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4th Gen Matt December 5th, 2008 5:30 PM

I need suggestions for three Pokemon on my UU team. I need a lead and 2 walls, one special and one physical. My three sweepers are NP Raichu, SD Scyther and a standard Hitmonlee. Any suggestions?

Superkid11 December 5th, 2008 7:41 PM

Physical Wall:
Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/136 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball/Explosion
- Roar/Explosion
Works out quite well if I do say so myself.

Special Wall:
Well Hypno is typically considered the best special wall in UU, but Grumpig definitely deserves some consideration seeing as it can Calm Mind and boost its special sponging ability.
For that same reason you should also consider Clefable... Clefable can also run a pseudo-Blissey set.


Lead:
Butterfree? Worth a shot... accurate double powder and all.

... just go to Smogon for the rest of those movesets. :p

Eleventyseventy December 6th, 2008 6:44 AM

Hey guys.
Could someone help me out with sets for Electrode, Kabutops, Lanturn and Dewgong on a Rain Dance team?
If anyone has suggestions for the last two members or possibly replacing one of the above pokemon, I'm all ears. =)

Lunar Fang December 6th, 2008 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinarak (Post 4174011)
Hey guys.
Could someone help me out with sets for Electrode, Kabutops, Lanturn and Dewgong on a Rain Dance team?
If anyone has suggestions for the last two members or possibly replacing one of the above pokemon, I'm all ears. =)


I'm familiar with the the first two, so I can help you there.

[email protected] Sash/Damp Rock
Static ll Hasty
228 Spd/252 Atk/28 Sp.A
-Taunt
-Rain Dance
-Explosion
-Thunder

[email protected] Life Orb
Swift Swim ll Adamant
252 Atk/176 Spd/80 HP
-Sword Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Brick Break/X-Scissor

Milke December 6th, 2008 7:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 4172451)
As in just NINCADA or does it include it's evos?

No, i will be evolving it. I'm not crazy like you - I'm not doing a magikarp only run =P

Malch December 6th, 2008 11:05 AM

I'm wondering what a good moveset for a Togekiss would be (for competitive battling). I know I'd want Serene Grace and probably maxed out Sp. Attack to go with Air Slash, but then what else? I'm considering Flamethrower for Ice-types, and maybe Rest and Snore (the problem being that Snore adds another Normal-type attack). Then I think I'd have Salamence or Tyranitar with Earthquake for backup. Maybe U-turn would make sense, as I doubt I'll use too many moves other than Air Slash. Thanks in advance!

Farasha December 6th, 2008 11:08 AM

Good moveset for a SpecsVaporeon? I need to replace my terrible SpecsMilotic.

Pysncrono December 6th, 2008 11:14 AM

Vaporeon isnt meant to be a Specs'er. It's best as a Wish passer / Physical Wall.
Specs Kingdra works quite well though if you want a Specs Water poke...

El Gofre December 6th, 2008 11:14 AM

[email protected] Specs
Modest
252Def/252SpAtt/6Spd
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Hydro Pump/Wish

Standard specs vaporeon iirc.

Farasha December 6th, 2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gofre (Post 4174536)
[email protected] Specs
Modest
252Def/252SpAtt/6Spd
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Hydro Pump/Wish

Standard specs vaporeon iirc.

I hope you meant 252 Def/252 SpA/4 Spe, otherwise that's an illegal EV set.

But thanks for the moveset :)

Pysncrono December 6th, 2008 11:23 AM

How is it illegal? 252+252+6 = 510. the 2 extra dont matter but there's nothing wrong in typind those
And if its Specs it should be Max Speed to make sure it gets a hit >>

El Gofre December 6th, 2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farasha (Post 4174553)
I hope you meant 252 Def/252 SpA/4 Spe, otherwise that's an illegal EV set.

???
252+252+6=510, which =Legal

airconditioning December 6th, 2008 11:24 AM

252/252/6 is legal, bro. You're allotted a max of 510 EVs, not 508.

EDIT: I am slow.

Malch December 6th, 2008 11:26 AM

What about my Togekiss moveset?

Farasha December 6th, 2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 4174558)
252/252/6 is legal, bro. You're allotted a max of 510 EVs, not 508.

EDIT: I am slow.

My bad, I feel like kind of an idiot now. I meant that the 2 points won't do anything so it's kind of useless.

Ambient December 6th, 2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malch (Post 4174561)
What about my Togekiss moveset?

If you want a Nasty Plot Sp.Attacker, go with something like this:

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe

- Nasty Plot
- Roost
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere

Alternatively, for a Choice Specs set:

Togekiss @ Choice Specs
Ability: Serene Grace
Modest Nature
EVs: 64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Spe

- Air Slash
- Flamethrower
- Aura Sphere
- Tri Attack/ Shadow Ball/ Hyperbeam (Use with extreme caution, may give opponent easy set-up time)

El Gofre December 6th, 2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malch (Post 4174516)
I'm wondering what a good moveset for a Togekiss would be (for competitive battling). I know I'd want Serene Grace and probably maxed out Sp. Attack to go with Air Slash, but then what else? I'm considering Flamethrower for Ice-types, and maybe Rest and Snore (the problem being that Snore adds another Normal-type attack). Then I think I'd have Salamence or Tyranitar with Earthquake for backup. Maybe U-turn would make sense, as I doubt I'll use too many moves other than Air Slash. Thanks in advance!

Nonono

Physical attacks on togekiss are fail. Nasty Plot sweeper please:

[email protected]/Lum Berry
Modest
252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Roost
Nasty Plot

Alternatively you could strap on a choice item (Specs or scarf) and put flamethrower and either tri attack, shadow ball or HP ice over the two bottom slots.

EDIT: Sniped :P
EDIT EDIT: Ambients EV spread is better for the NP sweeper set btw

Pysncrono December 6th, 2008 11:50 AM

Lol I beat everyone by one minute ^^
EDIT: Now i lose by 3 XD

Dont worry Farasha, everyone makes mistakes :P

For Malch:
You can use the FlinchHax set on Smogon with T-Wave and Air Slash for abuse. But for Sweeping consider the NP set or even this one:

Togekiss (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 154 HP/252 Atk/104 Spd
Naughty nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Extremespeed
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot
- Roost

May seem gimmicky, but dont be fooled, this has more Attack than a Lucario! You sweep with Extremespeed and the other two moves. Aura Sphere could go over Roost in the last slot to deal with TTar and Heatran... I tested this and it nets SOOO many revenge kills

F-F-Franklin December 6th, 2008 11:56 AM

Right now I'm building a team and having a bit of trouble: (I'm trying to make a team for a AgiliGross Sweep)

[email protected]
56 hp/200 sAtk/252 spe
Timid
- Sub
- Leech Seed
- HP Fire
- Leaf Storm

[email protected]
252 hp/252 def/6 sAtk
- Surf
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- HP Electric

Basically sub seed in the beginning, draining my opponents lead. It also does well against Aero, Azelf, etc. Water/Grass is a classic combo to absorbing attacks. Now, I realize [email protected] Scarf with thunderbolt and HP Ice can destory this, but either than that i need to help not build up weaknesses. Any suggestions? and this is the Metagross is the one i'm using:

[email protected] Orb
252 atk/208 spe/44 hp
Adamant
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunder Punch

Right now my team covers (somewhat) Skarmory, Bulky Waters, Dragons, Scizor (ish), and some other things.

The Hero Without a Name December 6th, 2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malch (Post 4174516)
I'm wondering what a good moveset for a Togekiss would be (for competitive battling). I know I'd want Serene Grace and probably maxed out Sp. Attack to go with Air Slash, but then what else? I'm considering Flamethrower for Ice-types, and maybe Rest and Snore (the problem being that Snore adds another Normal-type attack). Then I think I'd have Salamence or Tyranitar with Earthquake for backup. Maybe U-turn would make sense, as I doubt I'll use too many moves other than Air Slash. Thanks in advance!

Here are a couple:
Togekiss @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Modest Nature
Serene Grace
252 HP/152 SPATK/104 SPD
Nasty Plot
Roost
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
First and foremost, MAKE SURE YOU'VE REMOVED ENEMY ZAPDOS AND ROTOM FORMES BEFORE SETTING THIS UP. Also, it'd be better if you've cleared out/paralyzed enemy LOGar, or any opposing electrics. Anyways, use Togekiss's bulk and Nasty Plot to raise his SPATK to sky-high levels. Air Slash/Aura Sphere provides an attacking combination resisted only by Zapdos and the Rotoms. Leftovers for recovery, and Lum Berry is a one time cure for paralysis/toxic, both of which screw Toggy up.

Togekiss @ Choice Specs
Modest
Serene Grace
64 HP/252 SPATK/192 SPD
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Flamethrower
Tri Attack/Shadow Ball
Specs Togekiss. Air Slash and Aura Sphere, as usual, are his two main attacks. Flamethrower destroys steels. For the last slot, you can go Tri Attack for secondary STAB, or Shadow Ball to hit incoming Rotoms.

Paraflinch (Thunder Wave/Air Slash) is still his most popular set, but nobody here would really recommend it; as Anti put it, the concept of the set is "hey, let's win thru hax instead of prediction!"

Malch December 6th, 2008 1:30 PM

Thanks for your help, Ambient, Gofre, Pysncrono and Fabian. The NP Sweeper looks good:

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Modest Nature
252 HP / 152 SpA / 104 Spe
- Nasty Plot
- Roost
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere

But if I wanted to hack with Thunder Wave, would I take out Aura Sphere or Nasty Plot?

Ambient December 6th, 2008 1:32 PM

Taking out Nasty Plot would remove it's ability to Nasty Plot (which it needs to have if it's going to be a Nasty Plot sweeper, Obviously)

Taking out either Aura Sphere or Air Slash would remove your coverage and taking out roost would remove your ability to heal. If your sticking with this kind of set, thunder wave has no place on it.

Farasha December 6th, 2008 2:00 PM

Okay, sorry to bother everyone with so many questions, but now I'm building an UU team and I need two more Pokemon to round it out. I'm mostly looking for a wall. Here's my team so far:

[email protected], Timid
(4 HP/252 Spe/252 SpA)
Ice Beam
Substitute
Thunder Wave
Spikes

[email protected] Orb, Hasty
(36 Atk/220 Spe/252 SpA)
Crunch
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
HP Grass

[email protected], Impish
(252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def)
Earthquake
Roar
Toxic Spikes
Stealth Rock

[email protected] Specs, Timid
(252 Spe, 252 SpA, 252 SpD)
HP Electric
Energy Ball
Overheat
Dark Pulse

Any suggestions? Like I said, I'm looking mainly for a wall, also anything you think the team is missing, also tell me if I'm being silly and making a useless team. I'm still very new at this (as my loltastic post above shows).

Pysncrono December 6th, 2008 3:27 PM

Hmm, you're looking for a special wall mainly, and although I'd suggest Grumpig/Hypno, it would only add to the ghost/dark weak. Use a Cosmic Power Clefable, it causes switches which are IMMENSELY helpful seeing your hazard team. For your last poke I suggest a Swellow or DDAltaria as you need a Ground immune seeing your 3x Ground weak.
Hope that helped :)

. December 6th, 2008 8:22 PM

Need some help deciding if I should use SD Toxicroak or SD Absol. Toxicroak is nice and all, but its Sucker Punch is weaker, and even its STAB Cross Chop is weaker than Absol's Superpower (in terms of damage output)


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