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PhoenixFlare January 5th, 2008 5:02 AM

I like to battle.
 
Please help my team. Thnx.

[email protected] Salac berry
252spd/ 252spA/ 6hp
Timid
Technician
-Nasty plot
-Baton pass
-Substitute
-Taunt


[email protected] life orb
204spatk/ 252spd/ 6hp
Hasty
-Thunder bolt
-Focus blast
-Hidden power Ice
-Shadow ball


[email protected] leftovers
252hp/ 180spdef/ 76def
Careful
-Shadow sneak
-Fire punch
-Pain split
-Will-o-Wisp

[email protected] leftovers
240hp/ 148spdef/ 120def
Bold
-Heal bell
-Recover
-Leech seed
-Psychic


[email protected] leftovers
252hp/ 136def/ 120spatk
Bold
-Surf
-Ice beam
-Rest
-Sleep talk


[email protected] choice scarf
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest
-Lava Plume
-Earth power
-Hidden Power Ice
-Explosion

Anti January 5th, 2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3226101)
Please help my team. Thnx.

[email protected] Leftovers/Salac Berry
252spd/ 252 HP / 4 SAtk OR SDef
Timid
Technician
-Nasty plot
-Baton pass
-Swift / Substitute
-Taunt

Being am Ambipom user myself, I can tell you that you aren't going to be attacking much. Taunt over shadow ball prevents PHazing and most hazers. You should REALLY consider sub to activate Salac, but more importantly, giving you protection from status and allowing you to take a free hit.

[email protected] life orb
4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252spd
Timid
-Energy ball / Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Shadow ball

Yay baton pass reciever from Ambi raises spA and tricks Bliss into showing up to get punched.

lool, Gengar is my recipiant as well lol. Focus punch is a waste though-focus blast 2HKOs after a nasty plot pass, and OHKOs with 2 nasty plots (which happens more than you'd think). Weavile is NASTY to this thing, and if this is your reciever of Passes, Salac is best to outspeed and OHKO the beast. I learned that the hard way.

HP Ice over explosion for coverage, and Tbolt is better than energy ball on most anything but swampert, which will take a beating from shadow ball anyways. Watch for the recoil of life orb if sandstorm or hail is in effect, as the damage adds up fast.


[email protected] leftovers
252atk/ 252spdef/ 6hp
Careful
-Rest
-Stealth rock
-Earthquake
-Stone edge

Needs max HP or close to it if you're using rest. Also, it'll want some Def EVs too. Really though, Regirock I've really only found useful with Sand Stream support.

[email protected] leftovers
240hp/ 148spdef/ 120def
Bold
-Heal bell
-Recover
-Leech seed
-Psychic

Fine.

[email protected] leftovers
252hp/ 136def/ 120spatk
Bold
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rest
-Sleep talk

HP Ground? Eh, if it's for electrics, you shouldn't be staying in on those and ice beam comes in handy a lot more against the likes of grassers and dragons.

[email protected] choice specs
252spatk/ 252spd/ 6hp
Hasty
-Hidden power Ice
-Grass knot
-Dark pulse
-Explosion

Hehe another Bliss trap.

Tjhis is the only one you'll need then, but to be honest a bit unnecessary for this here team.

Decent team that needs more sturdy walling IMO. Edit in BOLD

PhoenixFlare January 5th, 2008 1:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3227180)
Decent team that needs more sturdy walling IMO. Edit in BOLD

Ok so for Regirock use 252hp/ 120def/ 136spdef?

Hm didin't know Ambipom got Taunt. From a TM I suppose. Thanks for the rate.

Anti January 5th, 2008 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3227290)
Ok so for Regirock use 252hp/ 120def/ 136spdef?

Hm didin't know Ambipom got Taunt. From a TM I suppose. Thanks for the rate.

I wouldn't use it to be honest. Nothing can switch into physical attackers really well and Regirock is just asking Heracross to murder you.

Since Heracross will sweep this entire team if it enters the rind, I'd throw in gliscor over Regirock.

Also, I'd replace Shiftry, doesn't do much for your team to be honest.

PhoenixFlare January 5th, 2008 1:34 PM

Hm ok then so how about Slowbro over Regirock.... wait Hera kills that as well. What about Dusknoir?

[email protected] leftovers
252hp/ 160spdef/ 98def
Impish
-Fire punch
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain split
-Ice punch

Anti January 5th, 2008 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3227316)
Hm ok then so how about Slowbro over Regirock.... wait Hera kills that as well. What about Dusknoir?

[email protected] leftovers
252hp/ 160spdef/ 98def
Impish
-Fire punch
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain split
-Ice punch

I really wish I remembered the standard EV spread for that thing X_x I think it's 252 HP / 180 SDef / 76 Def or something like that.

Also, Careful nature. Shadow Sneak or Thunderpunch should go over Ice Punch really.

Wtach out for night slash and pursuit though, they REALLY hurt, and whatever you do, DON'T WoW that thing.

PhoenixFlare January 5th, 2008 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3227404)
I really wish I remembered the standard EV spread for that thing X_x I think it's 252 HP / 180 SDef / 76 Def or something like that.

Also, Careful nature. Shadow Sneak or Thunderpunch should go over Ice Punch really.

Wtach out for night slash and pursuit though, they REALLY hurt, and whatever you do, DON'T WoW that thing.

Oh yeah I know about Guts that ability is amazinf when you have it but majorly sucks when opponents have it.

While its true I am sort of new to this I did read the stickies and competitve battling sounds like alot of fun so I'm going to make this on Shaddy. I think thats the name.

Would this be better than Shiftry?

[email protected] choice scarf
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest
-Earth power
-Hidden Power Ice
-Dark pulse
-Flamethrower

I found a calculator and used Serebii to help with stats to make this. It counters fast OU pokemon.

Anti January 5th, 2008 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3227468)
Oh yeah I know about Guts that ability is amazinf when you have it but majorly sucks when opponents have it.

While its true I am sort of new to this I did read the stickies and competitve battling sounds like alot of fun so I'm going to make this on Shaddy. I think thats the name.

Would this be better than Shiftry?

[email protected] choice scarf
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest
-Earth power
-Hidden Power Ice
-Dark pulse
-Flamethrower

I found a calculator and used Serebii to help with stats to make this. It counters fast OU pokemon.

Yes, that would be excellent (also resists ice), but replace Dark Pulse with the likes of explosion or lava plume (the move that burns, whatever it is, lol) or even fire blast, as it grants quite some power. Flash Cannon works over it too...I'm not too familiar with its movepool lol (even though I use it O_o)

And yes, shoddy battle is the place.

PhoenixFlare January 5th, 2008 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3227653)
Yes, that would be excellent (also resists ice), but replace Dark Pulse with the likes of explosion or lava plume (the move that burns, whatever it is, lol) or even fire blast, as it grants quite some power. Flash Cannon works over it too...I'm not too familiar with its movepool lol (even though I use it O_o)

And yes, shoddy battle is the place.

Oops I misspelled it ah well it happens.

Ok first post is edited hope its better.

Samson January 6th, 2008 12:24 AM

ARGHH... i posted a huge reply earlier but the page wouldn't load. what a waste =( i'll try to sum it up this time around.

your Ambipom has 252 SP ATK... change it to HP EVs. it doesn't have any damage attacks anyway, so it's quite pointless. it needs to be able to take hits a lot better if it's going to pass nasty plots. although, i would give it Fake Out so your team isn't owned by Focus Sash starters. i suggest Jolly Nature, 252 ATK/228 HP/28 ATK. replace substitute or taunt for Fake Out, preferably substitute because you need taunt for phazers. you should also consider Chople Berry instead of Salac Berry. the chance of it surviving a hit right at 25% and getting in a nasty plot is VERY low. besides, it allows ambipom to get in at least one Nasty Plot and safely pass the NP to gengar.

you have a X3 weakness to dark/ghost moves, which makes it easy for weavile to swords dance and destroy your team. i suggest you get rid of celebi. it's not doing much on this team when you have milotic stalling and taking status. you also need a physical sweeper who can resist dark type moves. i think Toxicroak and Lucario could be good replacements. both can benefit from Ambipom's Nasty Plots with Vacuum Wave. Toxicroak is a plus also because it has that good fighting/dark resistance, fire weakness/water resistance with Dry Skin so you can bring Heatran in for Flash Fire activation, and has Suckerpunch + Swords Dance to take out those who threaten it.

if you want something a little more bulky or that can take status quite well, i suggest CB Hera, Scizor, CB Metagross, Salamence, and Dragonite (and maybe Breloom).


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