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Ársa January 15th, 2008 7:07 PM

Go Loquacity....and RMT v2.0
 
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[email protected] Band
Jolly
252 Atk, 216 Spd, 42 HP

Ice Shard
Night Slash
Brick Break
Pursuit

Choice Band Weavile is OMFG!!!1!1!!

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[email protected] Orb
Adamant
44 HP, 252 Atk, 212 Spd
Poison Heal

Focus Punch
Spore
Seed Bomb
Substitute

I have never used Breloom, but I'm willing. Spore puts them to sleep, then set up a Focus Punch. Spore + Subpunch is pwnsome!

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[email protected] Sludge
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

Fire Blast
Pain Split
Thunderbolt
Haze

Heracross counter and Hazer.

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[email protected] Specs
Timid
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

Specs-Gar. I decided against Hypnosis for Energy Ball, so that Swampert isn't so pesky.

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Bold
252 Def, 148 HP, 110 Sp. Def
Serene Grace

Softboiled
Calm Mind
Ice Beam / Flamethrower
Sing

CMBlissey. Comes in on a Special attacker, then Calm Minds up on the switch. Softboiled is for recovery, and Sing to help with Calm Minding. Unsure on whether to use Flamethrower or Ice Beam.

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[email protected] Sash
Naive
252 Sp. Atk, 216 Spd, 40 Atk

Close Combat
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Grass Knot

Mix-Ape, Skarm-Bliss killer, lovely. :D

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Ok, I have never used any of these pokemon bar Blissey, and that is a new set, so help is much appreciated. I'm currently tossing Ideas around for a PBR Team, as I want a different one to my wifi team.

Regards,

~T_S

Dark Azelf January 16th, 2008 4:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3252236)
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[email protected]Choice Band
Jolly
252 Atk, 216 Spd, 40 HP

Pursuit
Brick break
Ice Shard

Night Slash

Counter sash fails, from personal experience i can tell you this, its screwed over by the sheer number of Hippowdon and Tyranitar leads.

Revenge kill choice band is the way to go, even the swords dance set isnt as good as this thing.

216 speed evs is all it needs, if you max it you get speed ties with swellow and crobat etc., which is redundant when you have Ice SHard. It lets you outrun max speed + speed nature Dugtrio, Sceptile and Alakazam still.

Pursuit wrecks things and hits things that you know will switch and that wont like taking a Night Slash and will probably ohko should they do so. It ohkos Gengar, Alakazam and Azelf should they switch or not. The latter must run with 32 or more hp evs or more to survive a pursuit when it stays in. 40 HP evs on weavile allow you to at worst, switch in directly into an unboosted Azelfs Flamethrower and live.

Brick Break so you dont get lolled at by Heatran, T-Tar and other steels such as magnezone, it also helps against other weavile.

Ice Shard YOU NEED, trust me, when you come across as outraging scarf Garchomp you'll be thankful you have it, and when a Dragon Dance Salamence or Dragonite start ripping you apart.


Night Slash is your main stab moves.



JOLLY NATURE ALWAYS ON WEAVILE !


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[email protected] Orb
Adamant
44 HP, 252 Atk, 212 Spd
Poison Heal

Focus Punch
Spore
Seed Bomb / Stone Edge / Leech Seed
Substitute


Breloom without sub is fail, it gets revenge killed too easily.

Sub lets you hit the switch in after you spore something, if you set a sub up on the switch then the counter they bring in HAS to take a STAB focus punch which nothing likes even if its resistant to it. It also bypasses speed if the counter they bring in is faster as you have a sub up and therefore safe. Which = a few free focus punches.

Spore Sub focus punch is deadly.

Leech seed is cool if you want to sub punch and sub seed it at the same time just to be annoying and drain health quickly



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[email protected] Sludge
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

Fire Blast
Pain Split
Thunderbolt
Haze / Will-o-Wisp


hera will beat you quicker than you beat it if your not packing Fire Blast, Sludge Bomb does nothing for Weezing even though it gets STAB.

Fire Blast for said Heracross.

T-Bolt for Taunt Gyarados who has a field day on you otherwise.

Pick between Haze and Will-o-wisp. I dont like Will-o-wisp this gen, its too risky.


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Timid
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

Nice, Choice Scarf Modest Gengar is sweet aswell.

Hidden power Ice can go on here somewhere if you wish


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Bold
252 Def, 148 HP, 104 Sp. Def
Serene Grace
Softboiled
Calm Mind
Ice Beam / Flamethrower
T-Bolt


Ewww. I dont particularly like CMBliss


But, Yeah needs more T-Bolt or bulky waters are gonna really be a pain

It wants Bold Nature.

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[email protected]Life Orb
Naive
252 Sp. Atk, 216 Spd, 40 Atk

Close Combat
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Grass Knot

if you want to OHKO Blissey and Snorlax or anything else for that matter, you MUST use Life Orb.

Wants Nasty Plot >> Stone Edge, its meant primarily for sp.sweeping and Nasty Plot allows you to sweep after their sp.wall is taken out with Close Combat.

Dont go with stone edge for the simple fact it does less than half to salamence after an intimidate and does even less to gyarados, dont try and take out threats which it cant handle anyways with or without stone edge.If you want to take out Salamence and Gyarados use Hidden power Ice or Hidden power Electric to beat each one respectively


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Changes and comments are in bold.

You lack a status absorber apart from poison heal and toxic orb on breloom.

Lumine January 16th, 2008 7:42 AM

Uh just to add to Dark_Azelf's post

CMBliss needs Bold nature

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Bold
252 Def, 148 HP, 104 Sp. Def
Serene Grace
-Softboiled
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-T-Bolt

There..

Dark Azelf January 16th, 2008 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumine (Post 3252991)
Uh just to add to Dark_Azelf's post

CMBliss needs Bold nature

[email protected] Leftovers
Bold
252 Def, 148 HP, 104 Sp. Def
Serene Grace
-Softboiled
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-T-Bolt

There..

Whoops, i must of missed the nature on that.....

*Edits previous post*

Ársa January 16th, 2008 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3252802)
Changes and comments are in bold.

You lack a status absorber apart from poison heal and toxic orb on breloom.

Thanks Azelf, I also just noticed that a Gallade does me in pretty bad too. (Anything that runs Psychic really, so something like Psychic / Focus Blast Alakazam would go through me, although I have things that are faster)

~T_S

Anti January 16th, 2008 3:06 PM

Adamant Weavile is great if it isn't for covering Gengar, Zam, and the likes. The Damant CB Weavile is my Favorite lead (and let's be honest, stuff like Gengar and Zam aren't giong to stay in anyways.)

But Counter Sash does fail >.>

Ársa January 16th, 2008 3:11 PM

I'm making changes now. :)

~T_S

Anti January 16th, 2008 3:17 PM

It can't be a CB Weavile with a Focus Sash :P

Ársa January 16th, 2008 3:24 PM

I hadn't edited it yet anit! GET OFF MY CASE WILL YOU! I'M SICK OF IT! OK! ABSOLUTLEY DAMN SICK OF IT!!!!!!!!!

AAAARGH!

ok, lol, that was fun. As I quietly pointed out, I hadn't edited it yet...

~T_S


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