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Cyberboy April 7th, 2008 11:57 AM

Alloo could someone please suggest a mixed wall dusknoir set/status effector? I was thinking:
Double team
Will o wisp
Pain split
mean look
But I dunno, anyway any help would be much appreciated. THANKS!

sims796 April 7th, 2008 11:57 AM

I'm spiteful. I say Destiny Bond.

Good point. Just laziness on their part.

ABYAY April 7th, 2008 1:12 PM

Alright, I'm needing a non-steel physical sponge (if any) to really soften my fire weakness/owned by Magnet Pull situation (although I've NEVER been caught in this yet. Also, I need a Magnezone set (something that can take a good hit, but can plow back.) Something with HP Grass is more preferred due to the lack of Garchomp being in OU battles for a month. Anyway, post away if you have ideas.

Also, Cyberboy, that Dusknoir set, it's just too reliant on status. Also, in competitive battling, Double Team is banned. The standard Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Fire Punch/Shadow Sneak, and T-punch/Shadow Sneak works wonders from what I've heard.

Dark Azelf April 7th, 2008 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3477510)
I'm spiteful. I say Destiny Bond.

Good point. Just laziness on their part.

Ill try all 3, Destiny bomd always makes me a bit scepticle of using it, once they catch on you cant use it again =[

Anyways, I bred Wynaut way back in September,as i was bored, and to my amazement i got a bold shiny one, total fluke, it has good ivs aswell.

So seeing as this dude is now sort of OU, i might aswell test use one,i never have before, so im curious.


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252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP
Bold Nature
- Encore
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
- Safeguard / Charm




The dude seems too slow for safeguard tbh, so i dunno, what would you suggest.

I would of loved Tickle in that last slot too, by alas its an event =[

El Gofre April 7th, 2008 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABYAY (Post 3477749)
Alright, I'm needing a non-steel physical sponge (if any) to really soften my fire weakness/owned by Magnet Pull situation (although I've NEVER been caught in this yet.

Swampy springs to mind, what with its substantial defences, fire resist and EQ to ko non-risen magnezone. It ticks all the boxes, but if by sponge you mean wall you'll need something a bit chunkier.

sims796 April 7th, 2008 1:18 PM

Tickle is a move that needs more attention. I say Safeguard, as Charm is usually for forcing switces, and that's moot. You have Counter, whadda need Charm for?

But Tickle would be great.

Faceless* April 7th, 2008 1:21 PM

Destiny Bond should always never be used with Pokemon with speed lower than 90, but since this is Dusclops, that could be an exception

starmii3 April 7th, 2008 1:27 PM

Hey guys and Gals, im in need of a new move set for a charizard. One thats over all good, or one for battling through wi-fi. Thanks!

ABYAY April 7th, 2008 1:40 PM

Well, it depends on which type of Zard you want.

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Modest/Timid
252sp.atk/252spd/4def (or HP)

Flamethrower/Overheat
HP Grass/HP Electric/Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Focus Blast/Focus Punch

Focus Punch solely for incoming Blissey, so if you fear less of Bliss, then Blast much more efficient.

There's also Belly-Zard, which utilizes Belly Drum, and is one of the best in game. Also, Dragon Dance is considerable with a BS version of the Dragonite DD/Outraging.

Trogdor7190 April 7th, 2008 6:46 PM

Can somebody give me a good moveset for the regi's?

Sorry if I'm not doing this right, I'm kinda new to the whole "strategy" thing. (usually I just picked random moves that were offered to me lol"

ABYAY April 7th, 2008 7:10 PM

hmm... the Regis I can't give EV spreads for, but I can give you information on two of them, and those are Regirock and Regice.

Regirock wants sp. def EVs rather than defense EVs because that stat is insane enough. It can dual wall in sandstorm with sp.def boost. Moves should be something revolving around Stone Edge and Explosion being at least two (or just Stone Edge if you need Rock to live.)

Regice is almost the same way, only flip it around and get more defense, but it could also use sp.def EVs. The most common set is Rest, Sleep Talk, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt.

Can one of the more knowledgable members on movesets fill in these gaps?

Le_Avatar April 7th, 2008 7:13 PM

Hey there, just a quick question to know the opinion of experienced players please ;)

I want to try a DD-Tar setup, and I'm questioning myself about that Outrage move on it ? I know it's raw power that blow hell on my SD-Chomp and CB-Chomp but, will it be good on a T-Tar setup, as it lose the STAB effect ??

Thanks a lot for your time :)

Anti April 7th, 2008 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le_Avatar (Post 3479156)
Hey there, just a quick question to know the opinion of experienced players please ;)

I want to try a DD-Tar setup, and I'm questioning myself about that Outrage move on it ? I know it's raw power that blow hell on my SD-Chomp and CB-Chomp but, will it be good on a T-Tar setup, as it lose the STAB effect ??

Thanks a lot for your time :)

Well, you can look at this from a few ways...

First off, you know Tar is going to need DD and its STAB Stone Edge, so those are a given. Now, you'll want Crunch or EQ for sure to go along with it, or maybe both (my preference).

Outrage does less than STAB Stone edge, but the 80% accuracy is annoying and can cost Tar its life possibly, and chances are it's your last shot at winning since it sweeps in the late game. If you want a reliable killer that after 2 DDs will wipe out about everything (besides steels, which should be gone anyways). However, it locks you in and can cause you lots of problems with Scarf Heracross and friends.

In other words, Outrage is fine on it, I just don't prefer it when I see the possibility of Quakeslide (EQ/Stone edge in this case) with Crunch to beat down the resists. That beats up on about everything.

Espreon April 7th, 2008 9:58 PM

Since Garchomp is now banish'd I would like to know if a Dragon Dancing Salamence would be a suitable replacement on my team.

My other team members:

Porygon-Z
Electivire (Due to the introduction of Salamence bringing upon two shared weaknesses I am planning to get rid of him)
Typhlosion
Uxie
Bronzong (with Levitate)

The Salamence's moveset is the standard Smogon Dragon Dancing Salamence moveset:

Item: Life Orb

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge

In addition I was wondering whether I should use Adaptability or Download on my Porygon-Z. I am leaning towards Download since it has the potential of upping all of my Sp.Atk move's power, rather than Adaptability which only enhances Tri-Attack.

Hadim Sinan Pasha April 7th, 2008 11:25 PM

Ok so uhm. I was wanting to know what a good Nature and EV Spread would be for a DD-Tar. Also, if you could let me know which pokemon would be the fastest way fo training those ev's I'd appreciate it. Oh and another thing. I was wanting to know good nature's, EV spreads and movesets for all the Eeveelutions on the exception of Flareon. I don't need the moveset for the DD-Tar, just for the 6 Eeveelutions. I hope I'm not asking for too much.

EDIT:Is there a way of teaching a Larvitar DD with a male Tyranitar or do I need a female bred with a pokemon that knows the move?

Le_Avatar April 8th, 2008 5:10 AM

Thanks a lot Anti, that was exactly what I wanted to know :)

@ Flame Healer: You can put a male T-Tar that already know D-Dance with a Ditto, if it's what you wanted to know... Good natures would be Jolly/Adamant depending if you want more speed or power, and good ol' 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP should do good. Hope it helped ;)

Angelroid April 8th, 2008 12:55 PM

Can i have a Moveset's for.
Roserade
Drifblim

Sora_8920 April 8th, 2008 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 3481200)
Can i have a Moveset for.
Roserade
Drifblim

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark Azelf: [email protected] SPecs
4 HP / 252 Sp.A / 252 Speed
Timid Nature
Trait : natural Cure
- Leaf Storm
- Shadow Ball / Energy Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden power Fire
Go Shadow Ball > Leaf Storm and just put Energy Ball in the 2nd slot.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=121104&page=43 Go to that page of the Request a team / Individual Moveset Thread. DA posted about Driftblim, and got help on it.

Dark Azelf April 8th, 2008 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2008 (Post 3481230)
Go Shadow Ball > Leaf Storm and just put Energy Ball in the 2nd slot.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=121104&page=43 Go to that page of the Request a team / Individual Moveset Thread. DA posted about Driftblim, and got help on it.

Eww wtf Shadow Ball >> Leaf Storm, ??? no.....

More like Shadow Ball >>Energy Ball, i hope is what you meant =o

Sora_8920 April 8th, 2008 1:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3481266)
Eww wtf Shadow Ball >> Leaf Storm, ??? no.....

More like Shadow Ball >>Energy Ball, i hope is what you meant =o

Yep, that's what I meant. D:

Archer April 9th, 2008 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3471949)
OK, I found these two in my PC the other day, and decided to have a go at the DP Battle Tower. I just need one thing to accompany them, most likely a tank.

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Hasty | 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6SAtk
~Swords Dance
~Earthquake
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Blast/Fire Fang

Notes: Don't want to be locked into Outrage. Fire fang is an option, but it was originally hasty for the ability to use Fire Blast.

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Modest | 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt
~Recover/Psychic


Notes:
Modest because speed is not such an issue in the BT. With Max EVs and a decent IV (don't quite remember) it shouldn't have too much trouble. I'd be more concerned about having the power to OHKO things. Rapid Spin isn't needed in the BT, so I can't decide between Recover and Psychic.

So, I need a third pokemon, most likely a tank. Boah, perhaps?

Ok, i've been thinking, and I intend using Bronzong with Gyro ball.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Brave | 252 HP, 140 Atk, 118 SDef
~ Gyro Ball
~ Hypnosis
~ Earthquake/Explosion
~ Reflect/Light Screen

Notes: Low Spd IV for maximum gyro damage. SDef EVs to take flamethrowers better.

Well? What do you think?

Sora_8920 April 9th, 2008 2:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3483066)
Ok, i've been thinking, and I intend using Bronzong with Gyro ball.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Brave | 252 HP, 140 Atk, 118 SDef
~ Gyro Ball
~ Hypnosis
~ Earthquake/Explosion
~ Reflect/Light Screen

Notes: Low Spd IV for maximum gyro damage. SDef EVs to take flamethrowers better.

Well? What do you think?

Well, that would be the idea. D: Brave is kinda gimmicky, even on your set, but whatever works.

Archer April 9th, 2008 6:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2008 (Post 3483081)
Well, that would be the idea. D: Brave is kinda gimmicky, even on your set, but whatever works.

Would you suggest another spread or set? Oh, and it should be more efficient to make it sassy and move some SDef EVs to Atk.

Dark Azelf April 9th, 2008 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3483381)
Would you suggest another spread or set? Oh, and it should be more efficient to make it sassy and move some SDef EVs to Atk.

I run, for the battle tower


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252 HP / 108 DEF / 148 SP.DEF
Relaxed Nature
Trait : levitate
- Gyro ball
- Reflect
- Stealth Rock
- Hypnosis

SR, is actually helpful in the tower, it negates those stupid sashes, Alternately you can just blow it up n put Explosion >> Sr.

luke April 9th, 2008 8:39 AM

Chimecho (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/6 SAtk/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave / Reflect
- Recover

That's what I have right now. I want to get some other opinions before I finished breeding it. Maybe go Bold over Calm? I'm terrible at running calculations but is there a way it can survive a Pursuit from Weavile and go out with a Thunder Wave / Reflect?


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