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XD001fan45 December 30th, 2007 10:38 PM

Rate/Help with my team
 
ok I need some help with my team.

Lucario
Force palm
Aura sphere
Dragon pulse
Close combat

Porygon Z
Tri attack
Aerial ace
Shadow ball
Recover

Magmortar
Earthquake
Fire punch
Lava plume
Fire blast

Rhyperior
Megahorn
Hammer arm
ice beam
earthquake

Camerupt
Fissure
Earth power
Earthquake
Eruption

Sceptile
Solarbeam
Leaf blade
detect
dragon claw

Anything I need changed?

sims796 December 30th, 2007 10:48 PM

The moment I battled your Porygon-Z, I knew there was a mighty problem. You have too many pokes with the same type move. What will Fire Blast knock out that Lava Plume won'? You need to pick one & call it a day. You also need to check to see what is the best kind of move for each poke is. For instance, Rhyperior's SP.ATK sucks. SUCKS, I SAY. So what in Blue Hell are you giving it Ice Beam For? Just slapping on any move & calling it a day isn't enough. You must actually think through your moves first & foremost. You know Rypherior's SP.ATK is inferior to it's ATK. so an all physical moveset is vastly superior.

Have a look at Azonic's "Building A Team" thread. I'll help with your individual pokes in a sec.

El Gofre December 31st, 2007 4:14 AM

You need a lotta help.
*What are the EVs? If you dont EV train you've already lost.
*We also need natures.
*Why have camerupt and magmortar got 3 of the same-type move? like sims said this is a huge waste! Pluse fissure is a hax move.
*You have no dedicated physical or special attackers, and no walls.

Azonic December 31st, 2007 7:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3210203)
Have a look at Azonic's "Building A Team" thread. I'll help with your individual pokes in a sec.

That would be me =DDD

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3210182)
ok I need some help with my team.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Trait: Steadfast
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Speed / 128 SAttack / 128 Attack
Dark Pulse
Crunch / Blaze Kick
Hidden Power [ICE]
Close combat

Three Fighting moves on the same moveset is a big no. The maximum quantity of a move type on a moveset is one.

Porygon Z @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Adaptability
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Tri attack
Hidden Power [ICE]
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse

Magmortar @ Expert Belt
Trait: Flame Body
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Speed / 200 SAttack / 52 Attack
Earthquake
Hidden Power [ICE]
Thunderbolt
Fire blast / Flamethrower

Rhyperior@Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 Attack
Nature: Adamant
Megahorn
Solid Rock
Avalanche / Rock Polish / Substitute
earthquake

Camerupt
Fissure ????????
Earth power
Earthquake
Eruption

So many pokemon outclass him

Anything I need changed? Uh-huh.

Fixes are in bold. this team ain't so pretty. you need walls, this team is too sweeper oriented.

XD001fan45 December 31st, 2007 3:08 PM

ok i made some adjustments to my team. Not the ones shone above though, but I changed out some moves.

Shiraishi December 31st, 2007 3:27 PM

You'd better change to the ones above or you shall be destroyed/trampled/anhiliated/decimated/pummeled in all wi-fi battles. I suggest actually putting some walls in there -_-;

Anti December 31st, 2007 3:35 PM

Penguin, what's with HP Ice on Pory Z when it gets ice beam? >.< and did you mean "Stone Edge" on Rhyinferior? lol

But besides that, Penguin's rate was on the money. You might want to consider making serious changes, as this team sucks.

You're going to want some walls. you know...

-Donphan
-Hippowdon
-Skarmory
-Blissey
-Regirock
-Regice
-Snorlax
-Articuno
-Gliscor
-Tangrowth
-Weezing
-Cresselia
-Dusknoir
-Claydol
-Spiritomb
-Suicune
-Uxie
-Registeel

Please add some walls :/

Shiraishi December 31st, 2007 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3212499)
Penguin, what's with HP Ice on Pory Z when it gets ice beam? >.< and did you mean "Stone Edge" on Rhyinferior? lol

But besides that, Penguin's rate was on the money. You might want to consider making serious changes, as this team sucks.

You're going to want some walls. you know...

-Donphan
-Hippowdon
-Skarmory
-Blissey
-Regirock
-Regice
-Snorlax
-Articuno
-Gliscor
-Tangrowth
-Weezing
-Cresselia
-Dusknoir
-Claydol
-Spiritomb
-Suicune
-Uxie
-Registeel
-Forretress
-Steelix
-Cradily
-Milotic


Added some. I'm a fan of Scarf-Mortar, it's basically a Heatran with Thunderbolt.

Goldenhammerhead December 31st, 2007 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3212499)
Penguin, what's with HP Ice on Pory Z when it gets ice beam? >.< and did you mean "Stone Edge" on Rhyinferior? lol

But besides that, Penguin's rate was on the money. You might want to consider making serious changes, as this team sucks.

You're going to want some walls. you know...

-Donphan
-Hippowdon
-Skarmory
-Blissey
-Regirock
-Regice
-Snorlax
-Articuno
-Gliscor
-Tangrowth
-Weezing
-Cresselia
-Dusknoir
-Claydol
-Spiritomb
-Suicune
-Uxie
-Registeel

Please add some walls :/

with anti there.....hidden power ice wont do as much as an ice beam even if it gets a critical hit!

Anti December 31st, 2007 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3212511)
with anti there.....hidden power ice wont do as much as an ice beam even if it gets a critical hit!

70 base power vs. 95 base power...common sense tells me that's incorrect :/ Besides, it was just a minor mistake, Penguin probably just forgot. Happens to the best of us.

Also, Raikou can be a special wall if you know how to use it. Metagross, Steelix, and Forry I also forgot to add, but yeah.

Goldenhammerhead December 31st, 2007 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3212519)
70 base power vs. 95 base power...common sense tells me that's incorrect :/ Besides, it was just a minor mistake, Penguin probably just forgot. Happens to the best of us.

Also, Raikou can be a special wall if you know how to use it. Metagross, Steelix, and Forry I also forgot to add, but yeah.

what...i thought hidden power had a base of 30???or is that secret power...XD!

Shiraishi December 31st, 2007 6:02 PM

Hidden power can be between 30-70 base power :x

Goldenhammerhead December 31st, 2007 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3212929)
Hidden power can be between 30-70 base power :x

ahhhhh..kk that explains it....dang that was stupid of me.

ktn December 31st, 2007 6:19 PM

i think u should teach your lurico a steel tupe move because after all he is a steel type

XD001fan45 December 31st, 2007 6:23 PM

ok would Bastiodon be a good wall? If so what's a good moveset?

Azonic December 31st, 2007 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3212969)
ok would Bastiodon be a good wall? If so what's a good moveset?

No, since Bastiodon is weak to Ground and Fighting by a x4 weak - two very common types in the competetive play

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3212407)
ok i made some adjustments to my team. Not the ones shone above though, but I changed out some moves.

You should use the ones I gave you. The movesets are terribly off.

Azonic December 31st, 2007 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3212969)
ok would Bastiodon be a good wall? If so what's a good moveset?

No, since Bastiodon is weak to Ground and Fighting by a x4 weak - two very common types in the competetive play

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3212407)
ok i made some adjustments to my team. Not the ones shone above though, but I changed out some moves.

You should use the ones I gave you. Your movesets are terribly off.

XD001fan45 December 31st, 2007 6:52 PM

uhh, you double posted the same thing.

anyway, where do I view my EV/IV's on a certain pokemon?

sims796 December 31st, 2007 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3213040)
uhh, you double posted the same thing.

anyway, where do I view my EV/IV's on a certain pokemon?

Duh. It was a mistake.

Anyway, it seems it is too late to view the IV's of your pokes. Look at azonic's guide that I referenced for more info on EV/IV's.

To find out IV's, you should get into a lvl 100 match, record their stats, then use a damage calculator. I use this one :http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml. The rest is self explanitory.

As for EV's, well, look up azonic's guide.

You need to basically scarp that entire team, & rebuild it. Ya need to learn about breeding.

Eos Aduro December 31st, 2007 8:05 PM

MY EYES! Ok, for one do you understand EVs? Actually do you understand stats and natures and what moves belong, to what stats. And no 2 moves of the same type if they are for attacking on a Pokemon. Truth is, your team will fail, and does fail. You have WAY to many sweepers. Do you understand sweepers and walls?

XD001fan45 December 31st, 2007 9:15 PM

not really. I under stand that EVs are gained in battles. And every 4 Evs gives 1 point to that stat.

sims796 December 31st, 2007 9:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD001fan45 (Post 3213239)
not really. I under stand that EVs are gained in battles. And every 4 Evs gives 1 point to that stat.

Good. so implemente them. Its good that you know, but now you must put it in action.

XD001fan45 December 31st, 2007 10:10 PM

right!........... How would I do that...?

Eos Aduro January 1st, 2008 11:32 AM

Ok, well up Azonic has fixed your team. I'll use Porygon-Z as a good example. Porygon-Z needs 252 Speed EVs. Now each Zubat has 1 Speed EV, so if you have a level 1 Porygon-Z, which is possible, and it KO'd 252 Zubats without KOing anything else, it would have full speed EVs. But, evidently, thats way to time consuming. So what you can do is either give Porygon-Z a Macho Brace that doubles the amopunt of EVs you receive, or catch Pokerus, which also doubles the EVs you receive. So if Porygon-Z had a Macho Barce AND Pokerus,instead of getting 1 speed EV, it would get 4. Here are some good places to get certain EVs in Diamond/Pearl

HP-The grassy area outside the place hwere you can transfer Pokemon from Ruby, Sapphire etc, there are Shellos, Gastrodon, Stunky, and Skuntank, check serebii for how many EVS they give.
Attack-To the swampy area outside of the marsh city, there are Bibarel and Kriketune, both give out 2 attack EVs
Defense-Iron Mountain, everything except Golbat gives you defense.
Special Attack-Old Chateau, the ghosts give you spoecial attack
Special Defense-The water route going to the Elite Four, lots of Tentacruel
Speed-Surfing in Victory Road for Golbat.

Goldenhammerhead January 1st, 2008 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3214719)
Ok, well up Azonic has fixed your team. I'll use Porygon-Z as a good example. Porygon-Z needs 252 Speed EVs. Now each Zubat has 1 Speed EV, so if you have a level 1 Porygon-Z, which is possible, and it KO'd 252 Zubats without KOing anything else, it would have full speed EVs. But, evidently, thats way to time consuming. So what you can do is either give Porygon-Z a Macho Brace that doubles the amopunt of EVs you receive, or catch Pokerus, which also doubles the EVs you receive. So if Porygon-Z had a Macho Barce AND Pokerus,instead of getting 1 speed EV, it would get 4. Here are some good places to get certain EVs in Diamond/Pearl

HP-The grassy area outside the place hwere you can transfer Pokemon from Ruby, Sapphire etc, there are Shellos, Gastrodon, Stunky, and Skuntank, check serebii for how many EVS they give.
Attack-To outside the second town you go to on the island with battle tower. There is a fishing place near the two trainers where if you fish with super rod ONLY garardoses appear(2 base speed EVs)
Defense-Iron Mountain, everything except Golbat gives you defense.
Special Attack-Old Chateau, the ghosts give you spoecial attack
Special Defense-The water route going to the Elite Four, lots of Tentacruel
Speed-Surfing in Victory Road for Golbat.

Update in bold.Cant use macho brace unless they are high leveled but with pokerus you get 4 still anyway.


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