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Dunsparce October 24th, 2008 2:14 PM

I still wopuld like soemone to rate this:

Wormadam Sandy [email protected] Band
Adamant
252 HP, 252 ATK, 6 SPD
Earthquake
Bug Bite
Sucker Punch
Rock Tomb/Rock Blast/Return

A Mirror to the Standard Choice Specs Wormadam Leaf Cloak. With the Platinum Additions of Bug Bite and Sucker Punch, it actually has a viable movepool to use Choice Band on. I need help with the 4th Move, though.

NoBel_ToKYo ™ October 25th, 2008 12:33 PM

i'm thinking of making a new team altogether. how does this sound for a line up?

celebi
252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
calm mind
baton pass
recover
psychic

togekiss
252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe
air slash
aura sphere
roost
nasty plot

gliscor
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
earthquake
ice fang
stealth rock
roost

scizor
108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spe
x-scissor
iron head
agility
swords dance

blissey
4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA
calm mind
thunderbolt
ice beam
softboiled

metagross
152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spe
meteor mash
agility
earthquake
explosion

hows that sound for a new team?

Detox October 25th, 2008 9:36 PM

where are the natures and items? ad you may want to post a RMT thread

BeachBoy October 25th, 2008 9:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4067248)
where are the natures and items? ad you may want to post a RMT thread

Uncompleted RMTs find their home here, so help a guy out. XD

Hint hint: To receive suggestions on nature and items, too. ;O

Detox October 25th, 2008 10:19 PM

well in that case,
scizor
108 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spe
x-scissor
bullet punch
superpower
swords dance

of course if it wer my dicision,id run

scizor @ life orb
jolly
252 atk/ 252 speed/ 6 hp

bullet punch
superpower
swords dance
X-scissor


also....

metagross
152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spe
meteor mash
agility
earthquake
explosion

no no no....

Metagross @ life orb
Adamant
252 atk/ 200 speed/ 52 special def/6 hp

earthquake
bullet punch
zen headbutt
explosion

NoBel_ToKYo ™ October 26th, 2008 12:12 AM

scizor won't be able to get those moves till the platinum move tutors..:S its okay for metagross, though

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomSyndrome (Post 4067327)


of course if it wer my dicision,id run

gee, thanks chum :| what were you expecting, perfection?

nevertheless, i'll take the changes into account :)

El Gofre October 26th, 2008 11:40 AM

I ask again, what is the standard origin giratina and where does it fall in terms of tier and usability?

Dark Azelf October 26th, 2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 4069223)
I ask again, what is the standard origin giratina and where does it fall in terms of tier and usability?

Its uber and it HAS to hold the Platinum Orb to keep its forme.

Quote:

[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Dragon Pulse
move 3: Thunder / Shadow Ball / Aura Sphere
move 4: Substitute / Aura Sphere
item: Platinum Orb
nature: Modest
EVs: 144 HP / 112 Spe / 236 SpA / 18 SpD



[SET]
name: Physical Attacker
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Outrage
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Shadow Claw
item: Platinum Orb
nature: Adamant
EVs: 144 HP / 236 Atk / 112 Spe / 18 SpD


[SET]
name: Mixed Attacker
move 1: Dragon Claw / Outrage
move 2: Shadow Ball / Draco Meteor
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Thunder
item: Platinum Orb
nature: Lonely / Naughty
EVs: 252 Atk / 112 Spe / 146 SpA


[SET]
name: Sleeping Beauty
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Earthquake / Shadow Claw
move 3: Rest
move 4: Sleep Talk
item: Platinum Orb
nature: Adamant
EVs: 144 HP / 236 Atk / 112 Spe / 18 SpD



credit to jibaku from smogon for this.

F-F-Franklin October 26th, 2008 1:43 PM

I just might get into ubers, cause I legal hack and all..

What are the major threats in Ubers? What pokemon should not be used in ubers? (other than the obvious..)

Dark Azelf October 26th, 2008 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-F-Franklin (Post 4069636)
I just might get into ubers, cause I legal hack and all..

What are the major threats in Ubers? What pokemon should not be used in ubers? (other than the obvious..)

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/uber_battling


really helpful.

KJ October 26th, 2008 4:50 PM

i have a lv 59 relaxed dragonite, can anyone give me a good moveset for it? Right now it just has wing attack/aqua tail/thunder punch/dragon rush.

Aurafire October 26th, 2008 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJ (Post 4070145)
i have a lv 59 relaxed dragonite, can anyone give me a good moveset for it? Right now it just has wing attack/aqua tail/thunder punch/dragon rush.

First of all, Relaxed is not a very good nature for offensive Dragonite. At least try this set

Dragonite @ Life Orb/Yache Berry
Jolly
252 Att / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Punch/Fire Blast
Earthquake

If you're still beating the game, a set like this will rip through everything regardless of nature (Sine the game is so freakin easy to beat XD)

MATTFO0 October 26th, 2008 7:44 PM

looking for a sub/focus puch lead abomasnow moveset. if u need any more details let me know

Archer October 26th, 2008 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 4070158)
First of all, Relaxed is not a very good nature for offensive Dragonite. At least try this set

Dragonite @ Life Orb/Yache Berry
Jolly
252 Att / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Punch/Fire Blast
Earthquake

If you're still beating the game, a set like this will rip through everything regardless of nature (Sine the game is so freakin easy to beat XD)

Look, if you are intent on using a Relaxed one, then you could run ABYAYs bulky SubRoostNite. I forget the EVs, but it ran Substite/Roost/Dragon Claw/Flamethrower, IIRC.

Angelic Diablo October 26th, 2008 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATTFO0 (Post 4070456)
looking for a sub/focus puch lead abomasnow moveset. if u need any more details let me know

[email protected]
Sassy Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 84 Sp Atk, 76 Spd, 96 Sp Def or Atk
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Blizzard
-Leech Seed

Subseedpunch with a 100% accurate Blizzard for those annoying physical walls.

Xebelleon October 26th, 2008 11:20 PM

Looking for "filler" moves and/or moveset editing for my Lopunny.

Lopunny (female) @ Jolly
Cute Charm
252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 SpDef
~Fake Out
~Sky Uppercut
~Low Kick
~Ice Punch

Would Baton Pass be good here? Which item/(s) should I consider without Switcheroo?
----------------------------
Still looking for "filler" moves and/or a moveset edit for my Blastoise

Blastoise (male) @ Adamant
Torrent
252 HP / 192 Spe / 64 Def
~Fake Out
~Aqua Jet
~Protect
~Ice Beam

Ayouki Emerald October 27th, 2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hair_of_the_Dawn (Post 4070682)
----------------------------
Still looking for "filler" moves and/or a moveset edit for my Blastoise

Blastoise (male) @ Adamant
Torrent
252 HP / 192 Spe / 64 Def
~Fake Out
~Aqua Jet
~Protect
~Ice Beam

Well, there's nothing wrong about Loppuny's movesets. But Blastoise nature and attacks don't match quite, I think.

It's Adamant. And if I recall properly, Adamant is +ATT and -SP. ATT. But there's Ice beam there. I suggest Aqua tail, or any other physical water moves.

Aqua jet is an increased priority move right?

But, I personally think, I'm wrong. It's my opinion about your Blastoise there. Base 83 Att. is quite comparable you see.
And, one more thing. Did you double breed Blastoise for Fake-out and Aqua Jet?

LethalTexture October 27th, 2008 12:46 AM

Yeah, you have to chain breed both moves onto Blastoice by breeding Aqua Jet onto a Seel.

While I'm here, I may as well ask for a good spread for Aqua Jet/Fake out Blastoise.

Archer October 27th, 2008 2:47 AM

Ok, Deano, we can go with a few variations on this set. You can go with a CB Set for later-game revenge kills. This would run:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani009.gif
Blastoise @ Choice Band
Adamant | Torrent
[ 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Spd ]
~ Aqua Jet
~ Fake Out
~ Ice Punch
~ Return/Earthquake

As you are probably thinking, this won't get the opportunity to use both Priority Moves, defeating the point of Fake Out. The following set could make a decent lead, bringing down some popular Suicide Leads before they get the chance to set up.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani009.gif
Blastoise @ Life Orb/Leftovers/Focus Sash
Adamant | Torrent
[ 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Spd ]
~ Aqua Jet
~ Fake Out
~ Toxic/Rapid Spin
~ Bite

This set can take most leads in OU, although it might not see much use there. Bite hits Gengar, Rotom and Mismagius Leads.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani009.gif
Blastoise @ Leichi Berry
Adamant | Torrent
[ 244 HP, 252 Atk, 12 Def ]
~ Aqua Jet
~ Fake Out/Body Slam/Ice Punch/Earthquake
~ Substitute
~ Focus Punch

This set focuses on Activating Torrent and the Leichi Berry. Fake Out is probably a stupid choice, so you can run Body Slam and hope for Parahax or just run Ice Punch/Earthquake.
Hey, you could even run a Curse set, which could take advantage of Aqua Jet's priority.

Did that help?

El Gofre October 27th, 2008 7:58 AM

How does this mewtwo look?

Mewtwo - #150 (Timid)
HP: 3
Att: 29
Def: 19
SpA: 31
SpD: 3 - 4
Speed: 23 - 24


I'm chuffed about the SpAtt, but a bit worried about the speed. Is it usable or what should I be aiming for?

Dark Azelf October 27th, 2008 8:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 4071466)
How does this mewtwo look?

Mewtwo - #150 (Timid)
HP: 3
Att: 29
Def: 19
SpA: 31
SpD: 3 - 4
Speed: 23 - 24


I'm chuffed about the SpAtt, but a bit worried about the speed. Is it usable or what should I be aiming for?

Yeah, that looks great, you will have to give it more speed evs to make up for the speed ivs though.

El Gofre October 27th, 2008 8:26 AM

Yeah I was gonna run a 252/252 specs set anyways. What standard uber bliss nowadays? I've been out of the metagame for too long =]

Dark Azelf October 27th, 2008 9:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 4071569)
Yeah I was gonna run a 252/252 specs set anyways. What standard uber bliss nowadays? I've been out of the metagame for too long =]

[email protected]
4 HP / 252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF
Calm Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Ice Beam / Icy Wind
- Thunder / Toxic
- Psych UP / Calm Mind
- Softboiled

Ice Beam for power whilst Icy Wind lets you make switch ins slow such as safeguard latios and taunt mewtwo so you can toxic them =p

Thunder for Kyogre and Manaphy and Toxic for the offensively retarded-ness.

Psych up or Calm Mind are required so you dont get owned by foe stuff with calm mind.

Softboiled...if you ask what this is for ill ban you lol

crystalvelox October 27th, 2008 12:58 PM

Regirock @ Choice Band/Wide Lens
Careful; 252 Hp/ 252 SpD/4 Def
Rollout
Earthquake
Fire Punch
Ice Punch

I was thinking that with sandstorm and entry hazard support this could actually be pretty effective late game. With the defences and HP it rivals shuckle in mixed wall potiential and therefore can take hits. And with STAB rollout with doubling power ever turn it can be very deadly very quickly, and since this would be late game most pokemon would not be at full health meaning they could be KOed by one rollout in the early use of rollout. So that sort of counteracts the low attack power it starts out with.

Earthquake and Fire Punch could be used to knock out steels that would resist rock. Ice Punch for ground types. Roll out for all else. Wide Lens would basically give rollout 100% hit rate and sort of never miss. But Choice Band could help with extra power. Clearbody also prevents gyarados and salamence intimidate.

So basically this is a gimmick set, but a good gimmick set I think when used in sandstorm teams. This could probably be even better if it had trick room support.

But are there any ideas that I could change about this for late game sweeping? Bulkup perhaps.

Lalapizzame October 27th, 2008 7:18 PM

So guys...I've been looking at Venusaur's potential in a new UU team I'm making, called "The Empires", and I've noticed there's no Sub Seed set in the Venusaur analysis. This has driven me to the edge of wanting to make a new set for it.

Venusaur @ Leftovers / Black Sludge (Really only use last one if you are picky)
Calm / Bold
252 HP / 252 Def or SDef / 4 SAtk
Sludge Bomb
Substitute
Leech Seed
Grass Knot

Really, it's like a sturdier and albeit stronger Vileplume, it's just that sims and his 4 alts have been pushing Vileplume's usage to near BL levels. :< Calm or Bold really depends on if you like the physical or special side of defense. Change Def or SDef EVs according to nature. (252 SDef with Calm only, Bold with 252 Def) Sludge Bomb = ROFL Grass-types, Sub Seed is pretty obvious, tbh. Grass Knot is really for those double grass weak pokes, but if you extremely mind being walled by Steels, you can run HP Fire.

I'd like some UU expert's advice here. (hint: Syaoran or ABYAY)

I may just split the Def EVs, but your opinions count more than my often bad decisions.


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