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Dunsparce March 18th, 2008 2:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3411747)
I always forget this, but does light ball double his Att stat? I've heard it does, but serebii sates the contrary

As of D/P, yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3411747)
But yeah, thats the best pika set out there, although i run nasty plot over substitute.

I wouldn't use Pikachu, period. With Paper-Thin Defenses, it's basically a UU Fire Red Deoxys.

Oddly, Pikachu's Attack is base 55, while It's Special Attack is 50.

Besides, it can't afford the time to NP up. It needs to Attack ASAP.

EDIT: I was too slow >.<;

Candymancan March 18th, 2008 2:43 PM

Hey guys i was wondering what your thought were on a regice ? Mainly for my ice team of course, i kinda wish his special defense was in place of his def, but eh.

Impish regice if i can find one, 252hp, 252def.

With Curse, Counter, maybe avalanche, and explosion

Im worried about facing Infernape with this guy tho, i dont know even if he gets curse off if he can last a second hit from close combat, altho i would probly switch him out if someone brings in a infernape

Dark Azelf March 18th, 2008 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3411779)
Hey guys i was wondering what your thought were on a regice ? Mainly for my ice team of course, i kinda wish his special defense was in place of his def, but eh.

Impish regice if i can find one, 252hp, 252def.

With Curse, Counter, maybe avalanche, and explosion

Im worried about facing Infernape with this guy tho, i dont know even if he gets curse off if he can last a second hit from close combat, altho i would probly switch him out if someone brings in a infernape

Please dont stay in on infernape, it makes Regice sad =[ use Starmie or Tenta to counter that.


This is probably the most practical set being weak to Stealth Rock and all.


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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Calm nature
- ice Beam
- Thunderbolt / Charge Beam / Seismic Toss
- Rest
- Sleep Talk


Pretty beastly, its still weak to SR though, but its still a great wall.

sims796 March 18th, 2008 2:52 PM

No, no, my my, no.

If his Def was swapped, he still couldn't handle Stone Edge/Close Combat. I'm not too sure, but:

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Nature:Calm
Ice Beam
Thunderbotl
Rest
Sleep Talk

I don't remember the EV spread, but this seems nice, at least when I'm this tired. Don't waste time forcing an ICE TYPE, whose weak to many physical moves, to be a physical wall. Hell, it's weak to Stealth Rock. Just focus on Sp.Defense

EDIT:Ah, Dark got it first.

Dark Azelf March 18th, 2008 2:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3411808)
No, no, my my, no.

If his Def was swapped, he still couldn't handle Stone Edge/Close Combat. I'm not too sure, but:

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Nature:Calm
Ice Beam
Thunderbotl
Rest
Sleep Talk

I don't remember the EV spread, but this seems nice, at least when I'm this tired. Don't waste time forcing an ICE TYPE, whose weak to many physical moves, to be a physical wall. Hell, it's weak to Stealth Rock. Just focus on Sp.Defense

Max hp and max def for ev spread @Calm nature, his sp.def doesnt need any investment, it still has 490 or something stupid without any sp.def evs and calm nature.

i can remember using this against you come to think of it =p. One of the best things ive ever soft resetted for....

Candymancan March 18th, 2008 3:13 PM

Well if his Sp def was switched with his def, with 1 Curse, and rest he would last twice as long as stone edge and close combat will be doing only 100-140 dmg to him, but since his def is so low, even with a curse he couldnt take any hits.

Since he takes so much dmg, i was thinking of getting one with counter from the 3rd gen, if they hit with stone egde and close combat, i would be hitting them back for around 600 instantly ko'ing them.

Basicly tricking them thinking im stupid for keeping him in against infernape, once they hit me i kill them

sims796 March 18th, 2008 3:16 PM

That's almost as bad as Counter Blissey. Good for one pop, once the surprise is over, you lost your sp.wall. Just stick to his strengths.

EDIT:Oh, forgot he has 200 SP.DEF.

Candymancan March 18th, 2008 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3411876)
That's almost as bad as Counter Blissey. Good for one pop, once the surprise is over, you lost your sp.wall. Just stick to his strengths.

EDIT:Oh, forgot he has 200 SP.DEF.

No i still have duskinor on my team guess i shoulda mentioned that, im thinking of going for 3 walls, Regice, duskinor, and stallrein. Duskinor is Carefull with EV's in SPD, wallrein is the basic tocix/protect/sub, surf wall thats bold with DEF EV's.

Or what about getting a pokemon for reflect Purpose's ? To reduce the dmg they take. Ah so much to try lol

airconditioning March 18th, 2008 3:28 PM

If Regice had his Def swapped with his SDef, he'd be Regirock. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Gamerman/Image%20Macros/awesome.gif

Candymancan March 18th, 2008 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3411916)
If Regice had his Def swapped with his SDef, he'd be Regirock. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Gamerman/Image%20Macros/awesome.gif

True lol ...................fillerrrr

El Gofre March 19th, 2008 11:04 AM

Hi all, i need a bulky groudon set to work as a lead in an uber team. It needs to be able to set up SR and underspeed kyuber (But thats it, it doesnt need to survive it, im not sure thats possible :P)

Thanx in advance :)

TFN March 19th, 2008 11:55 AM

Anyone Know a good physical wall?
I was thinking steelix or sumthing because it has high defence

Dark Azelf March 19th, 2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AceRula (Post 3413436)
Anyone Know a good physical wall?
I was thinking steelix or sumthing because it has high defence

Skarmory, Gliscor, hipowdon etc ???

TFN March 19th, 2008 11:59 AM

Hmmm Hippowdown sounds good but he brings in sandstorm so ill go for skarmory

know any good movesets??

Dark Azelf March 19th, 2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AceRula (Post 3413456)
Hmmm Hippowdown sounds good but he brings in sandstorm so ill go for skarmory

know any good movesets??

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Impish nature
252 HP / 16 ATT / 200 DEF / 40.SP.DEF
- Brave Bird / Drill peck
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
- Roost


Yeah, id suggest brave bird, it can do nasty damage when called for, it OHKO's Infernape switch ins, Drill Peck is more defensive, but in all honesty it kinda sucks ...

Spikes or Stealth Rock, your choice, Stealth Rock is better if your team is weak to Mence and Gyarados etc.

Whirlwind to PHaze, and shuffle spikes around your opponents team.

Roost to heal.

Dunsparce March 19th, 2008 2:27 PM

[email protected](Female)
Docile (>.<)
252 HP, 252 ATT, 6 DEF (Has an IV of 31 in HP and an IV of 30 in Defense. All the rest are sub-par)
Roost
Body Slam
Rock Slide
Ancientpower/Rock Smash/Poison Jab/Water Pulse/Anything that abuses Serene Grace

NOT REBREEDING. I'm already breeding enough getting a Bug team >.<;

El Gofre March 19th, 2008 2:47 PM

You do like to be different don't you? ;)
Nature could be better, but with those IVs i wouldn't rebreed either
Headbut would work for SG abuse: 105 base damage after STAB and 60% flinch rate would be beastly

Anywayz, i need help on this hitmonlee set:
[email protected]/ChoiceScarf
Jolly/Adamant
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Blaze Kick
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Close Combat

I think the moveset's ok, not sure on blaze kick though. My main querie is do i go jolly+Band or adamand+Scarf?

sims796 March 19th, 2008 2:49 PM

Jolly/Band, I say. Hitmontop is much better, I demand you use that RIGHT NAOW!

El Gofre March 19th, 2008 2:57 PM

Hehe i see a triple hitmon theme team coming along ;)

But yeah, they provide different roles and when i noticed 120att with access to STAB close combat, i had a sudden urge to look at UU lol

Dunsparce March 19th, 2008 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3414001)
You do like to be different don't you? ;)
Nature could be better, but with those IVs i wouldn't rebreed either
Headbut would work for SG abuse: 105 base damage after STAB and 60% flinch rate would be beastly

Too bas Headbutt is an Egg Move >.<; That's why i have Rock Slide.

I caught this baby on Three Isle in Leaf Green. I was one of my team Staples :D

I have a unique taste in Pokemon XP

EX: My favorite Fire-Type is the NU Pokemon, Magcargo XD

El Gofre March 20th, 2008 3:36 AM

Damn thats a pity, headbutt would have rocked on it lol
In that case its down to preference really, you've got all the best options laid out there. Thunder would be funny, 100% paralysis rate might be abuseable

Shauna March 20th, 2008 6:51 AM

Shuckle/Chesto Berry/Bold

Toxic
Stealth Rock
Bide
Rest

EVed for Defense and Special Defense

I want a slightly better moveset- granted, his special attack and attack suck, but I want some move that will chip at an opponents HP while the toxic's there.

Azonic March 20th, 2008 7:21 AM

What about Wrap? It will hold the opponent in the field. And when Bind wears off, Stealth Rock will come into effect.

Dark Azelf March 20th, 2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shauna (Post 3415522)
Shuckle/Chesto Berry/Bold

Toxic
Stealth Rock
Bide
Rest

EVed for Defense and Special Defense

I want a slightly better moveset- granted, his special attack and attack suck, but I want some move that will chip at an opponents HP while the toxic's there.

swdkniesferfetkpovplfdmgbhf, Max HP always on this thing, it has like suckage hp.

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252 HP / 96 Def / 160 Sp.D
Impish nature
~ Body Slam / Knock Off
~ Toxic / Stealth Rock
~ Encore
~ Rest

Body Slam is illegal with Knock off, so its one or the other in that slot.

*Sigh* this thing needs an evo, poor thing.


And before anyone comes saying "zomg i7 h4s li3k bas3 10 4tt", its for parahax =/.

El Gofre March 20th, 2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3416066)
*Sigh* this thing needs an evo, poor thing.

That would be a sight to see lol

Anywayz, i need a bulky groudon lead for my uber team. Must be adamant, able to set up SR and underspeed other weather users (Ive seen a couple of TTar in the tier recently, so best to underspeed them too)


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