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Anton January 2nd, 2008 9:49 AM

EHHHH????
 
Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Defence / 12 Speed/ 160 SpecialD
- Seismic Toss
- Sing
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy

My SWall. Nuff said.

Infernape @ Life Orb Naive
Trait: Blaze
NAture: Naive
EVs: 24 Attack / 252 SpecaialA / 232 Speed
- Nasty Plot
- Flamethrower
-Close Combat
- Grass Knot

Wall Beatstick Uses Nasty Plot and then hammers them Also special sweeper.

Dusknoir @ leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Pressure
EVs:252 HP/132 defence/80 Attack/ 40 SpecialD
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak
-ThunderPunch

Defence wall and WoWer

Electrive @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
EV's:6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake

Physical Sweeper

Togekiss @ leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
Evs:252 HP/ 184 Def/ 74 specialD
-Aura Shere
-Air Slash
-Thunder Wave
-Roost

Super Paraflincher. opponent has -20% chance of attacking.

Starmie @ leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Timid
Evs:172 HP / 120 SpA / 216 Spe
-Recover
-Rapid Spin
-T-bolt
-Surf

spinner and mixape counter.

I need something to replace Hippowdon as Sand Stream is annoying. Looking at Skarm but Already have Togekiss, which is to become a paraflincher. BPass is going.Might put Aura Shere on it to instead of Plot. So does anyone have any ideas for the replacement to Hippo? Any other ideas? Point of interest?

El Gofre January 2nd, 2008 11:33 AM

Nice team, but metagros isnt fast enough to sweep without Choice scarf or agility or maxed speed EVs

Anton January 2nd, 2008 11:35 AM

so ill be putting 252 Hp into speed to max sweep with it. Could instead of using chioce scarf/band I could use life orb. not asmuch power but hay atleast I can sweep.So any ideas for Hippo replacement?

El Gofre January 2nd, 2008 11:44 AM

Sorry my ideas on walls is usually frowned upon, just because im original lol.
Steelix makes a good physical wall though, underrated imo.

evilcheese January 2nd, 2008 12:36 PM

ah metagross doesnt have a very high base speed. you can use anti pops revenge killing metagross or just regular agiligross

Anton January 2nd, 2008 1:19 PM

would you mind elaboraing on revengekillagross??

El Gofre January 2nd, 2008 2:44 PM

I think (Dont hold me to this) its a Choicebanded gros with pursuit.

Opponent kills a poke>You bring in revengegross>Opponent tries to switch from its mightyness>Big evil pursuit damage kills them on the swith-out

Like i said, i think thats it :)

Anti January 2nd, 2008 2:47 PM

What is with all the CBgross hate? I may prefer ScarfGross, but CBgross is very formidable, is twice as good as agiligross, and packs a greater punch than any other Gross set.

There's more to revenge killer Metagross than just pursuit guys X_x

But really, CBgeross doesn't even need speed. 130 base Def is pretty darn stable.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 2:56 PM

Ive been thinking since Mixape is more special oriented why not use that as my special sweeper/ blissey killer and bring in an electrive as my physical sweeper with Smgons set:

Electrive @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
EV's:6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
this set is super effective against 13 of the 17 types and neutral against the rest. A great physical sweeper.

this gives me more leverage and also gives me something against Gyara. allowing me to give starmie a break and give it Ice Beam instead of T-bolt so dragons arent a problem.

I still need something of a physical wall that is not Skarmory to replace the damn Hippo.


Im also redoing Togekiss so its now

Togekiss @ leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm
Evs:252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SpD
-Aura Shere
-Air Slash
-Thunder Wave
-Roost

Eos Aduro January 2nd, 2008 4:25 PM

Those are some screwed up EVs on Togekiss. It should be bold, 252 HP, 184 Def, 74 SpDef, and then it will work better.

Shiraishi January 2nd, 2008 4:33 PM

Maxed Sp. def isn't necessary because Togekiss isn't your sp. wall. (He's mine XD)

Anton January 2nd, 2008 4:40 PM

So Togekiss gets 252 HP, 184 Def, 74 SpDef. Understood.

So now we get down to the final question that Ive been asking fopr a while now. What do I use to replace my current physical wall hippo, thats name is not Skarmory??

Waker of Chaos January 2nd, 2008 5:03 PM

First and foremost, you should edit your first post to reflect how the team is now. That way, we won't have to read the entire thread just to find that out. For example, you said you were using Electivire, but what did you remove to make room for him?

You could replace Hippowdon with Dusknoir.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 5:44 PM

alright so ill edit my post. Just becuase I have no clue what would I be running with DuskNoir?

Dusknoir @ leftovers
Nature: ???
Trait: Pressure
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-???
-???

this is what Ive got so far. And it is to be a physical wall.

Will loweres attack and Pain is for healing.

Waker of Chaos January 2nd, 2008 7:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 3218931)
alright so ill edit my post. Just becuase I have no clue what would I be running with DuskNoir?

Dusknoir @ leftovers
Nature: Careful
Ability: Pressure
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Sneak
-ThunderPunch

this is what Ive got so far. And it is to be a physical wall.

Will loweres attack and Pain is for healing.

There you go. EVs should be 252 HP, 76 Defense, and 180 Special Defense.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 7:37 PM

alrighty then. Thanks so much. Now fopr the final and (as far as im concerned) most important question about my team as a whole. What weaknesses does it have and what casn I do to confront them?? Also why am I putting 180 EVS into SpecialD when hes a Physical wall. thats more special oriented. Careful also increases SPecialD. that is not right. must change that. 252 HP/ Defence and an impish nature. thjeir we go.

Anti January 2nd, 2008 7:40 PM

WoW covers physical defense, but if you're REALLY sure you want it to be a hardcore physical wall, pump up Def, though 252 EVs is overkill with WoW. Probably add a few EVs to SDef and Atk, max HP.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 7:43 PM

so take out what 80 or so for ATK and that should just be enough. 252 HP 172 Defence and 80 attack. any other changes?

Anti January 2nd, 2008 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton (Post 3219333)
so take out what 80 or so for ATK and that should just be enough. 252 HP 172 Defence and 80 attack. any other changes?

Probably add some SDef to that spread for a bit more survivability.

Anton January 2nd, 2008 7:45 PM

40 from defence to Special then. for a final 252 HP 132 defence 80 Attack and 40 SpecialD. aPutting that up now.

Eos Aduro January 2nd, 2008 8:55 PM

That works. No really big weaks, everything looks covered.

Anton January 3rd, 2008 7:05 AM

ok so now to start breeding again...


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