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. April 25th, 2008 3:23 PM

Starting to EV some hatched Magikarp and Horseas for Kingdras and Gyarados.

Need a good, bulky, DDancing set for both of them.

Dark Azelf April 25th, 2008 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABYAY (Post 3530900)
[email protected] Orb
Hasty/Mild
Either ability is fine I guess, but Adaptability is far superior.
252atk/252spd/6sp.atk

Return
Tri-Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

This is your sponge killer. Blissey is 2hko'd by Return (hits very hard on anything really...). Mixed walls will give you a lot of trouble though. Consider Dark Pulse as an option if you'd like.

The EV spread still gives you plenty of sp.atk to work with, but if you want to be more special-related, cut off of attack, but not too much.

That set is fun as hell to use lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tyranitar (Post 3530938)
Starting to EV some hatched Magikarp and Horseas for Kingdras and Gyarados.

Need a good, bulky, DDancing set for both of them.


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212 hp / 16 att / 180 def / 100 speed
Adamant Nature
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake /Stone Edge
- Waterfall / Ice Fang

Bulky Gyara

[email protected] Orb / Leftovers
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Naughty / Adamant Nature
Trait : Sniper.
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Return
~ Draco Meteor / Hydro Pump / Substitute

Marcy_11 April 25th, 2008 3:37 PM

Im after a decent stratergy/moveset involving th following pokemon

- Camerupt
- Machamp
- Charizard
- Octillery
- Tropius
- Umbreon


These pokemon arent a team just seperate pokemon im interested in training


thanks in advance

xx

♣Gawain♣ April 25th, 2008 4:16 PM

Umm.... Your moveset is somewhat not really good. YOUR movesets should be:

Hydropump
Blizzard
Safeguard
Recover

My nature is Modest, but yours is great.

Kishijoten April 25th, 2008 4:24 PM

your moveset it pretty good but it would be better if your milotic has these moves instead

ice beam
hydro pump
giga impact
safe gaurd

my milotic has a gentle nature your milotic is pretty good

luke April 25th, 2008 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuantumForce (Post 3531038)
Umm.... Your moveset is somewhat not really good. YOUR movesets should be:

Hydropump
Blizzard
Safeguard
Recover

My nature is Modest, but yours is great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninetalesbloom (Post 3531060)
your moveset it pretty good but it would be better if your milotic has these moves instead

ice beam
hydro pump
giga impact
safe gaurd

my milotic has a gentle nature your milotic is pretty good

Those are both terrible move sets.

Your move set is fine. Good EVs are: 212 HP / 100 Def / 246 SDef

luke April 25th, 2008 5:38 PM

I'm thinking of using Qwilfish in rain. Opinions?

sims796 April 25th, 2008 5:43 PM

I say it's a pretty good idea. It does have good stats, and especially good speed-for a UU Rain swimer.

A great movepool to boot. Or good enough. It has SD. Sounds good. You don't need a set, do you?

luke April 25th, 2008 5:47 PM

I was thinking either support or Swords Dance. I'm also thinking of trying out Choice Band Dusknoir.

sims796 April 25th, 2008 5:50 PM

How about Rain Dance from someone else? ersonally, I always thought of the poke most benifitting from Rain or Sun shouldn't waste a moveslot for that move, such as Kindra. Rather, have someone else do it. Difference is, Kinggy is more defensive.

As such, I like the SD set, since his movepool is type shallow.

ABYAY April 25th, 2008 5:52 PM

[email protected]/Life Orb
Adamant (Rain in effect)/Jolly (If you wanna go without rain)
252atk/252HP/6spd (with rain), or 252atk/252spd/6HP

Swords Dance
Waterfall
Poison Jab
Explosion/Rain Dance (If you use Rain Dance, go with the first set.)

Qwilfish gets 412 spd with Rain in effect, and Rain Dance in the last slot will give you survivability, but Explosion nails those tough tanks, especially after SD.

(I'm not a Qwilfish expert, but that set looks good.)

I'd like to see CB Dusknoir. I was planning for one myself, but he lacks good STAB. Quake would be your strongest move.

luke April 25th, 2008 5:54 PM

I'm also looking for good rain starters (preferably not Kingdra or Bronzong).

Dusknoir @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 ATK / 6 Def or SDef
Adamant Nature

Shadow Sneak
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Thunderpunch / Fire Punch

sims796 April 25th, 2008 5:57 PM

Ludicolo is one.

Pokes that can resist water, well, that's obvious. Of course, we must thinnk of what is the most often used water move, special or physical. Whichever wall you would like to lose a moveslot on.

Xairmo April 25th, 2008 5:57 PM

What about Ludicolo as a rain starter?
EDIT: Sims beat me to it >.<

ABYAY April 25th, 2008 6:10 PM

Use Gyarados!

In reality, common rain dancers are Bronzong, Ludicolo, Toxicroak, and Kingdra.

Also, that set looks fine Blueberry.

luke April 25th, 2008 6:16 PM

Anyone uncommon who might be effective as a Rain Starter. I hate being common.

sims796 April 25th, 2008 6:22 PM

Toxicroak. An excellent set I've seeen (but for the sake of being a surprize,I won't say whom) had this Croak:

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Nature:???
Rain Dance
Substitute
Sucka Punch
Cross Chop
EV:???

Granted, I'll have to ask that particular person about his set in detail. But when used on me, it murdered. Granted, I was tired then, but he used it with great success, constantly healing de to Rainovers.

luke April 25th, 2008 6:38 PM

I would love to use Toxicroak, but I really want to use Qwilfish and having two non-levitating Poison-types on a team makes me nervous.

sims796 April 25th, 2008 6:44 PM

Understood.

Suicune, Lapras, Poliwrath, Wigglytuff, take your pick.

Yes, I said Tuff. Trying to get people to use it. Maybe Swampert. People waste a slot for Stealth Rock, why not Rain Dance? Possibly cause he's not immune.

Xairmo April 25th, 2008 6:45 PM

Toxicroak is a beast! Set up rain dance for its dry skin, a sub, and use focus punch! I've had one of those things rip through half my team

ABYAY April 25th, 2008 6:52 PM

Life Orb Toxicroak in Rain Dance STILL gains a little HP, even after the Orb saps some HP. Orb takes 10%, Rain restores 12.5%, as well as coming in on a boosted water move. (If Toxicroak has 270/300 HP, the Orb will take it to 240, but then rain comes in. You'll have 277 or 278, pending on whether it rounds up or not. In the end, consider it a hit powered by a non-draining Life Orb.)

luke April 25th, 2008 8:03 PM

Meh. Weather-based teams always seem so sloppily put together, but I want this team to be as effective as possible. So far I have:

Qwilfish
Starmie

Yeah. :(

sims796 April 25th, 2008 9:01 PM

Hum...so you'll need two Rain dancers at the least...

Archer April 25th, 2008 11:03 PM

Vaporeon is immune to Water, stopping the opponent abusing the Rain before you do. Its also sturdy enough.

Vaporeon @ Lefties/Wet Rock
Calm | Water Absorb
< 252 HP, 252 SDef, 6 Def >
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Wish
~ Rain Dance

Just an Idea...


Hadim Sinan Pasha April 25th, 2008 11:32 PM

Can I have a moveset for an Empoleon. Please include EV's and Nature.


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