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Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 10:26 AM

Need help.
 
Kay. I did most of this a long, long time ago, and never wrote down anything, so had to come up with it off the top of my head.
It sucks, most likely. Which is why I'm posting it.
Help pls?
Sorry. I just kinda picked up my ds a couple days ago. I don't remember where I was going with my pokemon. >.>

[email protected] Berry (willing to drop)
Inner Focus
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Rock Climb
Shadow Claw

Azelf (getting rid of this one, i like the moveset alright, though.)
Levitate
Grass Knot
Trick Room
Psychic
Nasty Plot

[email protected]
Snow Cloak
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Strength
Ice Fang

Gengar
Levitate
Hypnosis
Curse
Dream Eater
Toxic

[email protected] Orb
Inner Focus
Dragon Claw
ThunderPunch
Waterfall
Dragon Dance


And I want Cresselia in somewhere. I've got a legit shiny one that I want to use. ._.
Perhaps as a wall or ice beamer?

El Gofre January 6th, 2008 10:29 AM

Could you spend a bit more time on telling us the EVs, natures and items please?

PhoenixFlare January 6th, 2008 10:35 AM

Ok many things wrong with this.
1. Curse on Ghosts= no
it really is a bad idea

2. HMs except for Surf and Waterfall suck

3. Hypnosis + Dream eater seems good but your opponent will switch out.

4. No trick room on fast pokemon.

Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3229644)
Ok many things wrong with this.
1. Curse on Ghosts= no
it really is a bad idea

2. HMs except for Surf and Waterfall suck

3. Hypnosis + Dream eater seems good but your opponent will switch out.

4. No trick room on fast pokemon.

Aw. What should I do instead of curse?
And I know it shouldn't've had trick room. I don't remember why it did in the first place. >.> But I'm switching azelf out anyway.
Mind telling me what attacks to use instead of what you listed above..?

PhoenixFlare January 6th, 2008 10:52 AM

[email protected] life orb/ wise glasses
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Timid
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus blast
-Shadow ball

[email protected] wise glasses/ life orb
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Timid
-Hidden power Fighting
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Nasty plot

I don't know Mamoswine. Dragonite is ok.

Anti January 6th, 2008 11:11 AM

There's no point in using Dnite if you don't give it outrage...:( And it uses it very well with its huge Atk base and DD.

El Gofre January 6th, 2008 11:44 AM

Anti isnt dragon rush a better option, so you dont have to risk confusion?

Anti January 6th, 2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3229865)
Anti isnt dragon rush a better option, so you dont have to risk confusion?

No...Dragon Rush is pretty bad when you can use Dragon Claw or outrage. Confusion doesn't even matter, wiping out a few pokemon at the risk of confusion doesn't bother me. Dragon Rush is a meh move anyways with such poor accuracy.

Outrage, with STAB, 120 base power, and a few DDs, will hurt even the likes of Skarmory pretty bad.

Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3229685)
[email protected] life orb/ wise glasses
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Timid
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus blast
-Shadow ball

[email protected] wise glasses/ life orb
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Timid
-Hidden power Fighting
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Nasty plot

I don't know Mamoswine. Dragonite is ok.

I'll keep that in mind for Azelf.
And I was going for more of an annoyer for Gengar.

luke January 6th, 2008 1:49 PM

Gengar is too fragile to be an annoyer. It's meant to be a Special Sweeper.

Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 3:03 PM

But then I have like five sweepers.
Which should I get rid of?

PhoenixFlare January 6th, 2008 5:50 PM

Ditch Lucario add in a wall.

Slowbro
Articuno
Forretress
Cresselia
Milotic
Blissey
Skarmory
Steelix
Vileplume
etc, etc.

Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3230983)
Ditch Lucario add in a wall.

Slowbro
Articuno
Forretress
Cresselia
Milotic
Blissey
Skarmory
Steelix
Vileplume
etc, etc.

I HAVE cresselia. >.> Bottom of my post, wanna add it in.
So cresselia for a wall?

PhoenixFlare January 6th, 2008 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Addition (Post 3231181)
I HAVE cresselia. >.> Bottom of my post, wanna add it in.
So cresselia for a wall?

Alright but you still have 4 sweepers put in a support, phazer, spiker, or spinner over Lucario.

Sweet Addition January 6th, 2008 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare (Post 3231188)
Alright but you still have 4 sweepers put in a support, phazer, spiker, or spinner over Lucario.

Any ideas on a pokemon? I don't really have anything else good, so I'll have to go hunting. So anything goes, really.
Thanks for all the help, btw. :D


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