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ultranerd57 December 31st, 2007 11:34 AM

Novelty > Standard Lol
 
I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
Azelf @ Wise glasses
EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Hasty/ Modest
-Taunt
-Nasty plot
-Psychic
-Hidden Power Fighting
Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.


Special sweeper
[email protected] Life orb/ Expert belt
EVs:252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Hidden power Ice/ Grass
-Focus blast
Special sweeping Vire FTW


Mixed wall
[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
Relaxed
-Spikes
-Attract
-Rest
-Ice beam
Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.


Physical wall
[email protected] leftovers/ Damp stone
EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
Trait: Swift swim
Impish
-Rapid spin
-Knock off
-Rain dance
-Stone edge
Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.


Physical sweeper
Huntail @ Choice scarf
EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
Trait: Swift swim
Naive
-Ice fang
-Waterfall
-Crunch
-Rain dance/ Snatch
Open for suggestions on last move.



Physical wall/ Support

[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
Relaxed
-Wish
-Hyper Voice
-Thunder wave
-Charge beam


Yup.

Anti December 31st, 2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3211566)
I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

Okay, this better be worth our time.

Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
Azelf @ Wise glasses
EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Hasty/ Modest
-Taunt
-Nasty plot
-Psychic
-Hidden Power Fighting
Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.

I guess.

Special sweeper
[email protected] Choice Specs
EVs:252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Hidden power Ice/ Grass
-Focus blast
Special sweeping Vire FTW

You need ALL the power you can get.

Mixed wall
[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
Relaxed
-Spikes
-Shadow Ball
-Rest
-Ice beam
Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.

Glalie? A mixed Wall? lol. It won't be walling a Skarmory dude :( If anything, it's just a spiker that scares dragons away. I'd really check smogon or somewhere for a set, that doesn't really look that great to be honest. Attract is just no.

Physical wall
[email protected] leftovers/ Damp stone
EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
Trait: Swift swim
Impish
-Rapid spin
-Knock off
-Waterfall
-Stone edge
Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.

Also a pity this is OHKOed by a lot of EQs, so much for physical wall, eh? And what in the world is rain dance doing there? O_o

Physical sweeper
Huntail @ Choice scarf
EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
Trait: Swift swim
Naive
-Ice fang
-Waterfall
-Crunch
-Rain dance/ Snatch
Open for suggestions on last move.

Scarf Rain dance FTW! Um, no. Just use Return or Double-Edge as a filler. Good luck sweeping with 50 base speed.

Physical wall/ Support
[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
Relaxed
-Wish
-Hyper Voice
-Thunder wave
-Charge beam

I can think of so many physical attackers that threaten a OHKO on this thing it isn't even funny...the support this set offers is nice, but wall in OU play it cannot.

Yup.

At first it was fine, but it went downhill. Heracross can OHKO every single pokemon on this team that dares switch into it. Scarf variants will make Azelf a lost thought and ouch...

Machamp isn't much nicer to this team, as all of those "walls" of yours are OHKOed by a cross chop from the demon. And if it happens to switch into thunder wave support, you might as well leave the battle.

Specsmence also torches this team, and the CB variant is even meaner. Any life orb sweeper with a fighting move and ground move can take all but Azelf, which can be promptly taken care of.

Aero and fast banders will be able to outspeed and kill azelf along with the rest of your team.

On the special end of the spectrum, Alakazam just MURDERS this team. Gengar isn't much better, especially focus sash or scarf variants that beat up on Azelf. Poygon Z can OHKO anything you have and really not be stopped. Any psychic pokemon with decent sweeping baility will destroy this team as well, as Azelf can't hit them hard at all.

Watch as Cresselia and Mesprit just gobble up your attempts to sweep as they power up and then destroy your team.

And choice scarfer that can do any kind of damage will not be stopped and it will go on a rampage destroying your entire team.

So in short, nothing you have really walls anything, and your sweepers lack power. Even for a novelty team it is just poor really.

If you want to fix all of these weaks, you're going to have to replace all of those "walls" with things that can actually take hits. I don't care if you give them novelty movesets or not, you still need pokemon that can take hits.

Samson December 31st, 2007 11:53 AM

uh i'm really not feeling the electivire. it's not going to be doing much damage. at least give him focus punch/cross chop/earthquake for the last moveslot. a special fighting move is not going to be in your benefit when you already have flamethrower.

i do use glalie as a special tank as it only fears togekiss, lucario and fire attacks, but physical is pushing it. it's not going to be able to take any physical rock type or fighting type move well at all. also, it works a lot better with ice body + hail + protect. it's outstalled a few pokes and is quite annoying. it can take nuetral physical hits well, but those are rare occurrences when you're running a glalie.

eh... that kabutops is pathetic. it's NOT A WALL. it's barely a tank. seriously, just let the guy be a sweeper.

choice scarf? ._. it won't outrun anything worth the while.

i'm not even going to comment on the wigglytuff.

novelty is not a bad thing, but when you're looking for something new, at least try something good ._.

ultranerd57 December 31st, 2007 11:54 AM

Hm well it was worth a shot I'll do reasearch on my team and change it.

Anti December 31st, 2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3211650)
Hm well it was worth a shot I'll do reasearch on my team and change it.

I don't think you understand. This isn't like a minor thing, you need to blow this thing up and start over. I LOVE novelty sets, but all novelty teams really aren't a good idea. One novelty on a team is fine and dandy, but 6 (especially when most are terrible sets) is overkill and unnecessary.

Replace Kabutops, Huntail, Wigglytuff, and Glalie, they all do nothing for this team except maybe die :/

ultranerd57 December 31st, 2007 12:38 PM

You guys are right maybe I'll make a normal team with Azelf as the only novelty set there. Going to make a team now be back in awhile.

Iceman3k December 31st, 2007 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3211566)
I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
Azelf @ Life Orb / Focus Sash
EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Timid
-Taunt
-Nasty plot
-Psychic
-Hidden Power Fighting
Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.
I wouldn't call this Novelty anything. lol.


Special sweeper
[email protected] Life orb/ Expert belt
EVs:252spd/ 216spatk/ 40 Atk
Mild
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Hidden power Ice/ Grass
-Cross Chop
Special sweeping Vire FTW
Cool people at least run Cross Chop.

Mixed wall
[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
Relaxed
-Spikes
-Attract
-Rest
-Ice beam
Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.
Knowing that Attract is the least useful move on there, I'd call it novelty :x

Physical wall
[email protected] leftovers/ Damp stone
EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
Trait: Swift swim
Impish
-Rapid spin
-Knock off
-Rain dance
-Stone edge
Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.
Pity it's weak against Fighting and Ground, the most common Physical Attacks in the game.

Physical sweeper
Huntail @ Life Orb / Damp Rock
EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
Trait: Swift swim
Adamant
-Ice fang
-Waterfall
-Crunch
-Rain dance
Open for suggestions on last move.
Uh, Rain Dance anyone?


Physical wall/ Support

[email protected] leftovers
EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
Relaxed
-Wish
-Hyper Voice
-Thunder wave
-Charge Beam
Needs Protect somewhere.

Yup.

Any random Fighting type will cripple this team to death.


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