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airconditioning June 4th, 2008 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crocadilius (Post 3642103)
But I have tried to post it as a new thread twice now and it STILL hasnt shown up... what is going on? :paranoid:

That happens a lot, it seems. Try including EVs (even if you're unsure)- a mod should approve it if you do.

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Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3641842)
I know I am sorry about mine and Lutia's little "chat":nervous:.
She called me last night and told me what she thought of pokecommunity so I dont think We will hear from her again....Well.....until the next time I insult luvdisk anyway!

Aww, sounds like I missed out on something fun. :(

Also, I don't think anyone was ever insinuating that Luvdisc is actually useful.

Sexycheese June 5th, 2008 2:00 AM

Yep your right you did miss out but mabey that is a good thing cuz she is mental (no joke!)

Oh yeah, how is this for a darkrai? (Before anyone says anything yes it is a hack and no it is not mine, my mate asked for an idea what to use But I am clueless ....)

Darkrai @Leftovers
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
what nature to use....?
-Dark Void
-Dark Pulse
-Taunt
-Calm Mind

Dark Azelf June 5th, 2008 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3645133)
Yep your right you did miss out but mabey that is a good thing cuz she is mental (no joke!)

Oh yeah, how is this for a darkrai? (Before anyone says anything yes it is a hack and no it is not mine, my mate asked for an idea what to use But I am clueless ....)

Darkrai @Leftovers
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
what nature to use....?
-Dark Void
-Dark Pulse
-Taunt
-Calm Mind

I kinda dont like mono-attack darkrai sets, Dialga owns you. But use timid for that set.


I really prefer this set.

[email protected] Orb
156 Atk / 176 Sp.A / 176 Speed
Hasty / Naive Nature
- Dark Void
- Thunder
- Focus Punch
- Dark Pulse


No more Icy Wind Blissey and Dialga problems =D.

Sexycheese June 5th, 2008 6:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3645617)
I kinda dont like mono-attack darkrai sets, Dialga owns you. But use timid for that set.


I really prefer this set.

[email protected] Orb
156 Atk / 176 Sp.A / 176 Speed
Hasty / Naive Nature
- Dark Void
- Thunder
- Focus Punch
- Dark Pulse


No more Icy Wind Blissey and Dialga problems =D.

That is true thanks a lot! Oh yeah could somone rate my Aself please?


Life Orb
EVs: 36 Atk / 220 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Nasty Plot
-Hidden Power

Many thanks

Matt-O June 5th, 2008 6:53 AM

What is that Azelfs HP and what purpose are those Att. EVs supposed to be serving? You have no Physical moves. The reason some Azelfs have Att. EVs is that they have Explosion.

Dark Azelf June 5th, 2008 9:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3645627)
That is true thanks a lot! Oh yeah could somone rate my Aself please?


Life Orb
EVs: 36 Atk / 220 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Nasty Plot
-Hidden Power

Many thanks



36 hp <<Allows to survive a weaviles Pursuit should you stay in and a Specs Starmie surf =D


Unless you are going for Explosion and/or U-Turn which dont have any value on the Nasty Plot set.

But yeah, thats fine.




As for my query, Bronzong has got pretty decent attack. So what do we do with anything with half decent attack ? Slap a choice band on it lol

[email protected] Band
252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 DEF
Brave Nature
Trait : Levitate
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Explosion / Payback

Obligatory EarthSlide for coverage. Rock Slide aso hits Zapdos, who resists steel and ground. Im thinking that since zong will almost always go last, Paybacks power will double, and along with Choice Band, will wreck bulky ghosts and psychics wanting to switch in. Explosion is just explosion and is awesome no matter what its on. Gyro Ball is this sets main selling point, between Brave nature and Choice band, i think it should rack up some serious damage.

What do you think ?

Matt-O June 5th, 2008 12:18 PM

Looks okay to me Dark Azelf. Magnet Rise Magnezone or Probopass will rape it but other than that I'd say it could work.

June 5th, 2008 4:33 PM

Good moves for Suicune?
 
Hi, I'm trying to get some good moves for my Suicune.

Any ideas?

El Gofre June 5th, 2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo Man (Post 3646440)
Looks okay to me Dark Azelf. Magnet Rise Magnezone or Probopass will rape it but other than that I'd say it could work.

Yeah those probopasses are all over the place ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Post 3647114)
Hi, I'm trying to get some good moves for my Suicune.

Any ideas?

[email protected]
Bold
252HP/252Def/6SpDef
Calm Mind
Surf
Roar
Rest/Ice Beam/HP Electric

Standard CM Cune.

jammi567 June 6th, 2008 2:31 AM

I've just started my Pokemon Diamond game again because i simply couldn't defeat the Elite 4 with the pokemon i had. I can't remember the team that i had (i deleted the file ages ago now), but i was wondering if somebody could suggest a team that could defeat them easily without putting too much effort in (i want to save that for after i beat them, lol).

I don't have trading capability with Pearl, nor with any of the 3rd Generation games, and i'm prepared to start again, if necessary.

My team is:

"Kazza" (traded pokemon from woman in Oreburgh City), level 15; moves(s): Teleport

Chimchar; level 13; move(s): scratch, leer, ember, taunt

Geodude; level 13; move(s): tackle, defense curl, rock throw, rock polish

Starly; level 12; move(s): tackle, growl, quick attack, wing attack

Shinx; level 12; move(s): tackle, leer, charge

Shellos; level 9; move(s): mud-slap; mud sport, harden, water pulse

I'm currently at Floaroma Town, trying to get Team Galactic out of the Valley Windworks, where i am also training my pokemon.

I'm only asking my question now, so that i have plenty of time to train them as i complete the main storyline, rather then as one big dollop at the end.

El Gofre June 6th, 2008 2:59 AM

The elite four really doesnt need any effort to beat. The game is aimed at ages 3+ and the difficulty matches that. Just play through the game, level up as much as possible, catch the box-legendry of your version and try and hit for super-effective damage. It really shouldnt be that much of a challenge.

jammi567 June 6th, 2008 3:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3648092)
The elite four really doesnt need any effort to beat. The game is aimed at ages 3+ and the difficulty matches that. Just play through the game, level up as much as possible, catch the box-legendry of your version and try and hit for super-effective damage. It really shouldnt be that much of a challenge.

I've already tried that strategy, which is why i'm asking for help in how to defeat them. Surely the purpose of this thread is to help everybody out, not effectivly critisise them.

El Gofre June 6th, 2008 3:25 AM

I wasnt criticising, I was offering the only advice you effectively need. There are no established stregies since 99% of people found them extremely easy to bead. But if you need more help, I'd recommend the following:
Bug Dude: Infernape, flamethrower or equivilant on bugs, close combat or equivilant for drapion
Ground Lady: Gastrodon, Surf or equivilant on rocks/grounds, toxic and surf for water/grounds
Fire dude: Gastrodon, Surf or equivilant on fire types/Rock Types, earthquake on Normal types and luxray chrunches his ghost
Psychic Dude: Infernape's flamethrower on Zong, Straptor's ariel ace or equivilent on medicham, luxray crunches the rest.
Champ: Switch around as to hit for SE damage.

You shouldnt need muh more advice than that. If you had trouble first time round it was probably due to their levels being too low. Since you have diamond dilaga's roar of time can usually get rid of 50% of any poke's health so make use of that should the counter I've put above be dead. Then switch to another pokemon revive the needed one again.

sims796 June 6th, 2008 5:22 AM

He is absolutley right. Blindly level up, you should do fine. No real strategy for a CPU player.

KantoJohto June 6th, 2008 6:51 AM

I finally understand the EV and nature stuff completely now I need to understand IVs oh mind boggling. Anyway, what would be the ideal moveset for a Mild Mudkip? I restarted my game because I wanted to start fresh and setup SOME ev trained pokemon. By the end of my Sapphire game I want my team to look like this:

~Swampert(Mild)
~Manectric
~Breloom
~Metagross
~Salamence
~Skarmory

So if anyone is willing to help figure out movesets for them it will greatly be appreciated

El Gofre June 6th, 2008 6:55 AM

Just to clarify, is this for an in-game team?

KantoJohto June 6th, 2008 7:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3648396)
Just to clarify, is this for an in-game team?

Well in temporary, I want a strong team to take on a friend with sick pokemon and moves which is why I decided to ev train

dragonfyre173 June 6th, 2008 7:02 AM

Anyone got good movesets/team for a ghost/dark team? I'm going to have Rotom, Froslass, Dusknoir, Houndoom, Honchkrow, and Tyranitar. What are some good movesets to protect them from their weaknesses and so forth?

El Gofre June 6th, 2008 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KantoJohto (Post 3648417)
Well in temporary, I want a strong team to take on a friend with sick pokemon and moves which is why I decided to ev train

In that case mixpert is your friend. You'll need to rebreed for relaxed though:
[email protected]
Relaxed
252HP/136Def/120SpAtt
Surf/Hydro Pump
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Rest/Roar

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfyre173 (Post 3648421)
Anyone got good movesets/team for a ghost/dark team? I'm going to have Rotom, Froslass, Dusknoir, Houndoom, Honchkrow, and Tyranitar. What are some good movesets to protect them from their weaknesses and so forth?

Monotype team rarely work, it's not advisable because you get swept by single attacks. For example, Garchomp destroys your entire team either with EQ (TTar, Houndoom, Frosglass) and the others die to STABed outrages. The lack of resistances and the reliance on those who do resist quicly mounts up in this kind of team.

dragonfyre173 June 6th, 2008 7:30 AM

Shmeh... oh well.. Although I didn't understand a few of the things you said, I get the idea.

Aquilae June 6th, 2008 7:52 AM

I kinda need help on deciding which pokemon would fill a specific niche for my team.

I'm looking for a Dragon-resistor which can take CBGarchomp Outrages, and can take down Celebi and Subseeder Abomasnow. Previously I had a RestTalk Heracross on that slot, but I needed a Steel for Outrage incase my primary counter is taken down.

Magmortified June 6th, 2008 7:57 AM

You could always try Heatran, which is A) Steel, and B) the bane of most Grass types.

Bad news is a predicted Earthquake from Chomp will be mean to Heatran, but we can't get everything in life. =P

El Gofre June 6th, 2008 8:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquilae (Post 3648555)
I kinda need help on deciding which pokemon would fill a specific niche for my team.

I'm looking for a Dragon-resistor which can take CBGarchomp Outrages, and can take down Celebi and Subseeder Abomasnow. Previously I had a RestTalk Heracross on that slot, but I needed a Steel for Outrage incase my primary counter is taken down.

As magmortified said, heatran takes Outrages but not EQs. Skarm could be an option, STABed SE brave birds should hurt.

airconditioning June 6th, 2008 8:01 AM

Skarmory, perhaps? Grass types aren't fond of STABed Brave Birds.

KantoJohto June 6th, 2008 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3648450)
In that case mixpert is your friend. You'll need to rebreed for relaxed though:
[email protected]
Relaxed
252HP/136Def/120SpAtt
Surf/Hydro Pump
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Rest/Roar



Monotype team rarely work, it's not advisable because you get swept by single attacks. For example, Garchomp destroys your entire team either with EQ (TTar, Houndoom, Frosglass) and the others die to STABed outrages. The lack of resistances and the reliance on those who do resist quicly mounts up in this kind of team.

But how am I ensured that I will get a relaxed Swampert? Like I could get a sassy one and then I would have to keep breeding to get a relaxed one right? If that's the case I may stick with the Mild Swampert and focus on his special attacks. I was thinking his moveset should be like: Ice Beam, Surf, Earthquake, Protect. Raise up his SpA stat by 120 and his HP stat by 252. I am really in the shuffle here lol


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