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Slinkington January 2nd, 2008 9:52 AM

Forced evolution... or no?
 
Hi,

I'm raising a Staryu and plan on evolving it to a Starmie when it has learnt some of the later moves. I noticed that the stat increase of Starmie is MUCH higher than Staryu when leveling up, so would I be losing out on the extra points if I waited until it's leveled up loads as Staryu? Or would it gradually give me the points when leveling after it has evolved? (Hope that makes sense)

Thanks for any replies. :)

Eon-Rider January 2nd, 2008 9:59 AM

I'm pretty sure that as soon as a Pokemon evolves, it's stats go all the way up to what it would've been if it had evolved earlier. So don't worry about the time it evolves.

Slinkington January 2nd, 2008 10:14 AM

Thanks, just had to make sure. ;)

El Gofre January 2nd, 2008 12:20 PM

Very few moves used by competetive starmies are generically learnt. You may as well evolve him now.

Jack Surge January 2nd, 2008 12:30 PM

It makes no difference what level you evolve a pokemon at. If you evolve him at lv 15 or lv 50, it will be the same. Starmie's stat increase is higher because the base stats are higher. But it won't matter in the end.

And yes, Starmie's don't learn many level up moves that are worth keeping. Surf, Psychic and Thunderbolt are some of its best, and all are learned through TMs or HMs. I'd evolve it sooner.

MatterX January 2nd, 2008 12:41 PM

If I were you I would evolve it sooner. It would become a bit stronger if you did and it could learn more moves.

#Gecko# January 2nd, 2008 5:30 PM

Quote:

If I were you I would evolve it sooner. It would become a bit stronger if you did and it could learn more moves.
It won't become any stronger than normal because the IVs are set in stone on it. If it evolves at level 1 or 99 it will be the same base stats.

scwizard January 2nd, 2008 9:36 PM

There are three factors that go into your stats: IVs, EVs, nature and the base stat

None of these are effected by when you choose to evolve your pokemon.

Slinkington January 3rd, 2008 7:18 AM

Thanks for all the advice :)

But is it really not worth training it up to learn Hydro pump? As far as I knew, that was one of the better water moves? I'm no expert on this though. ;)

st.jimmy January 3rd, 2008 12:02 PM

it is probarbly the water equivelant of flamethrower.
a good pokemon to evolve late is growlith he learns loads of moves before evolving to arcanine!

Eruption January 3rd, 2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by azuman (Post 3220825)
it is probarbly the water equivelant of flamethrower.
a good pokemon to evolve late is growlith he learns loads of moves before evolving to arcanine!

Quite a few stone evolve pokemon dont learn barely anything but pre-evos do.

Raichu springs instanly to mind.

Virgil Hunter January 3rd, 2008 12:12 PM

just do it sooner as it doesn't matter when you do it

evilcheese January 3rd, 2008 2:56 PM

that os probably the result of ev training, because its evolved it takes longer to raise that means the longer it gets ev traoned.

Jim January 4th, 2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Slinkington (Post 3220279)
Thanks for all the advice :)

But is it really not worth training it up to learn Hydro pump? As far as I knew, that was one of the better water moves? I'm no expert on this though. ;)

Hydro Pump isn't really that good. 5PP and low accuracy, go with Surf. Also (I think) if you evolve it now and then raise it too the level that it would learn Hydropump as a Staryu (Level 55) you can learn Hydro Pump from the Move Relearner (In Pastoria City).

(E.G evolve Staryu now, raise too Lv55 then go to the Move Relearner, I'm 75% sure it will work).


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