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Pysncrono December 7th, 2008 12:29 AM

Id say it depends on your teammates weaknesses and stuff like speed and raw power. If you want raw power that can take out a few pokes before dying, go with Absol. If you are water weak and RD teams are giving trouble, go with Toxicroak.
Toxicroak has better "longevity" though, it can take a few unboosted hits and retaliate back. SubPunching set is just great for that kind of play. We all know Absol's merits, its like a Garchomp with crap defenses( ok a watered down Chomp).
So yeah its up to you... although for bulky sweepers Kanga and Poliwrath are much better.

Romeo_Delight.exe December 7th, 2008 2:05 AM

Okay everyone, can anybody give me a good moveset & strategy for a Cloyster?

Its stats are

Docile Nature
Lv. 100
HP: 219
Attack: 205
Defense: 449
Sp. Atk: 236
Sp. Def: 122
Speed: 180.

Ability: Skill Link.

Archer December 7th, 2008 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 4175977)
Need some help deciding if I should use SD Toxicroak or SD Absol. Toxicroak is nice and all, but its Sucker Punch is weaker, and even its STAB Cross Chop is weaker than Absol's Superpower (in terms of damage output)

Man, Absol is broken with Superpower. That means you have to do the honest thing and use it. Given what you said, I see no point in using Toxicroak outside of a Rain Team.

Toxicroak is a bit faster, that's it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OU812 (Post 4176490)
Okay everyone, can anybody give me a good moveset & strategy for a Cloyster?

Its stats are

Docile Nature
Lv. 100
HP: 219
Attack: 205
Defense: 449
Sp. Atk: 236
Sp. Def: 122
Speed: 180.

Ability: Skill Link.

Um, Docile is a bad nature. Go with Relaxed or another +Spd nature.

Pysncrono December 7th, 2008 3:40 AM

^
I think you mean a +Def nature. Cloyster isnt really a good spinner or wall seeing it dies to any Special attack. Claydol is far better as it take no damage from Spikes / TS and 6 from SR, can use Shadow Ball to deal with anti-spin and use SR

SmashBrony December 7th, 2008 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistermagius (Post 4167941)
Bother.....I can't decide what Heatran moveset to use...
But I did narrow the choices down:
I don't like being choiced, because I feel that will leave me vulnerable,
(besides that, my Heatran is modest, so that leaves out the scarf set)
& I have a calm Cresselia I figure would be a equally good rest-talker,
So I'm deciding between the taunt & burn support sets....

I still need help........any suggestions, at least?

FinalPaladin December 8th, 2008 11:24 AM

hi,yo.which is the best for tower tycoon palmers second team milotic or starmie

Milke December 8th, 2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 4179888)
hi,yo.which is the best for tower tycoon palmers second team milotic or starmie

It depends on your team. I beat him the second time with a Garchomp, Milotic, and a T-Tar, but there are a lot of good teams with Starmies as well. What's the rest of your team look like?

Actually I swept all of his guys excpet cresselia with garchomp's choice banded outrage. Cresselia was toast from two of T-Tar's crunches.

BeachBoy December 8th, 2008 12:12 PM

Let me note, now that we have a thread dealing with the Battle Tower, take anything & everything concerning such over there. It was made to avoid cluttering up this stickie, so keep that in mind.

Matt-O December 8th, 2008 2:07 PM

Even though not many people have Platinum yet, Scizor is starting to get me PO'd already. Can someone give me a reliable NON PLATINUM way to stop him?

airconditioning December 8th, 2008 2:20 PM

A number of ways.

Heatran: 4x Bullet Punch resist. Just be careful of Brick Break/ Superpower
Gyarados: Resists Bullet Punch and X-Scissor, and has Intimidate.
Zapdos: Even without Heat Wave, STAB Thunderbolt hurts. Although Heat Wave is easily obtainable if you trade to someone with Platinum...
Hippowdon: Bulky, and can force Scizor out with Roar.
Infernape: Resists Bullet Punch, and can hit back with Flamethrower/ Fire Punch. Very frail, though.
Shedinja: Immune to Bullet Punch, X-Scissor, BB/ Superpower, and Quick Attack. Can hit back with WoW.

Matt-O December 8th, 2008 2:22 PM

What kind of Zapdos are we talking about here? I have a Timid one (even though I think it's IVs are probably crap)? Basically, could I get a set for it?

airconditioning December 8th, 2008 2:53 PM

Keep in mind that Heat Wave is an important part of these sets, so removing it puts Zapdos in a slightly weaker position...

Zapdos @ Life Orb/ Leftovers
Timid
252 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 6 HP
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave/ Thunder Wave?/ AncientPower?
- Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
- Roost

Zapdos @ Choice Specs
Timid
176 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 80 HP
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave/ Thunder Wave?/ AncientPower?
- Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
- U-Turn

If you really want to use Zapdos, just send it to someone with Platinum to put Heat Wave on it. Although in either case, you'd need to hack the proper IVs on him for HP Ice/ Grass.

supersmashbro93 December 8th, 2008 3:55 PM

looking for mix spiritomb wall set
also im looking for a flareon physical set

Dark Azelf December 8th, 2008 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersmashbro93 (Post 4180688)
looking for mix spiritomb wall set
also im looking for a flareon physical set

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252 HP / 106 DEF / 156 SP.DEF
Calm Nature
- Shadow Ball
- hidden Power fighting
- Rest
- Sleep talk

OR

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252 HP / 144 Att/ 112 SP.DEF
Careful Nature
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split
- Sucker Punch
- Taunt / Pursuit


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88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Super Power
- Fire Fang
- Return
- Bite / Quick Attack

supersmashbro93 December 8th, 2008 5:18 PM

whats a set for a bold spiritomb since thats all i have and i can't breed another... mixed wall

Watch out for that jet Metang! December 8th, 2008 10:20 PM

Is there such thing as a special attacking choice scarf salamence?

Barney. December 9th, 2008 10:56 AM

Eh, just seeing if I could get a physical houndoom...

Houndoom @ Muscle Band
Adamant/Naive
252Atk/252Spe/6hp

- Howl
- Thunder Fang
- Fire Fang
- Crunch/Iron Tail


Meh, Probably screwed up bad...

Help?

Oh and can someone help me with an Ambipom set?

Dark Azelf December 9th, 2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazeavile (Post 4182152)
Eh, just seeing if I could get a physical houndoom...

Houndoom @ Muscle Band
Adamant/Naive
252Atk/252Spe/6hp

- Howl
- Thunder Fang
- Fire Fang
- Crunch/Iron Tail


Meh, Probably screwed up bad...

Help?

Oh and can someone help me with an Ambipom set?

Arcanine kinda does that better and gets priority in Extremespeed and better attack =p.


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252 ATT /252 SPEED / 6 HP
Jolly
Technician
~ Return
~ Focus Punch / Brick Break
~ Payback
~ Fake Out / U-turn / Fire Punch

or

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252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid
Technician
~ Baton Pass
~ Nasty Plot
~ Swift
~ Thunderbolt / Taunt / Substitute

or

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252 ATT /252 SPEED / 6 HP
Jolly
Technician
~ Fake Out
~ U-turn
~ Brick Break
~ Payback / Return

=p

ABYAY December 9th, 2008 11:29 AM

meh, if you're going to try a pure physical set, it's not easy at all.

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Adamant/Lonely or Jolly/Hasty
252atk/252speed/6HP

Endure/Substitute
Reversal
Crunch
Howl/Fire Blast

Sub/Endure Reversal is your best shot at a physical set. Getting a Howl in the switch-in, Sub or Endure as you see fit, activate Salac Berry at 1HP, then sweep (Hopefully). If you go Fire Blast, that'll get rid of big steels, although you might have to invest in some special attack to do notable damage.

Sub protects you from status, but Endure makes Stealth Rock/Spikes unable to ruin your plan. Sandstorm or Hail ruin both sets, unfortunately. Therefore, get a weather changer if you dare try this.

supersmashbro93 December 9th, 2008 1:16 PM

still looking for a bold spiritomb set as a mix wall

El Gofre December 10th, 2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersmashbro93 (Post 4182454)
still looking for a bold spiritomb set as a mix wall

Walling spiritomb need the SpDef boost, so you're gonna have to find a way of breeding. Odds are your spiritomb's IVs won't be top-notch if it isn't bred anyway. The only standard spiritomb to use bold is:

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Bold
252HP/252Def/6HP
Rest
Sleep Talk
Calm Mind
Dark Pulse

Mono-attacker. More defence, less coverage. The sets D_A listed are generally more effective.

airconditioning December 10th, 2008 1:48 PM

Hey, what's a good lead that can counter Aerodactyl and Azelf leads? I've been considering Bullet Punch CBGross, but that obviously dies to both.

Dark Azelf December 10th, 2008 2:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 4184563)
Hey, what's a good lead that can counter Aerodactyl and Azelf leads? I've been considering Bullet Punch CBGross, but that obviously dies to both.

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Also there are fake out anti leads (e.g ape and weavile) and Meteor Mash + BP Lead gross does it too. Azelf also looses to tar.

However preventing them setting up sr is a tough task.

Reese December 10th, 2008 3:15 PM

Can I get a moveset for Honchkrow?

airconditioning December 10th, 2008 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4184619)
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Also there are fake out anti leads (e.g ape and weavile) and Meteor Mash + BP Lead gross does it too. Azelf also looses to tar.

However preventing them setting up sr is a tough task.

Hm, seems pretty broad. Is there anything that can counter (or at least defend against) suicide leads, while still serving a purpose later in a battle?


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