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BobberyJo January 14th, 2008 10:47 PM

Please Rate my team
 
I think I'm lacking in walls, so I'm taking suggestions.
Please don't be too harsh, I'm a noob.

Garchomp-Adamant-Choice Scarf
Crunch
EQ
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw
357/388/203/154/205/301

Electivire-Adamant-Expert Belt
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
EQ
292/377/156/203/206/289

Umbreon-Bold-Leftovers
Mean Look
Toxic
Moonlight
Baton Pass
149/316/156/328/166

Salamence-Modest-Choice Specs
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
332/275/195/350/194/299

Infernape-Jolly-Expert Belt
Flare Blitz
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Swordsdance
291/307/176/203/178/346


Sixth Spot is Blank. I need recommendations.
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Angelic Diablo January 15th, 2008 10:22 AM

Garchomp and Salamence on the same team is a bit much, especially with no Ice resistance on the team. And your team is far to attack orientated, Weavile dispatches almost all your pokemon without blinking an eye.

Also stats are meaningless, it's much better to list the EVs and if relevant IVs.

BobberyJo January 15th, 2008 3:34 PM

Thanks, so which one do you think that I should throw out?

Angelic Diablo January 15th, 2008 4:29 PM

Well if you throw Salamence out, you need another special sweeper, and if you lose Garchomp, well you have 2 physical sweepers beside him so I suppose Garchomp

Ársa January 15th, 2008 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobberyJo (Post 3250085)
I think I'm lacking in walls, so I'm taking suggestions.
Please don't be too harsh, I'm a noob.

[email protected] Scarf
Lonely
252 Atk, 224 Spd, 32 Sp. Atk
Fire Blast / Fire Fang
EQ
Stone Edge
Outrage

If you are running Choice Scarf, Outrage, and if you run Fire Blast, use the nature and EV's stated, otherwise Adamant and 252/252 Atk/Spd.


[email protected]Expert Belt
Lonely
252 Atk, 176 Spd, 80 Sp. Atk


Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Cross Chop

If you don't run Fire Blast on Garchomp, then run Thunderbolt on Electivire. (For Skarmory) Otherwise, the same nature and EV's are Garchomp (Adamant)

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Impish
252 HP, 184 Def / Sp. Def, 72 Def / Sp. Def


Mean Look
Baton Pass
Toxic
Wish

Good other than the EV's and moveset. Wish over Moonlight, so you can BP it to a pokemon to give protection when passing into an attack from the pokemon you trap with Mean Look.

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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump

Good.


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Naive
252 Sp. Atk, 216 Spd, 42 Atk

Close Combat
Grass Knot
Flamethrower
Stone Edge

Mix-Ape, because you don't need 3 Physical Sweepers.


Sixth Spot is Blank. I need recommendations.

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Careful
252 HP, 180 Sp. Def, 78 Def

Fire Punch
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp
Brick Break / Ice Punch

Counters Exploders and Heracross, which you need badly. Pain Split to heal, and Will-o-Wisp for those Physical Sweepers that cause you grief. (Other than Heracross, never WoW on Cross, for obvious reasons... o.0)
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Ok, hopefully that helps somewhat.

Regards,

~T_S

Quote:

Originally Posted by LORD NIGHTMARE (Post 3252277)
first of all if your using Garchomp as an opener replace stone edge with Fire fang if it isn't an opener you can keep stone edge.

Second of all your Salamence has a bad move set, i can see where your coming from but you have made one critical mistake you gave it Dragon Pulse and Draco Meteor, get rid of dragon pulse for either HP Fighting (or other) or Brick Break. don't go saying but its a special sweeper, if its a special sweeper then Brick Break is a good way to score a cheep shot. well it's allot better than wasting a move spot with Dragon Pulse.

That is Specs-Mence. Draco Meteor is for early game hits, and 1HKO's, and Dragon Pulse is for late-game, or for a move that has STAB but doesn't have the added decrease of Sp. Atk like Draco Meteor. Having a Modest nature with no Atk EV's and getting stuck on a Brick Break is stupid. Also, why would you use HP Fighting? Blissey? Draco Meteor and Dragon Pulse would do more damage because of STAB anyway... o.0

Also your Infernape is also bad, well not so bad just a bit underdone ether remove Swords Dance which i don't like to do, so if you want to keep Swords Dance remove Expert Belt for Focus Sash that way you can use Swords Dance with out fear of a knock out.
And note for Angelic Diablo who told you to get rid ether Mence or Chomp if you have to pokemon week against ice DON'T SWITCH THEM IN AGAINST ICE DEALING FOE'S duh.

Thankyou for stating the obvious. Angelic Diablo is 10 times the rater you are. Both have 4x Ice Weakness, and are owned by Weavile. Besides, the poster has 3 Physical Sweepers! He only needs two at the most, think will you?

Also i don't get why you have an Electivire because there is no threat of electric moves for Electivire to wall. a Metagross is a very good pokemon for your team and as a physical wall I'll give yo a set now
Metagross @ Shucaberry/leftovers/ focus sach, Adamant
Agility
Zen Headbutt
EQ
Thunder Punch
Ev's HP 118, Att 152, Def 152, SPD 88
also note that i don't have Meteor Mash i have Zen Headbutt instead because meter mash has a miss rate of 15% wich is the only reason i chose Zen Headbutt as my STAB move.

Ok, Electivire covers 13 of 17 types for Super Effective Damage. As well as that, Meteor Mash also has the chance of upping your Attack, that is why it is used. You don't seem to have a problem with Stone Edge on Infernape or Garchomp do you?

And for your sixth pokemon i recommend a Blissey and don't call me old and predictable until you see what i propose and why.
Blissey @ leftovers, Modest, Natural Cure
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Aromatherapy/Stealth Rock/Thunderwave
HP 253, SP.A 253, SPD 4
this is a special sweeper Bliss set up very rarely used but it works, send it out against a pokemon with low SP.D and own it. its really only a set up for cheap shots it also works as a special wall it is a Blissey after all.

Ah ha ha ha ha! lol, this is sig material. Blissey dies without 252 Def EV's, the Speed isn't going to help it against anything, and the Modest Nature doesn't do jack. It isn't going to beat anything else with that set, just get KO'd Easier. At least if you're going to have Bolt-Beam then run Clam Mind and the normal Spread... Seriously, learn something...

well thats my two cents ask me if your not quite shore on anything k
cya

Ok, I'm asking... I'm not sure on everything you say. If you don't understand, don't post, simple as that.

Please don't listen to him, listen to Angelic Diablo, he knows what he is talking about.

Regards,

~T_S

BobberyJo January 15th, 2008 8:23 PM

Thanks for the comments, I'll take out the Garchomp and find another special sweeper or wall.

Ársa January 15th, 2008 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobberyJo (Post 3252361)
Thanks for the comments, I'll take out the Garchomp and find another special sweeper or wall.

Replace with a Special Wall. Blissey is good, but please don't listen to the idiot.

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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def
Serene Grace

Softboiled
Ice Beam
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss / Thunder Wave

Seismic Toss is only from an Emerald Move Tutor, so if you don't feel like doing tons of breeding in Emerald to just get the attack, the Thunder Wave is fine.

Regards,

~T_S

sims796 January 15th, 2008 8:29 PM

Unfortunately, Tortured is right. LORD's advice was just, just horrible. I urge you to listen to Angelic, as he said everything that needs to be said.

Calling him an idiot wasn't needed, though...

Ársa January 15th, 2008 8:30 PM

Sorry, but he has posted in about 5 threads with nothing but crap... I'm getting frustrated.... o.0

~T_S


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