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Chompah :x January 9th, 2008 5:43 PM

D/P BluePrint: Comp. Team
 
SpecsMence
Choice Specs
Modest
252 SPEED/252 S.ATK/4 HP

~ Draco Meteor
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Flamethrower
~ Hydro Pump

Lead-off Specs-Mence, lethal.


Forretress
Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP/ 162 ATK/ 96 DEF
~ Spikes
~ Earthquake
~ Rapid Spin
~ Explosion

Spike the team, Rapid Spin away, Cause some damage with EQ, Explode.

Vaporeon
Leftovers
Bold
188 HP/ 252 DEF/ 68 SP.ATK
~Wish
~Ice Beam
~Protect
~Surf

Wish-support, great addition. Ice Beam for dragons, Surf is compulsory and it's STAB

Blissey
Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/ 4 HP
~Aromatherapy
~Softboiled
~Seismic Toss
~Thunder Wave

Cleric Blissey, heal up your team Thunder Wave/ MCToss then switch I guess.

Weezing
Black Sludge
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/ 4 SPE
~Sludge Bomb
~Will-O-Wisp
~Haze
~Pain Split

Cripple stuff that doesnt have GUTS. Haze away DDances then get your HP back with Pain Split :]

Well that's the 5 Pokemon .
What could work in the 6th slot?

Ársa January 9th, 2008 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompah :x (Post 3235298)
SpecsMence
Choice Specs
Modest
252 SPEED/252 S.ATK/4 HP

~ Draco Meteor
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Flamethrower
~ Hydro Pump

Lead-off Specs-Mence, lethal.

Fine

Sceptile
Leftovers
Timid
252 SPEED/200 DEF/56 HP
~ Leech Seed
~ Substitute
~ Toxic
~ Protect

Set up Sub then Leech Seed and Toxic the opponent recovers like a Beast with Leftovers.

Fine.

Forretress
Shed Shell
Relaxed
252 HP/ 162 ATK/ 96 DEF
~ Gyro Ball
~ Light Screen
~ Rapid Spin
~ Explosion

Spike the team, Rapid Spin away, Cause some damage with EQ, Explode.

Shed Shell for Magnezone, since you're gonna be exploding anyway. Gyro Ball with relaxed = o.0 STAB. Light Screen to set your team up.



Vaporeon
Leftovers
Bold
188 HP/ 252 DEF/ 68 SP.ATK
~Wish
~Ice Beam
~Protect
~Surf

Wish-support, great addition. Ice Beam for dragons, Surf is compulsory and it's STAB.

Fine, but I personally like the Sub-Passer set.

Blissey
Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/ 4 HP
~Aromatherapy
~Softboiled
~Seismic Toss
~Ice Beam

Cleric Blissey, heal up your team Thunder Wave/ MCToss then switch I guess.

Ice Beam over Thunder Wave thanks. Serene Grace = 60% Freeze or something. (Maybe Blizzard, 30% or 10% with Ice Beam?)



Weezing
Black Sludge
Bold
252 HP/128 DEF/130SP.DEF
~Sludge Bomb / Gunk Shot
~Will-O-Wisp
~Haze
~Pain Split

Cripple stuff that doesnt have GUTS. Haze away DDances then get your HP back with Pain Split :]

Fine again, but perhaps Gunk Shot over Sludge Bomb.

Well that's the 6 Pokemon but I think there's too many walls :s.
I'm thinking I could replace a wall with~
Gengar
Choice Specs
Timid
252 S.ATK/ 252 SPE/ 4 HP
~Hypnosis
~ThunderBolt
~Focus Blast
~Shadow Ball


Changes in bold. Gengar cannot take a hit, so no black sludge.

~T_S

luke January 9th, 2008 6:12 PM

Weezing doesn't learn Gunk Shot.

Ársa January 9th, 2008 6:18 PM

Doesn't it???

EDIT: lol, thinking of Muk... o.0

They are both poison............. yep............great defense........

~T_S

sims796 January 9th, 2008 6:21 PM

Only one doesn't have the poison's greatest weakness.

Ársa January 9th, 2008 6:27 PM

Yes....Psy... o.0 / Ground...lol

~T_S

Chompah :x January 9th, 2008 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3235381)
Changes in bold. Gengar cannot take a hit, so no black sludge.

~T_S

Thank you for your help Mullac/Tortured..
But Weezing's evs cant be changed unfortunately..
I cant get Serene Grace on Bliss.

Ársa January 9th, 2008 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompah :x (Post 3235449)
Thank you for your help Mullac/Tortured..
But Weezing's evs cant be changed unfortunately..
I cant get Serene Grace on Bliss.

Yes they can, use the stat reducing berries like Tamato Berry. (Reduces spd by 10 EV's)

You can always re-do the whole thing if you wanted, but just deplete the Def. Weezing is a Physical Wall.

o.0! I just realised what Weezing's base stats are. Keep Defense on 224, and add the rest to Sp. Def.

~T_S

Chompah :x January 9th, 2008 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3235469)
Yes they can, use the stat reducing berries like Tamato Berry. (Reduces spd by 10 EV's)

You can always re-do the whole thing if you wanted, but just deplete the Def. Weezing is a Physical Wall.

o.0! I just realised what Weezing's base stats are. Keep Defense on 224, and add the rest to Sp. Def.

~T_S

:x.
So Weezings EVS; 252 HP 224 DEF then 32 on S.DEF??

Ársa January 9th, 2008 8:19 PM

I seriously dunno. You'll need to check how it'll hold up against the common special sweepers. Keep it 252/252 for now, but make sure you damage check later.

~T_S

Chompah :x January 10th, 2008 2:09 AM

okey dokes thanks for all your help!

Iceman3k January 10th, 2008 4:05 AM

I want to clear something up. Ice Beam w/Serene Grace only has 20% freeze chance TOTAL. 10% x 2 makes 20%. And even that's a gargantuan sucky amount. Are we clear on this guys? We are? Good.

Quote:

SpecsMence
Choice Specs
Modest
252 SPEED/252 S.ATK/4 HP

~ Draco Meteor
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Flamethrower
~ Hydro Pump

Lead-off Specs-Mence, lethal.
I guess.

Sceptile
Leftovers
Timid
168 HP / 252 Spd / 88 SAtk
~ Leech Seed
~ Substitute
~ Leaf Storm
~ Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power (Ice)

Set up Sub then Leech Seed and Toxic the opponent recovers like a Beast with Leftovers.
SubSeeding Sceptile is far too frail to depend on defense, and most importantly, all SubSeeders (that have the potential to not suck of course need to have some attacking moves.
If you're going to SubSeed defensively, which is obviously what you were aiming for, you're better off with Abomasnow.
Oh, and one more thing, Toxic sucks.


Forretress
Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP/ 160 ATK/ 96 DEF
~ Spikes
~ Earthquake
~ Rapid Spin
~ Gyro Ball / Substitute

Spike the team, Rapid Spin away, Cause some damage with EQ, Explode.
Do NOT use Explosion on Forretress. Putting a wall to waste is like setting your house on fire by leaving a towel on a hot stove. Gyro Ball please, or if you'd like, Substitute for Super-Effective anticipation switch-ins.

Vaporeon
Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/ 216 DEF/ 40 SP.ATK
~Wish
~Ice Beam
~Protect
~Surf

Wish-support, great addition. Ice Beam for dragons, Surf is compulsory and it's STAB
Irony how you have a WishPasser, and an exploding Physical Wall =/.
HP Before Defense. I gave you enough to raise the point by 2.


Blissey
Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/ 4 SDef
~Aromatherapy
~Softboiled
~Seismic Toss
~Thunder Wave

Cleric Blissey, heal up your team Thunder Wave/ MCToss then switch I guess.
Erm, okay

Weezing
Black Sludge
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/ 4 SPE
~Sludge Bomb
~Will-O-Wisp
~Haze
~Pain Split

Cripple stuff that doesnt have GUTS. Haze away DDances then get your HP back with Pain Split :]
I'd at least include Thunderbolt for the special surprise against Waters.

Well that's the 6 Pokemon but I think there's too many walls :s.
I'm thinking I could replace a wall with~
Gengar
Wide Lens
Timid
252 S.ATK/ 252 SPE/ 4 HP
~Hypnosis
~ThunderBolt
~Focus Blast
~Shadow Ball
Wide Lens plz.
You need Physical Sweepers. At least add a Scarf Attacker. Can't go wrong with Garchomp.

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 108 HP / 240 Atk / 160 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Fang / Fire Blast
- Stone Edge
The HP is for survivability, since he only needs 280 Speed Max to Scarf Effectively. If you're afraid of other people with ScarfChomps with Max Speed, then feel free to max its Speed out if you wish.

Against your team, Medicham and Alakazam are your biggest problems.

Chompah :x January 10th, 2008 2:14 PM

Do you think I should just kick out Sceptile and have a phsyichal [sp?] sweeper instead?

El Gofre January 10th, 2008 2:21 PM

I dont have time for a full rate, but you have literally no physical offense. Apart from forry, whos only gonna blow up anyway.

Chompah :x January 10th, 2008 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3236850)
I dont have time for a full rate, but you have literally no physical offense. Apart from forry, whos only gonna blow up anyway.

Points at teh Weezing over here --->
What about my Weezing?

bump :x.
any pokes for the 6th slot??

can I have please have some advice??


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