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Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 3:50 PM

Help my fighting team
 
Alright i made a fighting team, but it need some work. there needs to be at least 3 fighting types. so here is my team now.

Blaziken
300/271/196/234/172/208
Fire Punch
Blaze Kick
Double Kick
Sky Uppercut

Electivire
292/379/170/203/206/289
EV'D in attack and speed
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake

Toxicroak
294/342/152/168/158/269
EV'D in attack and speed
Poison Jab
Faint Attack
Earthquake
Brick Break

Infernape
293/337/178/220/178/315
EV'D in attack and speed
Blaze Kick
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Close Combat

Lucario
281/230/176/361/176/279
EV'D in special attack and speed
Dark Pulse
Psychic
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse

Gallade
278/383/166/149/266/259
EV'D in attack and speed
Psycho Cut
Close Combat
Leaf Blade
Night Slash

Please help me improve it.

GeneralGuy January 5th, 2008 3:55 PM

Great individually, but a team that consists of all sweepers is failure.

Anti January 5th, 2008 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralGuy (Post 3227806)
Great individually, but a team that consists of all sweepers is failure.

Look a little closer at that blaziken and Nape :P

Lacks anything that can take a hit from heavy hitters like gengar, Zam, Heracross, Mence, etc.

Put in some walls to fix this problem.

Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 4:17 PM

can you give me any good suggestions?

GeneralGuy January 5th, 2008 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinypoke666 (Post 3227865)
can you give me any good suggestions?

Blissey, Skarmory, Fortresses, Swampert, and Gliscor are pretty good walls.

Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 4:40 PM

what would be a good moveset and evs for that wall swampert

GeneralGuy January 5th, 2008 4:45 PM

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Torrent
EV Spread: 252 HP/ 252 Def
Moveset:
- Curse
- Waterfall
- Avalanche/Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 4:51 PM

cool that sound good thanks for the advice is there anyother suggestions? who do you think i should take off for the swampert?

GeneralGuy January 5th, 2008 4:55 PM

Take out Blaziken. It's basically an Infernape.

By the way, I fixed Infernape. Counters Skarmory and Blissey.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
Ability: Blaze
EV Spread: 124 Atk / 124 SAtk / 252 Spd
Moveset:
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot
- Close Combat
- Earthquake

Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 4:57 PM

alright, any thing else? in really want to make my team as good as possible. i really appreciate the suggestions.

GeneralGuy January 5th, 2008 5:01 PM

Starmie @ Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
EV Spread: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Moveset:
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Icebeam
- Grass Knot

Replace Toxicroak.

Shinypoke666 January 5th, 2008 5:05 PM

that seems interesting, it could out run a lot of stuff.

ABYAY January 5th, 2008 9:38 PM

Just remember you also need something that an wall out Psychics, and here's my idea on some pokemon.

Spiritomb (check the individual request thread a page or 2 back), Umbreon (can work with Curse/PayBack/Baton Pass/Mean Look set, but unsure of EVs), Houndoom might be useful, but not to wall. Your best bet would be Spiritomb since it also lolz at the Fighting and Normal moves.

Anyway, happy hunting with those.

Anti January 5th, 2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralGuy (Post 3227987)
Take out Blaziken. It's basically an Infernape.

By the way, I fixed Infernape. Counters Skarmory and Blissey.

Infernape @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
Ability: Blaze
EV Spread: 124 Atk / 124 SAtk / 252 Spd
Moveset:
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot
- Close Combat
- Earthquake

Just pointing out that EQ is worthless on it...seriously, Close Combat covers all but electrics, and they get hammered by flamethrower anyways. Nasty plot or HP Ice is better really...BTW, wouldn't it be 128 EVs, not 124? :P

But really, I doubt swampert is going to help directly here seeing that it can't switch in to a lot of attacks these days. Eh, that's just me though >.>

I'd get something that can switch in to most any physical attack, and same with special attacks. Skarmblissdol is good, or you can use the COOLER walls (Articuno, Gliscor, Claydol).

I'd consider blissey, this team has a hard time with special attacks in general. special fighting moves can be taken by gallade, which is nice.

Tangrowth is a cool physical wall, but Donphan, forretress, and Skarmory also work. And then there's Steelix.

Ársa January 5th, 2008 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralGuy (Post 3227956)
Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Torrent
EV Spread: 252 HP/ 252 Def
Moveset:
- Curse
- Waterfall
- Avalanche/Stone Edge
- Earthquake


I like iving it that little edge of surprise, and going with Ice Beam over Avalanche.
~M51

Shinypoke666 January 6th, 2008 8:09 AM

so what would be good ev's and moves, and natures for spirtomb, blissy and donphan?

Edit: did you mean this spirtomb?

[email protected]**ggAzelf/Zam
Nature:Careful
Evs:252 HP/144 Atk/114 Sp. def
-Sucker Punch
-Taunt/Pursuit
-Pain split
-Will-O-Wisp/Hypnosis

GeneralGuy January 6th, 2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3228510)
Just pointing out that EQ is worthless on it...seriously, Close Combat covers all but electrics, and they get hammered by flamethrower anyways. Nasty plot or HP Ice is better really...BTW, wouldn't it be 128 EVs, not 124? :P

Thunderpunch or HP Ice could replace EQ. Thunderpunch counters Gyarados and HP Ice counters dragons.

Shinypoke666 January 13th, 2008 5:56 PM

Please give me some more ideas guys. my team has grown imensly because of you guys, and i want it to grow more.

Anti January 13th, 2008 6:03 PM

Blaziken and Infernape do the same thing, take out Blaziken for a wall. This team lacks defense, I'd take out another sweeper and add another wall to help your team take hits.

Shinypoke666 January 13th, 2008 7:01 PM

ok this is my team now

donphan
electivire
infernape
lucario
gallade
spiritomb


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