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devilicious June 11th, 2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3664367)
Never heard that rule before, I've never played anyone with a problem with using wishbliss :S

Shoddy Battle will be implementing that rule soon.
And I doubt we can find good Wishtungs online. ;_;

Dark Azelf June 11th, 2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3664364)
I really really like Lickilicky, but you do know that Event-exclusive moves are getting banned, right?

Wait until we have Custap Berry available. Then I'm sure Lickilicky usage will go up.

Its not 100% certain that there will be an event move ban to the best of my knowledge. Nothing has been guaranteedly decided yet. Correct me if im wrong lol

I think its kinda stupid being an event blanket ban tbh, MANY people work hard to get these events and then get told they cant use them ? Yeah, im sure people will listen to that...not, only cause for concern is Tickle wobby really, who wouldnt be a problem if some smart person wouldnt of woke up one morning and say "Imma put Wobby in OU" >_>.


Anyway, until then im gonna abuse event moves lol



Custap berry seems cool, especially on sub-ability pokemon =p

devilicious June 11th, 2008 12:18 PM

I believe their ban has been decided already, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, I imagine Custaplicky to run like

Lickilicky @ Custap Berry
Adamant/Brave
252 HP 252 Atk
- Counter
- Swords Dance
- Explosion
- Gyro Ball/Endure

Counter a hit, get low-health'd, activate Custap, Explode. If you predict a switch, SD. Gyro Ball is for Gengar, Endure for convenience.

Anti June 11th, 2008 12:40 PM

I love Lickilicky. Its support movepool is pretty awesome and it takes hits better than you'd think. You can bulky it up to Celebi's level if you want, which shows it's not too bad. That and everything but ghosts fear that SD Explosion.

Sexycheese June 12th, 2008 3:17 AM

Thank you for the shedinja movesets.
What is custap berry? I have never heard of it :/

Kejmur June 12th, 2008 5:29 AM

I need help with one more thing - Golduck's ability Cloud Nine could be useful on SS and Hail teams, switching off their Special Def (TTar and Hippo won't enjoy taking Focus Blast and Surf without SS cover :D), but there is a problem - how to use him in effective way in OU ? His stats aren't the greatest, but aren't that bad also. Maybe just to use some standard set with Choice Specs or Scarf and pass him Agility, Rock Polish or Nasty Plot/Calm Mind to give him more power ? By standard set I mean:

- Calm Mind/Hypnosis (or Substititute)
- Focus Blast (good combination with Cloud Nine)
- Surf/Hydro Pump (for STAB)
- Ice Beam

Yep, the only difference from standard UU set is Focus Blast used in place of Hidden Power. In other words I thought of maximizing Speed and Special Attack to try to use him as a spiker or with help of Calm Mind to raise his Special Def (but still 80 hp don't help you to use this variant and that's the reason I would prefer to use him as a Weather Switching Spiker). But if you have any idea for using Golduck in other way or just make proposition for EVs (because to tell the truth it's not my strong point) then it would be nice. This variant of Golduck is easily walled by Blissey/Snorlax or Bulky Waters, but I think it's not that bad on other Pokes. Or maybe just to try to use one of Hidden Powers ? Cheers and thx for any help.

Dark Azelf June 12th, 2008 5:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kejmur (Post 3666009)
I need help with one more thing - Golduck's ability Cloud Nine could be useful on SS and Hail teams, switching off their Special Def (TTar and Hippo won't enjoy taking Focus Blast and Surf without SS cover :D), but there is a problem - how to use him in effective way in OU ? His stats aren't the greatest, but aren't that bad also. Maybe just to use some standard set with Choice Specs or Scarf and pass him Agility, Rock Polish or Nasty Plot/Calm Mind to give him more power ? By standard set I mean:

- Calm Mind/Hypnosis (or Substititute)
- Focus Blast (good combination with Cloud Nine)
- Surf/Hydro Pump (for STAB)
- Ice Beam

Yep, the only difference from standard UU set is Focus Blast used in place of Hidden Power. In other words I thought of maximizing Speed and Special Attack to try to use him as a spiker or with help of Calm Mind to raise his Special Def (but still 80 hp don't help you to use this variant and that's the reason I would prefer to use him as a Weather Switching Spiker). But if you have any idea for using Golduck in other way or just make proposition for EVs (because to tell the truth it's not my strong point) then it would be nice. This variant of Golduck is easily walled by Blissey/Snorlax or Bulky Waters, but I think it's not that bad on other Pokes. Cheers and thx for any help.

Usually in OU, i use


[email protected] Orb
104 Attack / 252 Sp.A / 152 Speed
Mild Nature
- Cross Chop
- Hydro Pump / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden power Electric / Hypnosis

244 speed to outspeed Jolly T-Tar. Its kinda a cool set, especially for people who seem to think Blissey and Snorlax are counters lolz.Hidden power hits Gyarados and bulky waters mainly, but Hypnosis is there if you cant get it.

Kejmur June 12th, 2008 6:11 AM

Quote:

What is custap berry? I have never heard of it :/
Thanks for it Pokémon gets to move first just once in a pinch if I'm not mistaken ;).

And...

Quote:

[email protected] Orb
104 Attack / 252 Sp.A / 152 Speed
Mild Nature
- Cross Chop
- Hydro Pump / Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden power Electric / Hypnosis

244 speed to outspeed Jolly T-Tar. Its kinda a cool set, especially for people who seem to think Blissey and Snorlax are counters lolz.Hidden power hits Gyarados and bulky waters mainly, but Hypnosis is there if you cant get it.
I totally forgot that Golduck have Cross Chop ;). Thanks for set D_A, because it looks really nice and with wish support could be really effective ;).

Sexycheese June 12th, 2008 6:24 AM

Doesnt golduck work better as special sweeper like this?

Leftovers
30 HP / 252 SAtk / 228 Spd
Modest Nature
With Ability Cloud Nine (Obviosly lol)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Calm Mind
-Hypnosis

What about that?

sims796 June 12th, 2008 6:34 AM

Then your walled utterly by Blissey. Calm Mind won't stop Seismec Toss.

devilicious June 12th, 2008 7:54 AM

Not to mention Golduck isn't very fast, and with your EV spread it can't take physical hits.

Just use Dark_Azelf's set, which I have used and can say it's definately ♥.

@whoever asked;
Custap is a berry that lets you attack first the next turn after your HP has been lowered down to at least 1/3.

Xairmo June 12th, 2008 12:29 PM

Could I get sets for Regice, Registeel, and Regirock, please? ^.^

devilicious June 12th, 2008 12:38 PM

If you're going to request for simple, standard sets, you should just check Smogon.

Unless you want an opinion on something, that is. Otherwise, someone here will just copypaste a Smogon set.

SmashBrony June 12th, 2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmortified (Post 3663542)
If you're going to use things like Gengar, then, good gosh, man, just build a straightup OU team and build a seperate Ubers team. This is better to ensure success in both tiers instead of trying to make an interchangeable team that quite likely succeeds in neither.

As the others have said, the OUs that work out in Ubers require very different standard sets. Those standard sets don't tend to work out the best in OU. By definition of packing an interchangeable team you're going to need two different variants of the same Pokemon for general success. Which raises the question of why you're not using a seperate team altogether?

Uh....k.....(obiliously I can't explain it way I wanted to, so I just dropping it.)
I'm workin on both teams....for my uber one, would it better to have Spacial rend on my Darkrai instead of Thunder? (i'm running the mixed sweeper set from smogon but it don't mention Darkrai's event moves, Spacial rend & Roar of time.)
I'm also wondering if Scope lens would be a acceptable held item instead of Life orb, due to Spacial rend's high-critial hit ratio....(also, focus punch with a higher critial hit ratio would help....probaly still hax though...)Also, should I have metagross as my psyically defensive pokemon for the standrad team, or leave the heavy psyical hitting to my Garchomp & have a supportive psyically defensive pokemon that can hurt the foe bad when needed, like Forretress or Scizor?

Dark Azelf June 12th, 2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Akasuna no Sasori (Post 3667003)
Could I get sets for Regice, Registeel, and Regirock, please? ^.^

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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Calm nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Seismic Toss / Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

yep.

[email protected]
Careful nature
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Sp.D
- Toxic / Thunderwave
- Earthquake / Hammer Arm
- Stone Edge
- ice Punch / Stealth Rock

Support.

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Same spread and nature as above
~ Stone Edge / Rock Slide
~ Hammer Arm / Earthquake
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

Rest-talk.

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Same spread and nature as above
~ Curse
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake / Fire Punch
~ Ice Punch / Rest / Explosion

Curse.

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Relaxed Nature
252 HP / 56 Def / 200 Sp.D
- Thunder
- Ice Punch
- Toxic
- Hammer Arm / Earthquake

Thunder pwns those Skarmory and Forry idiots who go lol set up fodder. It also hits bulk waters hard and owns Gyarados and has a cool paralysis rate. You may use Zap cannon if you are brave >=]. Hammer Arm dominates Porygon-z, T-Tar, and most importantly Magnet Rise Magnezone, whilst EQ hits Metagross, jirachi etc..

Anti will disagree, but BY far the most successful registeel set ive ever used.

Supreme Dirt June 12th, 2008 1:21 PM

Any chance of a Physical set for Darkrai? And don't tell me to use a special set - just give me a physical set.
As well, perhaps a physical Phione set would be nice as well.

Dark Azelf June 12th, 2008 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Dirt (Post 3667153)
Any chance of a Physical set for Darkrai? And don't tell me to use a special set - just give me a physical set.
As well, perhaps a physical Phione set would be nice as well.

>_<

[email protected] Orb
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP
- Swords Dance
- Dark Void
- Brick Break
- Payback / Shadow Claw

Fighting and Ghost hit everything in the game for at least neutral. If you opt for payback, you get a stab move, but get walled by Heracross.

OR

[email protected] Band
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP
- Payback
- Pursuit
- Brick Break
- Return / Aerial Ace



[email protected] Band
252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- U-Turn
- Return
- Waterfall
- Toxic / <Insert something here due to lack of better options =/>


Or


[email protected] / Life Orb / Wet Rock
252 HP / 252 ATT / 6 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Rain Dance




I dub thee Phiophail and Darkfail !!! XD


Good luck btw, you'll need it lol

devilicious June 12th, 2008 1:49 PM

Eh, Physical Darkrai?

I can think of something like
Darkrai @ Leftovers
Adamant/Jolly ~ 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Swords Dance
- Taunt / Dark Void
- Dark Void / Aerial Ace/ Focus Punch / Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Pursuit / Poison Jab
- Shadow Claw / Focus Punch / Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Pursuit / Poison Jab

Dark Void, SD on the switch, do something with your crappy physical movepool. Or maybe you can make one just to kill Giratina or something. They'll switch Giratina in hoping to absorb the Dark Void, but you SD that turn. Then they'll try to burn you, but you Taunt. Then you kill it Shadow Claw, which also hits Lugia which may try to PHaze you. Not really recommended, but sounds fun to use.

And for Phione, I'd go with;

Phione @ Leftovers / Damp Rock
Adamant ~ 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
- Rain Dance
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Toxic / Return / Psych Up / U-Turn

Hydration set. Walled completely by Empoleon. If you don't pack Toxic, it's also walled by Quagsire, Poliwrath, Politoed, Vaporeon. If you don't pack Return, it's walled by Toxicroak. Psych Up may help you copy something's boosts, in case they decide to set up on you. U-Turn helps you get out when one of those Pokémon I mentioned is sent out.

Supreme Dirt June 12th, 2008 2:10 PM

Darkrai @ Leftovers
Adamant 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
(Why did you put Sp. Atk?)
- Swords Dance
- Dark Void
- Pursuit
- Shadow Claw

I think I'll go with this. If I've already SD'd, I'll pursuit them on the switch.
And Shadow Claw owns their Giratina/Mewtwo/Insert Pokemon with low Defense.

Phione @ Leftovers
Adamant ~ 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
- Substitute
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Return

I'll sub and then Rest it off. This'll mesh well with my Rain Dance team.

devilicious June 12th, 2008 2:19 PM

Oh, my friend came up with an interesting PhyPhione set. We shall call it the Phailone.

Phione @ Toxic Orb/Flame Orb
Adamant ~ 252 Atk / 252 HP / 6 Def
- Waterfall
- Rain Dance
- Rest
- Facade / Fling

Yes, it's pure novelty, but sounds fun. Phione will stay Poisoned every turn, but won't take Poison damage thanks to Hydration, meaning Facade gets even more powerful than Return. If you go with Flame Orb, don't use Facade but Fling, so you can Burn one of the opponent's physical treats.

I'm sure Smogoners would have a field trip to hell and bash this set like there's no tomorrow, but don't we all like some fun sometimes?

Dark Azelf June 12th, 2008 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Dirt (Post 3667299)
Darkrai @ Leftovers
Adamant 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
(Why did you put Sp. Atk?)
- Swords Dance
- Dark Void
- Pursuit
- Shadow Claw

I think I'll go with this. If I've already SD'd, I'll pursuit them on the switch.
And Shadow Claw owns their Giratina/Mewtwo/Insert Pokemon with low Defense.

Phione @ Leftovers
Adamant ~ 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
- Substitute
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Return

I'll sub and then Rest it off. This'll mesh well with my Rain Dance team.

Just a note, one that first set replace Pursuit for Brick break, or Dialga owns you. Dark and Ghost have poor coverage together , so you need a fighting move for coverage, and the day giratina has poor defenses is the day pokemon ends lol

Raff June 12th, 2008 4:29 PM

Hey can I get some help with my team? Here they are.

Vaporeon - Aqua Ring, Shadow Ball/Acid Armor/Haze Surf, Ice Beam.

Arcanine - Extreme Speed, Thunder Fang, Flare Blitz, Flamethrower

Gengar - Thunder Bolt, Shadow Ball, Taunt, Sludge Bomb

Gliscor - Earthquake, Stone Edge, Ice Fang, Stealth Rock/Baton Pass/ U-Turn/Aerial Ace

And now I need two, more pokemon and move set help...I had a Venusaur and a Salemence...but I took those out, just didn't feel like usin' em'. So..please help me? Thanks to all who help me.

devilicious June 12th, 2008 4:54 PM

Raff, you should also tell us their EVs and Natures. Otherwise, it won't be easy to help.

Gulpin June 12th, 2008 6:27 PM

I need a team with the following:
Altaria - HP/Status
Ampharos - Special Sweeper
Umbreon - Physical Sweeper (or whichever one of Eevees evos will work best)
Lickilicky - Physical Wall
Gorebyss - Special Wall
Gallade - Filler/Extra

Raff June 12th, 2008 7:12 PM

Oh, sorry. And I don't and CAN'T Calculate Ev's...heh..never learned...to confusing..and I don't really matter bout' natures much...I don't know what ALL of em; do.

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Ability - Water Abosrb
Nature:Gentle
Shadow Ball/Acid Armor/Haze
Aqua Ring
Ice Beam
Surf/Water Pulse

[email protected](don't have a held item.)
Nature: Adament
Ability - Flash Fire
Flamethrower
Flare Blitz
Thunder Fang
Extreme Speed

[email protected] Sludge
Ability - Levitate
Nature: Hasty
Taunt
Thunderbolt
Sludge bomb
Shadow Ball

[email protected]'t think of a held item...
Ability - Hyper Cutter
Nature: Bold
Stealth Rock/Aerial Ace/Baton Pass/ U-Turn
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Ice Fang
Earthquake

EDIT: I wasn't sure to ask this or not..but would a Weavile do good in this party?


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