsir Close Combat (with Mold Breaker) which says something.

pm_41 August 30th, 2008 4:54 PM

What's a good team for the Battle Tower?

Zurich August 30th, 2008 6:06 PM

Azelf/timid
Flamethrower
T-Bolt
psychic
nasty plot

Infernape/adamant
Earthquake
Flare bitz
Mach punch
Close combat

Floatzel/jolly
Aqua jet
Ice fang
Waterfall
Crunch

It really worked for me, you need some good variety of moves and you will be just fine.
It is a good team for the tycoon too.
Floatzel is for countering rhyperion, dragonite and cresselia
Infernape for heatran and regigigas
Azelf for milotic, With your superior speed you will kill him before it uses hipnosis.

Shiny August 30th, 2008 10:41 PM

Ok, so I got bored & joined Shoddy, I want to try an all bug team, this is what I've got so far;

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon012.png @ Expert Belt
Compoundeyes
Modest
252SAtk / 252Spd / 4HP
- Bug Buzz
- Poisonpowder
- Stun Spore
- Sleep Powder
Spoiler:
Lead, somewhat a Special Sweeper, though mainly used for triple powder sets

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon314.png @ Leftovers
Tinted Lens
Modest
252SAtk / 252Spd / 4HP
- Bug Buzz
- Wish
- Thunderwave
- Charge Beam
Spoiler:
Special Sweeper, Thunderwave to snare & Charge Beam for the increase of SAtk

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon205.png @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Brave
252Atk / 252HP / 4Def
- Payback
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Gyro Ball
Spoiler:
Spikespinner

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon212.png @ Expert Belt
Technician
Adament
252Atk / 252Spd / 4HP
- X-Scissor
- Sword Dance
- Iron Head
- Night Slash
Spoiler:
Physical Sweeper, need help on this

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon213.png @ Expert Belt
Sturdy
Lax
252HP / 252Def / 4SDef
- Sludge Bomb
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Stealth Rock / Toxic
Spoiler:
Physical Wall, added Sludge Bomb in there for offense

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dungeon/dungeon291.png @ Leftovers
Speed Boost
Jolly
252Atk / 252Spd / 4HP
- X-Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Agility
- Sword Dance
Spoiler:
Physical Sweeper, also used for Baton Passing speed & attack


Romo_Owens August 30th, 2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemonmaster_41 (Post 3894865)
What's a good team for the Battle Tower?

Blissey @ Leftovers

Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave
Ice Beam

This thing is an absolute beast in the Battle Tower. I'm really not sure how it works so well, but I got really far with it just leading my team because Computers for some reason have no idea how to deal with it. Even special attackers has trouble with it.

Weezing @ Leftovers

Flamethrower/ThunderBolt/Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Haze

Say what you want about Weezing but why it went to UU I don't understand. However, thw tower and competitive battling are 2 completely different things and the way I see it, Weezing is key. Of course the main attraction of this set is haze and the main reason for that is in the tower, many computers effectively use Minimize and especially Double Team. Now those moves are banned in competitive battling but is rampant in the tower and when the right Pokemon uses it becomes really annoying; in particular Blissey, Dusknoir, Shuckle and Forretress. Weezing is the best because all those pokemon tend to use Toxic as a DD/toxic combo so Weezing is free to switch in.

Also, you need an effective Sweeper. In the tower, the best sweepers are Garchomp, Lucario, Gengar, Alakazam, Porygon-Z or Metagross. Remember computers don't ev train so even in the hardest difficulties, a maxed out P-Z or Lucario will outrun 95% of all Pokemon.

@ Maria (yes I know Russian)

How can you make an all bug team and no include Heracross?

Your entire team get obliterated by any rock attack, doesn't have much attacking potential and dies at the arms of Stealth rock.

If you're going to make an all bug team, try to include Scizor, Heracross, Forretress and maybe Yanmega.

Shiny August 30th, 2008 11:06 PM

Ok, but it's Bulgarian, not russian just so you know... & I want to get rid of Masquerain & Volbeat, I just might now, thanks

Edit: I replaced Masquerain & Volbeat with Fortress & Scizor

Xebelleon August 30th, 2008 11:33 PM

Unsure of where to properly place this, but here goes...

I want a MEDICHAM...
I want a RHYPERIOR...

Having been levelled up to only the point of evolution, I was wondering if these will be terrible, in future. Also would like some possible moveset filler, different from the typical sources please if possible.

Medicham currently is: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Speed, remainder in defense; has Effort Ribbon

Male @ Adamant = Hp-phys-Spec-speed = 99 HP, 91 Atk, 69 Def, 52 SA, 67 SD, 97 Speed
~Baton Pass (I want to keep it for a breeding base; a battle alternate possible?)
~Psycho Cut (keep it, please, should be obvious)
~Fake Out (i want to kill this slot for something else; ThunderPunch?)
~Ice Punch (H. Scaled)

**As there is another place for Breeding help, I will not post the source here**

Rhydon (No Protector! Yay! I have not toured map for full abuse of navigation yet, *sad LOL*):

Impish (42) @ Male: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Def, remainder in HP
151 / 150 / 158 / 40 / 54 / 48
v~Current moveset~v
~Dragon Rush
~Ice Fang
~Fire Fang
~Earthquake (this was a pain to Egg with the others...)

I figure the STAB of a Stone Edge should fit into there. Maybe a Swords Dance. Should I reboot the species with different movesets?

Sora_8920 August 30th, 2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hair_of_the_Dawn (Post 3895831)
Unsure of where to properly place this, but here goes...

I want a MEDICHAM...
I want a RHYPERIOR...

Having been levelled up to only the point of evolution, I was wondering if these will be terrible, in future. Also would like some possible moveset filler, different from the typical sources please if possible.

Medicham currently is: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Speed, remainder in defense; has Effort Ribbon

Male @ Adamant = Hp-phys-Spec-speed = 99 HP, 91 Atk, 69 Def, 52 SA, 67 SD, 97 Speed
~Baton Pass (I want to keep it for a breeding base; a battle alternate possible?)
~Psycho Cut (keep it, please, should be obvious)
~Fake Out (i want to kill this slot for something else; ThunderPunch?)
~Ice Punch (H. Scaled)

**As there is another place for Breeding help, I will not post the source here**

Rhydon (No Protector! Yay! I have not toured map for full abuse of navigation yet, *sad LOL*):

Impish (42) @ Male: Ev = 252 Atk, 252 Def, remainder in HP
151 / 150 / 158 / 40 / 54 / 48
v~Current moveset~v
~Dragon Rush
~Ice Fang
~Fire Fang
~Earthquake (this was a pain to Egg with the others...)

I figure the STAB of a Stone Edge should fit into there. Maybe a Swords Dance. Should I reboot the species with different movesets?

Blegh, no Dragon Rush. Anyway, don't use Rhyinferior. :D What exactly are you Baton Passing on Medicham? o_o;

Xebelleon August 31st, 2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by . t R U T H (Post 3895851)
Blegh, no Dragon Rush. Anyway, don't use Rhyinferior. :D What exactly are you Baton Passing on Medicham? o_o;

~Wasn't wanting to USE Rhyperior in the first place.
I'll probably stuff SE and Megahorn the Ice Fang/DRush goodbye. Use R-hype for story moding.

More aiming for a possible slot for it in Battle Tower, maybe Trick Room, for R-hype anyhoo.

~Medicham: Having the Baton Pass on Medicham = looks good on paper I assume, as Smoggy lacks
~Medicham: Ability is cool, Magikarp pants are not.

I would rather slot a Delibird with Rapid Spin over Medicham. They both get the same result, I assume.

"Stealth Rock!!! Oh noez! Medicham, return! Go, Delibird! Rapid... awww...."

What about:

Mist + Baton Pass = on Smeargle? Or does some other/better do this better, if Mist-Passing is even a good thing...

Angelic Diablo August 31st, 2008 12:22 AM

Delibird is the WORST spinner around, send him in to take care of the Stealth Rock problem and his health drops in half just from switching in.

And Rhyperior can work effectively, I don't know why so many people bad mouth it (Yeah it has some problems, but what doesn't)

[email protected] Band/Leftovers/Life Orb
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Avalanche/Focus Punch/Hammer Arm
-Megahorn

My personal favourite set, Brave Nature can be considered for a quicker Rhyperior in Trick Room, and as such Hammer Arm becomes quite effective, however with Trick Room only lasting 5 turns you probably wont see that much use.

Anyway Focus Punch things on the switch hurts. Especially with the Choice Band attached

Xebelleon August 31st, 2008 12:31 AM

I know. Delibird sits in my PC with Defog, Splash, Present, Rapid Spin.

Yes, I really do have that set. Better to Defog "Santa penguins" than Zubat IMO.
On the up side, she collects dust slower than my Claydol...
-----------
I'm terrible at Focus prediction. And I hate Hammer Arm. I liek Longkips and
Ice Fang. Avalanche is on my "Phailord", one of my MANY Smeargle, and Rampardos...

FinalPaladin August 31st, 2008 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3892692)
oh well the tower tycoons dragonite nos dragon rush auqa tail and stone edge.but why dos his rhyperior no flame thrower,thunder bolt,ice beam and rock wrecker.i no they r good moves and cover his weaknesses but is this one better
.............................................
hammer arm(to kill steel and ice types)
mega horn/poison Jab(to kill grass types)
thunder bolt(to kll water types)
and stone edge/rockwrecker/rock blast(to kill starapter,rapidash and a really good parasect because he isn't weak to megahorn and is stronger than poison jab)
..............................................

is this offensive moveset Rubbish OK(it will work for a bit) Good or brill

i thought that my rhyperior moveset was pretty good(for in anyway)

Sora_8920 August 31st, 2008 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3896086)
i thought that my rhyperior moveset was pretty good(for in anyway)

Meh. Rhyperior's base SpA is of a stick, so you won't be doing that much to water types. D:

FinalPaladin August 31st, 2008 2:43 AM

the tower tycoons no's T-bolt F-thrower and I-beam and its reall strong

Sora_8920 August 31st, 2008 2:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 3896113)
the tower tycoons no's T-bolt F-thrower and I-beam and its reall strong

Not really. Anything in-game sucks. And the Tower Tycoon uses drugs. =p

But yeah, you can pretty much run through anything in-game.

FinalPaladin August 31st, 2008 2:52 AM

thanx.i think my moveset would win quite alot


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