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As for the original set, The moveset needs no improvements. However I fail to see what advantages this set has over the like-minded alakazam, bar a slight raise of bulk. I also fear she'll lack raw power once specs are gone, something alakazam does not have to worry about. |
its for heracross and infernape.if your insulting my moveset,your insulting www.smogon.com s moveset
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Smogon aren't the gods of pokemon, they make mistakes too. Infernape and heracross are both 2HKO'd by everything on this set already, making it obscenely difficult for them to switch in. They are outsped too, so cannot get an attack in before the next blow comes either. On that note, I'm not insulting your moveset, because it is not yours. You're also missing the point in that even if it had been a good move suggestion, what you did was take a pokemon catered to a specific role and made it do something different. That's not the advice this person wants. Quote:
Lets think back... Infernape is not a "great threat" to froslass. Read my previous post. It is 2HKO'd minimum. That includes shadow ball and ice beam, which it even resists. So now it's in, what does it do? It gets KO'd by froslass who outspeeds it, with a timid nature and base 110 speed compared to infernape's base 108. Next, you can only have 255 EVs in a single stat, not 510 =] |
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Edit; I will be deleting any nonsense. (This includes replies to such) Get to moveset improvement, thanks. We can move on from this. Final, you've been warned. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't suggest it. |
is this good for absol
[email protected]/that lens that boosts critical hit rate superluck att252/spe252/HP252 psycho cut nightslash/sucker punch swords dance X-scizzor/rocksmash |
Is this moveset any good for lapras? (its for platinum)
[email protected] Leftovers Adamant 252 atk/ 224 speed/ 32hp Dragon Dance Aqua tail Iron head Body slam change something if necesary. |
Waterfall > Aqua Tail, in my opinion. The random flinches you get are priceless.
I don't like Iron Head's coverage, so I'd go with Substitute here. For the last slot, Body Slam is rather meh now that you have Outrage (Water/Dragon is unresisted in UU), and even Return has a higher base power. |
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[email protected] Lefties Adamant 252atk/224speed/32HP Dragon Dance Waterfall Substitute Return |
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Also you can use Life Orb and Ice Beam > Sub, this allows you to OHKO Leafeon even with a - sp.att nature and to at least hit grass types hard. (You can use a + att - def or - sp.def nature if you wish to power it up more). Thunderbolt can be used in OU in place of sub to nab Skarmory, Gyarados and in UU to hit Poliwrath again with a + att - def or - sp.def nature. Ill shut up now =p. |
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I was also thinking about curser lapras, witch one do you think is more effective? |
Alitte help my Infernape, Lucario, and Floatzel
Infernape: Flare Blitz Close Combat SolarBeam ( accidentally used Grass Knot on Carnivine ><) Shadow Claw Lucario: Aura Sphere Water Pulse Dragon Pulse Dark Pulse Floatzel: Waterfall Surf Dig Ice Beam Assistance? Plz |
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Hmmm... I was looking for a good set for my Gliscor. Is this any good?
Gliscor @ Leftovers Impish Nature/ Sand Veil 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Atk - EQ - Roost - Ice Fang - Taunt |
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244 HP/ 188 Def/ 76 Spd ^ Lets you outspeed Jolly Tyranitar, Breloom and Timid Mangezone, and Choice Specs Heatran that sometimes run 216 EVs, and reaches a maximum leftovers recovery point. Also since Garchomp is banned there's very little reason to use Ice Fang, Gliscor doesnt make a good Salamence coutner IMO, as it fears Flamethrowers. consider Fire Fang to counter the new threat, Scizor, as well as still coutnering Breloom and more importantly Heracross, which Ice Fang cant. Fire Fang also works perfectly with Taunt as it lets you outstall Skarmory, Forretress and Bronzong. |
I recently looked up all the moves pokemon can learn in Platinum, particularly Outrage. :P
Anyway, this one struck my interest. OUTRAGE Primeape? Sounds pretty good to me. Could anyone give me a set? Also, could Outrage work for Ampharos? FURIOUSAMPHAROS @ Choice Band EVS: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Spe Nature: Adament - Thunderpunch - Outrage - Fire Punch - Focus Punch ? Hits a lot of things hard, and has decent enough bulk to take hits back. |
Primeape and Ampharos have absolutely no need for Outrage, as the only thing that it's hitting that's worth hitting is Altaria, who succumbs to Ice Punch anyway, which both can learn as well. Not to mention getting better type coverage and not being locked into 1 move for 2-3 turns, risking being set up on.
The only pokes that I can think of that welcome Outrage's addition to their movepools and is perfectly viable: are Kingdra, Salamence, and to a lesser extent Gyarados |
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Outrage is his only shot at hitting dragons, and choice banded, it should work nicely right? |
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I am worried that Ampharos would be a poor user of Outrage. It's very slow, so it won't be great for taking on any dragons, especially after a DD. It's also rather easy to switch in a Steel and hit it for SE. This is not so much of a problem for the other's as they have more than 273 Max Atk. The low speed means it can be easily outsped and revenged. It could work, but it's basically just a novelty. Quote:
Taunt can work, but it fails to outspeed most of the pokemon that are likely to set up on it. Stealth Rock and Knock Off can remain decent choices for support, especially considering most offensive teams deal with SR by running a Fast Taunting Suicide Lead. |
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Yea it sfor a team, im trying to get good at Wifi Battling thats why im asking |
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