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CoolTrainerXtasy January 2nd, 2008 6:56 AM

Shuckle a Serious Pokemon or Joke?
 
Shuckle @ Leftovers
Nature: dunno...

Rest
Toxic
attract
substitue?

I need a special wall, and also I dont have emerald, is it possible to get this pokemone in fire red, i dont seem to remember the 'alternating cave'

Faceless* January 2nd, 2008 6:57 AM

Use Blissey

Try Sandstorm/Wrap/Toxic/Encore for your Special Wall

CoolTrainerXtasy January 2nd, 2008 7:01 AM

Blissey is so overused but lol, hats my problem with it :( and shuckle could be seriously annoying and somewhat unique

Dark Azelf January 2nd, 2008 7:05 AM

Horrid pokemon


Support


Stealth Rock /Toxic / Knock off / Rest

CoolTrainerXtasy January 2nd, 2008 7:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3217209)
Horrid pokemon


Support


Stealth Rock /Toxic / Knock off / Rest



um can i ask why?


is that your suggusted movesets for it?

Dark Azelf January 2nd, 2008 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolTrainerXtasy (Post 3217224)
um can i ask why?


is that your suggusted movesets for it?

It has base 20 hp and cant attack due to its base 10 attack =/

Yes thats my suggested moveset.

Pretty much the only thing it can do, Set up stealth Rock, Knock off items and poison stuff

CoolTrainerXtasy January 2nd, 2008 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3217276)
It has base 20 hp and cant attack due to its base 10 attack =/

Yes thats my suggested moveset.

Pretty much the only thing it can do, Set up stealth Rock, Knock off items and poison stuff

arnt its huge defense enough to keep it out there but, double team protect too...

Persona January 2nd, 2008 8:00 AM

Shuckle @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 Sp.Def
- Rest
- Encore
- Knock Off / Body Slam
- Stealth Rock / Toxic

Body Slam / Knock Off ensures that pokémon with Taunt do not get off free from Shuckle. Body Slam is a worthy choice if you like paralysis support, however Knock Off can get rid of dangerous Choice items and can at least attack Gengar. It's your choice between Toxic or Stealth Rock to lower the health of your opponent. I'd suggest Body Slam and Knock Off over Stealth Rock / Toxic, but it's illegal considering Body Slam is a FR/LG move, while Knock Off is a D/P move.

Shuckle may have a nonexistent attack base, but that doesn't mean you should assume other pokémon are capable of setting up on it. Shuckle can use Encore against those stat-raising moves and most likely forcing the opponent to send out another one to attack. Even if Shuckle uses Encore on an attack move instead, it has still has that godly defence to endure damage. Rely on Shuckle for its resistances and use it as an asset to your team, don't think of it as just something to wall.

Syaoran January 2nd, 2008 8:13 AM

Sandstorm Shuckle with huge special defence. You might as well max his defence and HP.

Shirosaki got it right. Use Encore + Stealth Rock to cause switches. Just be careful not to Encore pokemon with the Pressure ability, because 8 PP is very poor.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 9:06 AM

I was thinking of running something like this in my team

Shuckle @ leftovers
Nature: ???
EVs: 252 Defence 252 SpecialD 4 HP
- Rest
- Encore
- Toxic
- Knock off

this thing is nuts and is very very difficult to take out . it covers both wall and special wall, meaning no more SkarmBliss. The only thing that can stop this from doing damage is a Poison/Steel type pokemon. and then you can easily switch something in.

El Gofre January 2nd, 2008 11:22 AM

Shuckle doesn't have the HP to wall, and doesn't have any power whatsoever.

If you need a special wall, go blissey. As overused as it is, it's still the best one going.

chobo357 January 2nd, 2008 4:49 PM

Shuckle's HP is just way too low for it to take hard hits, even if it does have giant defenses. If you want Shuckle-ish Pokemon, and want to avoid Blissey, Registeel and Dusknoir both work.

Ársa January 2nd, 2008 5:03 PM

It is a Horrible Pokemon, with it's 20 Base HP stat, and that moveset that people think is so hot is crap. A good steel or poison type and it goes out the window. (Toxic wise)

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Gluttony
252 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Atk
Adamant

Power Trick
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Gyro Ball

You're gonna want to set this up from a BP with at least 2 Agility. Throw in a Power Trick Early, take the damage from an opponent, let Salac kick in to give you another speed boost, and then proceed to....dare I say it.....sweep with a Shuckle.....lol

In no way am I saying this is a good set, but it is certainly better than that crapola "annoyer" set.

~M51

Shiraishi January 2nd, 2008 5:04 PM

Double team is no. It's banned in all tourneys for a reason :/ Use Shuckle in UU, it does good there.

Ársa January 2nd, 2008 5:13 PM

who said Double Team??? o.0!

~M51

Lunar Fang January 2nd, 2008 5:14 PM

Not a great wall, but it does work well on trick room team.

Ársa January 2nd, 2008 5:21 PM

I must be half asleep still, why didn't I think of Trick Room team? lol

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Gluttony
252 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Atk
Adamant

Power Trick
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Gyro Ball

That would be better, of course, for after the switch from Trick Room that is...lol
Unsure on the item, depends on your situation. Life Orb will not make you care with its crapola HP stat.

~M51

Dark Kafra January 2nd, 2008 5:30 PM

I would perfer to use Cradily can get recover instead of rest and has pretty decent def and hp and much higher attack than shuckle.

sims796 January 2nd, 2008 5:30 PM

If ALL Shuckle can do is annoy, there's a problem. Gyarados has a field day. Yes, it WILL set up on it. One Taunt is all it takes.

What, you're gonna Stone Edge me to death? Wait, let me get my glasses to see that tiny bar move down.

As for Trick Room, not so much. ANY defensive wall WILL eliminate it, since they will take it out in one hit. Forry comes to mind.

Faceless* January 3rd, 2008 8:02 AM

Seismic Toss from Blissey =P

Syaoran January 3rd, 2008 4:06 PM

Seismic Toss from Blissey and boosted Stone Edge / Waterfall is Shuckle's greatest fear. Only use him in a Sandstorm team where his special defence sky rockets and it can pretty much take any hit and knock off the foe's item. Encore that annoying Garchomp using Swords Dance. Shuckle is mainly for scouting and causing switches. It doesn't need to do more, and please, forget about Power Trick / Trick Room, it doesn't have the time to use this effectively.


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