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MegaMushroom07 January 18th, 2008 12:48 PM

I'm no expert, by no means, but I don't think Moltres is reliable part of the team. Stone Edge is a common move nowadays; That 4x Weakness can't be ignored.

Rest of the team looks alright though.

Dark Azelf January 18th, 2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3257998)
I'm no expert, by no means, but I don't think Moltres is reliable part of the team. Stone Edge is a common move nowadays; That 4x Weakness can't be ignored.

Rest of the team looks alright though.

Thats what Jirachi and Donphan are for. To take stone edge's and to clear the field of Stealth rock with rapid spin. Moltres is awesome when played correctly and a VERY reliable pokemon, it is bulky 90/90/85. it has awesome sp.att, 125 and its speed is ok. 90.


I also dont get whats up with people, as soon as they see a 4X weakness, its like "OMFG 1t H4s 4 4x w34kn3ss !!!!!31twentytwo!". It doesnt matter as long as you have something to cover its 4x weakness. For example i use Heatran, it has a 4x weakness to ground, so what ? I pack Salamence and Skarmory aswell, these 3 cover each others weakness, therefore work and i dont have to worry about oncoming Earthquakes at all.

Same apply's here in Loquacitys case and team, he doesnt care about stone edge as he has Jirachi and Donphan to cover this.

luke January 18th, 2008 1:15 PM

So far I've gotten two parts of my team:

Modest Moltres: 20 / 0 / 29 / 31 / 16 / 25
Jolly Tauros: 4 / 31 / 21 / 5 / 24 / 30

Kinda of wish Tauros' HP was better. Lucked out with Moltres I guess because it's Shiny. Soft-Resetting for the win. I am now breeding Bold Eevees.

I also still need a complete move set for Bronzong. I might regret losing Wish support, so Jirachi might stay.

Anti January 18th, 2008 1:51 PM

Um, JB, Explosion is so powerful that a CB metagross with explosion does a whopping 85% to SKAMRORY! (You know, the pokemon that resists explosion and has 140 base defense.) That alone should show you the destructive force behind that move.

And to be honest, I'd go for wish support...IMO. I don't really have any facts behind that, it's just a personal preference deal lol

No glaring weaks at the time I can see, let me read through it a little more...

EDIT: On second thought, I'd just strap wish to Vappy if you want wish support over surf or IB. You'll want to use Bronzong, Choice Band Mence hurts a bit...then again, nobody uses it :0

luke January 19th, 2008 10:09 AM

About what range do you all suggest I have Vaporeon's Defense IVs? Like, what's the lowest Vaporeon's Defense IV should go?

Anti January 19th, 2008 10:11 AM

Since Vappy has pretty lol defense (really bad), you'll want it to be 25 or higher probably, as physical attackers gobble it up :(

luke January 19th, 2008 10:23 AM

I was frustrated earlier, but I just caught a Bold Female Eevee with 26 IV in Defense. So time for some breeding with my Male Eevee with superior IVs in HP and Special Attack.


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