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Olz. December 31st, 2007 12:18 AM

Jolteon Or Luxray?
 
I can't decide..

What do u think?

And what nature should a Jolteon be xPP

Oh! And a moveset Please!!!

Ayano Katagiri December 31st, 2007 1:50 AM

This is in the wrong place...

Well, the two of them do different jobs.

Both are alright, Jolteon > Luxray though IIRC.

Luxray @ Life Orb
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Spark
- Fire Fang / Crunch
- Ice Fang
- Thunder Wave

Jolteon @ Salac Berry
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Thunderbolt
- HP (Ice)
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Those probably aren't exactly the best movesets, but they're close enough I think... those are what I run on the two.

Shiny Umbreon December 31st, 2007 8:51 AM

Questions like this go in Strategies & Movesets.

-MOVED-

evilcheese December 31st, 2007 9:52 AM

id go jolteon as a bper or special sweeper. luxray has a horrible moveset pool anyway

sims796 December 31st, 2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3211285)
id go jolteon as a bper or special sweeper. luxray has a horrible moveset pool anyway

That's only half ture. Luxray makes an excellent Choice Scarfer. Or, just a srtaight up attacker. I'm lousy at EV's, but...


[email protected]???
Nature:Lonely
Thunderbolt
Crunch
Ice Fang
Thunder Wave/Roar/Quick Attack


Sorry, I'm tired, can't really think of a good Item.

Jimmyray December 31st, 2007 10:35 AM

Both have reasonably limited movesets, but Jolteon does it's job better I think.

[email protected] BERRY
TIMID NATURE
252 SP.ATTACK 252 SPEED 4 HP
SUBSITUTE
THUNDERBOLT
HP [GRASS]
SHADOW BALL

I only say grass because it counters ground AND the likes of Swampert, Whiscash and Quagsire ;)

Azonic December 31st, 2007 10:42 AM

Jolteon@Leftovers
Trait: Vold Absorb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [ICE] / Agility
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Romo_Owens December 31st, 2007 10:51 AM

Wow a lot of Jolteon lovers. It all depends. Jolteon is an incredibly fast pokemon with a decent Special attack. Luxray is a physical sweeper.

Luxray @ Choice Scarf
Adamant nature/Jolly nature

Thunder Fang
Ice Fang
Crunch
Thunder Wave

Jolteon @ Leftovers/Life orb
Modest nature/Timid nature

Thunderbolt
Hidden Power [ice]
Thunder Wave
Roar

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3211285)
id go jolteon as a bper or special sweeper. luxray has a horrible moveset pool anyway

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're talking about Jolteon and saying Luxray has a horrible move set. Jolteons moveset is terrible, thunderbolt is a necessity for an electric pokemon and every pokemon has Hidden Power. Other than that, it has... Substitute? Baton Pass? Wish? Shadow Ball? Iron Tail? Dig? none of those are viable for it's style of play. Luxray has a pretty good moveset with Ice Fang, Thunder Fang, Tunder wave and Crunch. It has almost the exact same move pool as Jolteon, it just uses it better because it has more moves and is a physical sweeper.

Azonic December 31st, 2007 11:34 AM

Having both Choice Scarf and Thunder Wave is simply idiotic. Thunder Wave halves the opponents speed, which means that with a Thunder Wave from Luxray can already let it outrun Ninjask without speed boosts. Give it a Life Orb, or Focus Sash if you're not good at predicting

ABYAY December 31st, 2007 11:54 AM

Here's my Luxray set.

[email protected] Scarf
Adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6HP

Spark (for accuracy + 30% para chance)/Thunderbolt (go lonely if this is the case of fearing Skarm)
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Crunch

This set is so versatile, and with Scarf, it has JUST enough to outspeed Garchomp and one-shot Ice Fang it.. If you have max speed IVs, then I think it can be quicker than Gengar; unsure though. This set has surprised many and has worked wonders.

Samson December 31st, 2007 12:00 PM

eh. ._.

jolteon is all about speed. luxray, unfortunately, is not.

Luxray @ Shuca Berry
Rash/Quiet Nature
248 HP/216 SP ATK/44 ATK
Ability: Intimidate
-Thunderbolt
-HP Grass/HP Ice
-Ice Fang/Thunderfang
-Thunderwave

a very good starter. no weaknesses with the berry and 2HKO-OHKOs threats, while twaving faster punks like weavile.

Anti December 31st, 2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azonic (Post 3211564)
Having both Choice Scarf and Thunder Wave is simply idiotic. Thunder Wave halves the opponents speed, which means that with a Thunder Wave from Luxray can already let it outrun Ninjask without speed boosts. Give it a Life Orb, or Focus Sash if you're not good at predicting

People underestimate quick status :( One time Articuno was killed and my entire team ended up paralyzed because of a scarfed thunder wave abuser. It was actually a Zapdos. It's not a bad strategy in the right hands. Idiotic it is not.

Evilcheese, you realize Jolteon's movepool is probably WORSE than Luxray's? O_o

Jolteon is obviously better. I actually like a special sweeper with some CM passing to it (or nasty plot) which gives it incredible speed and power. Can sweep through lots of stuff, it's really a good time to play around with, lol

I think it is an overrated BPer though, but it works regardless.

I don't know enough on Luxray to really comment on it.

Shiraishi December 31st, 2007 12:05 PM

Those two don't even deserve to be compared.(I love Jolteon 8D) Jolteon is a awesome BPer, just force a switch, Sub/Agility and then BP. Easy :x

Samson December 31st, 2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiraishi (Post 3211703)
Those two don't even deserve to be compared.(I love Jolteon 8D) Jolteon is a awesome BPer, just force a switch, Sub/Agility and then BP. Easy :x

that glaceon in your sig is rly cute.

Eos Aduro December 31st, 2007 2:43 PM

Hooray SPAM. Please dont spam. Its annoying.

And I would saygo Jolteon, either as a BPer, or even special attacker.

luke December 31st, 2007 2:50 PM

Yeah Samson and Ash, no spam please. Luxray is an underrated Mixed/Physical Sweeper in UU.


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