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devilicious June 15th, 2008 5:54 PM

Standard Smogon Mixmence. Time to increase my postcount, thanks to you lazy people!

Salamence @ Life Orb
120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Intimidate
Mild/Rash
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw / Crunch / Roost

BBreak, Meteor and your fire attack will hit everything for huge amounts of damage. Your fourth move is recommended to be one of those: Dragon Claw is for a more reliable Dragon-typed move. Crunch is for Cresselia and Dusknoir. Roost is there in case you want to recover some Life Orb damage.

Lalapizzame June 15th, 2008 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3676298)
Standard Smogon Mixmence. Time to increase my postcount, thanks to you lazy people!

Salamence @ Life Orb
120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Intimidate
Mild/Rash
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw / Crunch / Roost

BBreak, Meteor and your fire attack will hit everything for huge amounts of damage. Your fourth move is recommended to be one of those: Dragon Claw is for a more reliable Dragon-typed move. Crunch is for Cresselia and Dusknoir. Roost is there in case you want to recover some Life Orb damage.

Dragon Claw is not breaking any walls and isn't really needed. =/ Losing Roost and being in Sandstorm with Life Orb is suicidal. >=O Crunch can be used though for those two though. =]

4gotten kazama June 15th, 2008 7:40 PM

Well I only have 3 that Im askin about before I get a good understandin

Wobbufett-whats the best nature? what should I focus evs on and is his basic moveset good?

Bastiodon,Rampardos-I dont kno to much about them jus need to kno prefered natures and movesset

Thanks and sorry if Im doin it wrong

airconditioning June 15th, 2008 8:05 PM

For Wobbuffet, it depends. Jolly Wobbuffet can outrun most walls and PP stall them to death. If you want to go standard Wobba, go with a +Def or +SDef nature, and invest EVs in both defenses.

Bastiodon, don't bother. It's 4x weak to Fighting and Ground, two types that are extremely common.

As for Rampardos, go with ScarfDos. He can outrun a number of faster threats, such as Gengar. Go with...

Rampardos @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
- HEAD SMAAAAASH
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Pursuit/ Focus Punch

It's possible to put Stone Edge over Head Smash, but doing so would void your rights of being a man. Seriously, you may as well put on your bikini and go sunbathing.

4gotten kazama June 15th, 2008 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3676606)
For Wobbuffet, it depends. Jolly Wobbuffet can outrun most walls and PP stall them to death. If you want to go standard Wobba, go with a +Def or +SDef nature, and invest EVs in both defenses.


As for Rampardos, go with ScarfDos. He can outrun a number of faster threats, such as Gengar. Go with...

Rampardos @ Choice Scarf
Jolly
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
- HEAD SMAAAAASH
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Pursuit/ Focus Punch

It's possible to put Stone Edge over Head Smash, but doing so would void your rights of being a man. Seriously, you may as well put on your bikini and go sunbathing.

all noted and thanks could u explain how wobb would outrun most threats and walls/pps also is leftovers the best hold items for him? if this is to much jus pm it to me and still thanks again...

Sexycheese June 16th, 2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3669365)
Never use fly. EVER
Sorry, but it has no use whatsoever.
Anyways, rant over :P
Standard Aerodactyl:
[email protected] Band
Jolly
252Att/216Spd/42HP
EQ
Stone Edge
Fire Fang
Ice Fang
I myself don't run the HP EVs, but apparently they're standard. Some people also run rock slide over Stone edge since it has better accuracy and high flinch rate.

Standard Dragonite:
[email protected] Orb/Leftovers
Jolly
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Ounch/Fire Blast
Earthquake
DDNite, quite a beast.

I was looking back on old posts and I found this about aerodactal, I have to say I dissagree about fly. In most cases nyes it is really bad but it can be used for the pressuredayctal stratagy (I take no credit for this moveset as yet I know not who came up with it)

Leftovers
252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
Ability: Pressure
-Substitute
-Protect
-Fly
-Rock Slide/Earthquake

I use this in UN and I find this can irritate oppoments greatly, simply wear down their pp while evadeing attack! (Good fo a poke that you are having trouble with :) )

sims796 June 16th, 2008 7:38 AM

Or, they can switch out to an appropriate counter while you are up in the air. Bad enough Aero is fragile. Then weak to Taunt. Hell, that's Gya weak. Aero should never be Gya weak. While you Fly, I can either

-Switch out
-Charge up
-Taunt when you come down
-Smash you hard as soon as you land, breaking your weak sub.

mirelx16 June 16th, 2008 9:10 AM

what yall think?
 
My Diamond Team (tell me what you think):

1. Sparky (Luxray) LVL 100
Modest
1. Discharge
2. Thunderbolt
3. Iron Tail
4. Crunch

2. Spikey (Rhypherior) LVL 100
Impish
1. Earthquake
2. Stone Edge
3. Swords Dance
4. Megahorn

3. Milo (Milotic) LVL 100
Bold
1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Recover
4. Hypnosis

4. Razly (Roserade) LVL 100
Timid
1. Sunny Day
2. Weather Ball
3. Leaf Storm
4. Sludge Bomb

5. Blaze (Charizard) LVL 100
Adamant
1. SolarBeam
2. Seismic Toss
3. Flamethrower
4. Fly

6. Zues (Arceus) LVL 100
Rash
1. Judgment
2. Aeroblast
3. Hydro Cannon
4. Frenzy Plant
^
I was thikin about replacing Arceus with a Sableye with the movies Lock-on, Fissure, Sheer cold, Horn Drill. Naughty Nature...

airconditioning June 16th, 2008 9:38 AM

Anything can beat the Elite Four, so this doesn't really warrant a rate.

sims796 June 16th, 2008 9:50 AM

A team of 5 Magikarps & a Weedle, carefully EV'ed to lvl 100, can barely crash your game, as they will destroy the elite four.'

I may be exaggerating, but I'm too scared to try.

Sexycheese June 17th, 2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3677786)
A team of 5 Magikarps & a Weedle, carefully EV'ed to lvl 100, can barely crash your game, as they will destroy the elite four.'

I may be exaggerating, but I'm too scared to try.

Well....I beat the elite 4 with 5 feebass's at lv 65 :) (no idea why I did it lol)

KantoJohto June 17th, 2008 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi (Post 3676298)
Standard Smogon Mixmence. Time to increase my postcount, thanks to you lazy people!

Salamence @ Life Orb
120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Intimidate
Mild/Rash
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw / Crunch / Roost

BBreak, Meteor and your fire attack will hit everything for huge amounts of damage. Your fourth move is recommended to be one of those: Dragon Claw is for a more reliable Dragon-typed move. Crunch is for Cresselia and Dusknoir. Roost is there in case you want to recover some Life Orb damage.

I like this set but only problem is that I am playing the 3rd generation games, since I don't have a DS, my sister does but she plays with Pokemon Pearl

Dark Azelf June 17th, 2008 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4gotten kazama (Post 3676731)
all noted and thanks could u explain how wobb would outrun most threats and walls/pps also is leftovers the best hold items for him? if this is to much jus pm it to me and still thanks again...

Jolly 252 SPEED, Switch in on Stealth Rock or some other dum move and Safeguard to protect from status and Encore =D. Remove all their non-attack move pp and force them to either struggle or attack and you counter/ mirror coat them to death.

Set is

[email protected]
252 DEF / 252 SPEED / 6 sp.def
Jolly Nature
- Safeguard
- Encore
- Counter
- Mirror Coat


You can put the def evs in Hp aswell or sp.def if you wish, depending on which sort of hits you want it to take.


Next, this is your Standard set.

[email protected]
252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP
Bold Nature
- Encore
- mirror Coat
- Counter
- Safeguard / Charm


And lastly, evil set

[email protected]
252 DEF / 252 SP.DEF / 6 HP
Bold Nature
- Tickle
- Counter
- mirror Coat
- Encore

Best way to abuse this abusive set is to use it in conjunction with a Powerful CB Pursuit user such as T-Tar or Weavile, or even Scizor. Encore something stupid and Tickle, so they get -6 att and - 6 def,switch in your CBander and Pursuit them as they switch.

Bear in mind, a -6 def Pursuit basically ohko's Skarmory =X, scary huh ?



Please dont use this blue blob against me.......EVER >=[. Seriously, dont.

Zowayix June 17th, 2008 3:03 PM

Can someone please give me a good moveset for Bidoof? (see my posts 1 page back)

Sexycheese June 17th, 2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 3681337)
Can someone please give me a good moveset for Bidoof? (see my posts 1 page back)

Bidoof? I dont know much about that but lets have a go....I presume it has a similar moveset to bibareal? so I will recomend a moveset aimed at him

Ok here goes.....

Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant/Lonely Nature
Ability: Unaware
-Return
-Waterfall
-Superpower
-Rollout

Hate to say it but after looking at bidoof my opinion is negative, it sucks

El Gofre June 18th, 2008 8:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowayix (Post 3681337)
Can someone please give me a good moveset for Bidoof? (see my posts 1 page back)

In answer to your earlier question NFE= Not fully Evolved.

Secondly, NU isnt really a tier. A set of crap pokemon essentially tackling each other doesnt make for an exciting game. Even in NU bidoof sucks, there are plenty of evolved NUs that will kill it off.

sims796 June 18th, 2008 9:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3682364)
Bidoof? I dont know much about that but lets have a go....I presume it has a similar moveset to bibareal? so I will recomend a moveset aimed at him

Ok here goes.....

Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant/Lonely Nature
Ability: Unaware
-Return
-Waterfall
-Superpower
-Rollout

Hate to say it but after looking at bidoof my opinion is negative, it sucks

You underestimate it. Not that your set is phail, it ain't, butyou left out some very good options


A few options are

Super Fang

It instantly removes HALF of the opponents HP. ER'Y TIME. If they have 400 HP, they instantly fall to 200. Use it again, back to 100. Once more, 50. And so on.

Unaware

Makes his job so much easier when your enemy, (for example, Cradily), boost their stats enough (like using Barrier), only for those charges to be IGNORED.

Simple

Sweepers would kill for this ability. Using Charge Beam, & getting the Boost, would get your Sp.Atk by TWO levels, not just one. It doubles the stat increases.


Those cannot be ignored.



EDIT:Oh, BIDOOF! I thought Bibarel. Still, mah point stands.

Zowayix June 18th, 2008 9:53 AM

ok ignore my bidoof request, I have a better pkmn for my NU team now.

Outlawed June 19th, 2008 5:56 AM

I want to make a team with these pokes
T-Tar, Garchomp, Gliscor, Empoleon, Starmie, Blissey.
Any thoughts?

Sexycheese June 19th, 2008 6:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlawed (Post 3685574)
I want to make a team with these pokes
T-Tar, Garchomp, Gliscor, Empoleon, Starmie, Blissey.
Any thoughts?

Ok how about these? :)

Tyranitar @Choice Band
60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spd
Adamant Nature
ability: Sandstream
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Pursuit/Focus Punch

Garchomp @Life Orb
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Fire Fang

Gliscor @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
Ability: Sand Veil
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Roost
-Knock Off/Stealth Rock

Empoleon @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Grass Knot
-Rest
-Sleep Talk


Starmie @Leftovers
EVs: 236 HP / 56 SAtk / 216 Spd
Timid Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Surf
-Thunderbolt/Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Blissey @Leftovers
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 108 SAtk
Bold Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave/Sing

Lalapizzame June 19th, 2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyulf (Post 3685594)
Ok how about these? :)

Tyranitar @Choice Band
176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spd
Adamant Nature
ability: Sandstream
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake/Focus Punch
-Crunch
-Pursuit

Garchomp @Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Fire Fang

Gliscor @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
Ability: Sand Veil
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Roost
-Knock Off/Stealth Rock/Taunt

Empoleon @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Grass Knot
-Rest
-Sleep Talk


Starmie @Leftovers
EVs: 160 HP / 132 SAtk / 216 Spd
Timid Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Surf
-Thunderbolt/Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Blissey @Leftovers
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Def /
216 SpD
Bold Nature/Calm Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Ice Beam
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave/Toxic

Starmie wants 132 SAtk to OHKO 4 HP/0 SpD Garchomp. Blissey also wants more Special Defense this gen because Special hits are getting harder, with Fighting type special attacks, Choice Specs, Life Orb, and Nasty Plot. Garchomp doesn't need those HP EVs and Tyranitar only needs 80 Speed EVs to outrun 4 Speed neutral nature Skarmory and Metagross. You must outspeed Skarmory to 2HKO it with Stone Edge before it Roosts. Pursuit catches fleeing Psychics and makes them faint before they switch to a counter.

Outlawed June 19th, 2008 12:47 PM

Allright thanks, looks similar to the one I had planned, but the Blissey is different. I used a Clam Mind Blissey with more defence.

supersmashbro93 June 19th, 2008 3:53 PM

does anyone have any ideas of a good moveset for a physical sweeping feraligator(bad spelling) i'm kind of stuck

devilicious June 19th, 2008 4:10 PM

You can opt for either a Dragon Dance or a Swords Dance set.
Keep in mind Gyarados does DD much better.

Feraligatr @ Life Orb / Leftovers
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 228 Spe
Adamant ~ Torrent
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

as for a Swords Dance set, I'd go with;

Feraligatr @ Salac Berry
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly ~ Torrent
- Swords Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Feraligatr is quite bulky, so you can hope to get one or two SDs and have the opponent lower your health just enough for Salac to activate, which will activate Torrent too, making Waterfall beastly.

supersmashbro93 June 19th, 2008 4:34 PM

i know what you mean about gyrados but everyone uses it so i don't like it anymore... oh and thanks


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