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Starting to EV some hatched Magikarp and Horseas for Kingdras and Gyarados.
Need a good, bulky, DDancing set for both of them. |
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[email protected] 212 hp / 16 att / 180 def / 100 speed Adamant Nature - Taunt - Dragon Dance - Earthquake /Stone Edge - Waterfall / Ice Fang Bulky Gyara [email protected] Orb / Leftovers 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe Naughty / Adamant Nature Trait : Sniper. ~ Dragon Dance ~ Waterfall ~ Return ~ Draco Meteor / Hydro Pump / Substitute |
Im after a decent stratergy/moveset involving th following pokemon
- Camerupt - Machamp - Charizard - Octillery - Tropius - Umbreon These pokemon arent a team just seperate pokemon im interested in training thanks in advance xx |
Umm.... Your moveset is somewhat not really good. YOUR movesets should be:
Hydropump Blizzard Safeguard Recover My nature is Modest, but yours is great. |
your moveset it pretty good but it would be better if your milotic has these moves instead
ice beam hydro pump giga impact safe gaurd my milotic has a gentle nature your milotic is pretty good |
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Your move set is fine. Good EVs are: 212 HP / 100 Def / 246 SDef |
I'm thinking of using Qwilfish in rain. Opinions?
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I say it's a pretty good idea. It does have good stats, and especially good speed-for a UU Rain swimer.
A great movepool to boot. Or good enough. It has SD. Sounds good. You don't need a set, do you? |
I was thinking either support or Swords Dance. I'm also thinking of trying out Choice Band Dusknoir.
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How about Rain Dance from someone else? ersonally, I always thought of the poke most benifitting from Rain or Sun shouldn't waste a moveslot for that move, such as Kindra. Rather, have someone else do it. Difference is, Kinggy is more defensive.
As such, I like the SD set, since his movepool is type shallow. |
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Adamant (Rain in effect)/Jolly (If you wanna go without rain) 252atk/252HP/6spd (with rain), or 252atk/252spd/6HP Swords Dance Waterfall Poison Jab Explosion/Rain Dance (If you use Rain Dance, go with the first set.) Qwilfish gets 412 spd with Rain in effect, and Rain Dance in the last slot will give you survivability, but Explosion nails those tough tanks, especially after SD. (I'm not a Qwilfish expert, but that set looks good.) I'd like to see CB Dusknoir. I was planning for one myself, but he lacks good STAB. Quake would be your strongest move. |
I'm also looking for good rain starters (preferably not Kingdra or Bronzong).
Dusknoir @ Choice Band Ability: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 252 ATK / 6 Def or SDef Adamant Nature Shadow Sneak Ice Punch Earthquake Thunderpunch / Fire Punch |
Ludicolo is one.
Pokes that can resist water, well, that's obvious. Of course, we must thinnk of what is the most often used water move, special or physical. Whichever wall you would like to lose a moveslot on. |
What about Ludicolo as a rain starter?
EDIT: Sims beat me to it >.< |
Use Gyarados!
In reality, common rain dancers are Bronzong, Ludicolo, Toxicroak, and Kingdra. Also, that set looks fine Blueberry. |
Anyone uncommon who might be effective as a Rain Starter. I hate being common.
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Toxicroak. An excellent set I've seeen (but for the sake of being a surprize,I won't say whom) had this Croak:
[email protected] Nature:??? Rain Dance Substitute Sucka Punch Cross Chop EV:??? Granted, I'll have to ask that particular person about his set in detail. But when used on me, it murdered. Granted, I was tired then, but he used it with great success, constantly healing de to Rainovers. |
I would love to use Toxicroak, but I really want to use Qwilfish and having two non-levitating Poison-types on a team makes me nervous.
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Understood.
Suicune, Lapras, Poliwrath, Wigglytuff, take your pick. Yes, I said Tuff. Trying to get people to use it. Maybe Swampert. People waste a slot for Stealth Rock, why not Rain Dance? Possibly cause he's not immune. |
Toxicroak is a beast! Set up rain dance for its dry skin, a sub, and use focus punch! I've had one of those things rip through half my team
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Life Orb Toxicroak in Rain Dance STILL gains a little HP, even after the Orb saps some HP. Orb takes 10%, Rain restores 12.5%, as well as coming in on a boosted water move. (If Toxicroak has 270/300 HP, the Orb will take it to 240, but then rain comes in. You'll have 277 or 278, pending on whether it rounds up or not. In the end, consider it a hit powered by a non-draining Life Orb.)
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Meh. Weather-based teams always seem so sloppily put together, but I want this team to be as effective as possible. So far I have:
Qwilfish Starmie Yeah. :( |
Hum...so you'll need two Rain dancers at the least...
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Vaporeon is immune to Water, stopping the opponent abusing the Rain before you do. Its also sturdy enough.
Vaporeon @ Lefties/Wet Rock Calm | Water Absorb < 252 HP, 252 SDef, 6 Def > ~ Surf ~ Ice Beam ~ Wish ~ Rain Dance Just an Idea... |
Can I have a moveset for an Empoleon. Please include EV's and Nature.
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