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PokeUser45 May 23rd, 2008 10:48 PM

Alright thank you Pinoccio, I could of put down WiFi battling down.

Hadim Sinan Pasha May 23rd, 2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinocchio (Post 3604920)
Is this Infernape for an ingame team or for competitive battling?
Because if it is for Ingame I suppose it is fine.
If it is for competitive battling you need a lot of help.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
Effort Points: 24 Atk // 252 Sp Atk // 232 Spe

Hidden Power [Ice] / Grass Knot
Flamethrower
Close Combat
Nasty Plot

Or what about:
Infernape @ Life Orb
Nature: Jolly
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
Swords Dance
Stone Edge/Grass Knot

or you could go with:
Infernape @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Flamethrower
Nasty plot
Hidden Power [Ice]/Close Combat/Focus Blast
Grass Knot

But the quoted moveset was good as well.

Quote:

Can someone give me some good movesets for a Zapdos?? Was thinking possibly as a lead but some different variations to pick from would be good.
Well, haven't done this before but here goes my version of a Zapdos

Zapdos @ Choice Specs/Leftovers
Modest <252SP.ATK/252SPD/6HP>
Agility/Rain Dance
Thunderbolt/Thunder
Hidden Power [Ice]
Drill Peck/Substitute/Roost

First time I've done a moveset for a legendary. I'm not the best but I guess that's what you could do with it. I'm not the best with EV's though so yeah, just see what others say.

Pinocchio May 23rd, 2008 11:05 PM

Daveyboy:
Zapdos @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Effort Points: 252 HP // 100 Def // 100 Sp Atk // 52 Spe

Baton Pass
Agility
Thunderbolt / Charge Beam
Hidden Power [Ice] / [Grass]

A good lead capable of passing boosts and dealing some decent damage.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Effort Points: 252 HP // 220 Def // 36 Spe

Roost
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power [Ice] / [Grass]
Thunder Wave

Capable of taking multiple hits before it just heals with Roost.

Dani_X May 24th, 2008 2:53 AM

Standard DP McGar's moveset and ev's please.

Dark Azelf May 24th, 2008 4:46 AM

I find Roar quite useful on defensive Zappy aswell^^



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani_X (Post 3605567)
Standard DP McGar's moveset and ev's please.

There is no D/P standard "McGar" its kinda extinct. The closest thing you get to it is : -


[email protected] Orb
Hasty Nature
136 Atk / 122 Sp.A / 252 Speed
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Explosion

OHKO's both Snorlax and Blissey with Explosion, 2hkos both with Focus Punch and OHKOS Weavile and T-Tar with F-Punch aswell.

Angelic Diablo May 24th, 2008 5:39 AM

What exactly does MS Heatran look like... am thinking of using it but want to know what to soft reset for

Aquilae May 24th, 2008 6:27 AM

I don't think MS Heatran would work well, because about the only physical move that warrants mention is Explosion.

Bulky Waters can be taken down with HP Grass, basically it is the special walls, Blissey and Snorlax, that give Heatran problems. Nothing in Heatran's moves would do enough damage to off these too - no Fighting moves. Explosion grants a 250 BP and an instant halve of defence making it an OHKO.

Heatran does gain a few nice physical attacks namely EQ and Stone Edge, but no boosting move and base 90 Attack which won't hurt at all, and no way to use its STABs - Steel is a rather poor attacking type.

tylerowicz May 24th, 2008 6:54 AM

is dusknoir a good mixed wall because of his bulky defense and sp.def??

Dark Azelf May 24th, 2008 6:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3606046)
What exactly does MS Heatran look like... am thinking of using it but want to know what to soft reset for

[email protected] Orb / Leftovers / Shed Shell
42 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth power
- Metal Sound
- Hidden power [Grass/ice/Electric] / Taunt


Here after a Metal Sound a Life Orb Fire Blast 2hko's Blissey.

Hidden power Grass has a chance to ohko 252 hp / 0 sp.def bold standard suicune after a Ms (its also a useful tool for beating swampert). Hp Ice is for dragons mostly, however IIRC, a life orb Fire Blast 2hkos Garchomp, Salamence. Hp Electric allows you to hit Gyarados and still granting you coverage vs bulky waters not named swampert, this does create a free switch in for dugtrio however, so you may want to use a shed shell with that.

Shed Shell allows you to escape from Duggy as mentioned previously. Taunt can shut down blissey for a few turns and helps if you cant get a Hidden power, other options in that last slot if a certain HP isnt accessible to you, would be Dragon Pulse and explosion really.



EDIT :::


Quote:

is dusknoir a good mixed wall because of his bulky defense and sp.def??
Yep,

[email protected]
252 HP / 76 DEF / 180 SP.DEF
Careful Nature
- Thunderpunch
- Shadow Sneak / Fire Punch
- Will-o-wisp
- Pain Split

Aquilae May 24th, 2008 7:21 AM

I think I misread MS as Mixed Sweeper Heatran and not Metal Sound Heatran >.>

Anyway I disagree with the statement that Dusknoir makes a good mixed wall. Dusknoir is primarily used for its immunities and Spin blocking - hence Thunderpunch and Shadow Sneak, for Starmie.
Lack of reliable recovery hurts Dusknoir, as well as being weak to Pursuit, an almost surefire way of inviting Heracross in. I feel that if Dusknoir is being utilised as a mixed wall of sorts, Fire Punch is a necessity to stop Heracross, a major problem for Dusknoir.

I reiterate, Dusknoir is being used for its immunities, it is by far outclassed in defensive stats and typing by several other pokemon.

sims796 May 24th, 2008 7:23 AM

Looking at this team:

Sceptile
Dusknoir
Raichu
Vileplume
Hitmontop
Grumpig

I am going to replace either (or both) Hitmontop or Dusknoir. However, I'm not too sure on what. I would like two defensive pokes, other than Hayriama. What would do? Dusknoir has been a great wall for me (for me, Aqua, at least) , and Top was my Ttar counter. But with those two gone, I'd need anoother wall other than Weezing & Gliscor, and another Ttar counter.

tylerowicz May 24th, 2008 11:09 AM

hey im wondering
is there any eveelution that can learn agility and swords dance/calm mind (and obviously baton pass) ??
if not
is there any other POKEMON with high defenses that can learn them?

Xairmo May 24th, 2008 11:33 AM

Espeon can learn calm mind and baton pass, but Espeon's defenses aren't the best.

sims796 May 24th, 2008 11:35 AM

Leafeon & Gliscor gets to pass Swords Dance, but Scizor passes both SD & Agility.

Anti May 24th, 2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3606892)
Leafeon & Gliscor gets to pass Swords Dance, but Scizor passes both SD & Agility.

Don't forget that Gliscor also gets Rock Polish, which is Agility with a different name really.

tylerowicz May 24th, 2008 1:47 PM

hmm... is scizors defense and sp.defense both good??
cuz i want it just to be able to baton pass agility and swords dance
while taking hits

El Gofre May 24th, 2008 1:53 PM

BP Scizor:
[email protected]
Impish
148HP/176Def/148Spd
Baton Pass
Swords Dance/Agility
Iron Head/X Scissor
Roost

Standard BP set. You can also pass iron defence if you feel so inclined.
(I might have th EV spread wrong, it's from shoddy and looks a bit strange. I'll edit should i find it's worng)

Anti May 24th, 2008 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3607156)
hmm... is scizors defense and sp.defense both good??
cuz i want it just to be able to baton pass agility and swords dance
while taking hits

Def, yes. SDef, no.

You aren't going to find anything that can take phys and spec hits that can also BP 2x speed and attack boosts. Defensively, Gliscor is probably your best bet. Scizor works too.

Dark Azelf May 24th, 2008 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3607156)
hmm... is scizors defense and sp.defense both good??
cuz i want it just to be able to baton pass agility and swords dance
while taking hits

Yep, both its defenses are good 100 base def and 80 base sp.def


Try the standard

[email protected]
impish nature
184 HP / 176 Def / 148 Speed
~ Swords Dance / Agility
~ Baton Pass
~ X-Scissor / Iron Head
~ Roost

tylerowicz May 24th, 2008 2:12 PM

i also have another question
what is lanturns purpose??
mix wall?? sp.wall??
im wondering

RespectfullyDesired May 24th, 2008 2:26 PM

Can someone give me a Metagross moveset Serious nature?

And evs please, I want it to be a steel wall.

Dark Azelf May 24th, 2008 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerowicz (Post 3607260)
i also have another question
what is lanturns purpose??
mix wall?? sp.wall??
im wondering

yeah, its a special Tank/Wall.

Popuri May 24th, 2008 2:33 PM

Can I get a team for the Battle Frontier in Emerald? I am confused as to what Pokemon I should bring to what places. (Sorry if I'm not specific enough.)

tylerowicz May 24th, 2008 3:27 PM

im just wondering
theres no baton passer that can learn calm mind or swords dance?
last time i asked for agility
who cares bout that now
im wondering bout swords dance (or any other attack uping move) and calm mind (or a sp.def upper)

Anti May 24th, 2008 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popuri (Post 3607341)
Can I get a team for the Battle Frontier in Emerald? I am confused as to what Pokemon I should bring to what places. (Sorry if I'm not specific enough.)

for the battle pyramid, use a CB Dodrio with Run Away. That beats most of the Pyramid easily.

the rest...just use Jumpman's team. It's on smogon and youtube, so you can search it. Basically though, it's CBmence, CurseLax, and CalmCune.


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