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Chompah :x January 16th, 2008 5:36 PM

Chompah's Hamburger Squad :]
 
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[email protected] Specs
252 S.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Modest [+ S.Atk - Atk ]

~ Draco Meteor
~ Hydro Pump
~ Fire Blast
~ Dragon Pulse


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[email protected] Orb
36 HP / 252 S.Atk / 220 Speed
Timid [+ Speed - Atk ]

~ Nasty Plot
~ Psychic
~ Flamethrower
~ Grass Knot / Explosion

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188 HP / 68 S.Atk / 252 Defense
Bold [+ Defense - Atk ]

~ Ice Beam
~ Surf
~ Protect
~ Wish

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252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 HP
Bold [ + Defense - Atk ]

~ Softboiled
~ Seismic Toss
~ Thunder Wave
~ Softboiled

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252 HP / 252 Defense / 6 HP
Bold [ + Defense - Atk ]

~ Will-O-Wisp / Thunderbolt
~ Haze
~ Pain Split
~ Sludge Bomb

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252 S.Atk / 232 Speed / 24 Atk
Lonely [ + Atk - Defense ] (can't be changed)

~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower
~ Grass Knot
~ Close Combat

luke January 16th, 2008 7:07 PM

You realize your team is heavily Special-based. Any decent Special Wall will hurt you.

ultranerd57 January 16th, 2008 7:12 PM

Too special orientated. Make Salamence physical and give Infernape Flare Blitz and that might even it out a little.

Ársa January 16th, 2008 7:17 PM

Ice Beam on Blissey please, else you're walled by all Ghost types. (you have Softboiled twice...)

Fire Blast over Sludge Bomb on weezing please, or else it isn't much of a Heracross Counter.

Perhaps run this Vaporeon,

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Bold
188 HP, 70 Sp. Atk, 252 Def

Surf / Ice Beam
Substitute
Wish / Acid Armor
Baton Pass

124 HP Subs will do wonders for any team.

BTW, you are heavily Special Based, as Loquacity said. Any team with a decent Sp. Wall will beat you.

~T_S

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3254600)
Too special orientated. Make Salamence physical and give Infernape Flare Blitz and that might even it out a little.

Flare Blitz + Life Orb = o.0!!!

Anti January 16th, 2008 7:50 PM

Yeah, what Mullac said regarding Nape. Blissey massacres you, no doubt. Give Azelf Explosion...or do something!

Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Aerial Ace / Flamethrower
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge

When somebody mentioned physical Mence I got all excited.

Ársa January 16th, 2008 8:01 PM

Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Aerial Ace / Flamethrower
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge


Flamethrower, yet Adamant Anti??? I can understand why, even with CB, it can work, but why with Adamant? It'll have a max Sp. Atk of 230 (With 31 IV's and no EV's)

On Skarm: (252 HP, 252 Def, which isn't used, but as example)

Fire Fang = 41.62% - 48.80% (With 44 Atk EV's, = 208 Def EV's, will go over 50%)
Flamethrower = 60.18% - 70.66% (Still 2HKO Skarm)

So, if a Skarm runs other than 252 Def, it is still a 2HKO with Adamant, so either Lonely or Fire Fang.

~T_S

Anti January 16th, 2008 8:47 PM

Um, CBmence doesn't care if the SAtk drops...still does whatever to Skarmory. I've run Adamant CBmence with Flamethrower/Fire Blast for awhile, a -Def or -SDef nature is unnecessary and only hinders its ability to switch in.

Ársa January 16th, 2008 9:20 PM

But point being that it can then use Fire Fang against other pokemon with greater effect, hence Flamethrower and Fire Fang will both 2HKO Skarm with 252HP/212Def/44Atk. I can only imagine that is what Flamethrower is there for, but if both 2HKO when Adamant, then Flamethrower should be replaced by Fire Fang, where it can do more Damage on the whole.

~T_S

Jimmyray January 17th, 2008 5:59 AM

Your Blissey kinda has 2 softboiled's...

Kirioroshi January 17th, 2008 6:10 AM

He also has listed Hp Ev's Twice too.

Iceman3k January 17th, 2008 6:32 AM

And to think I could quote without having to hit the quote reply button =D
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252 S.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Modest [+ S.Atk - Atk ]

~ Draco Meteor
~ Hydro Pump
~ Fire Blast
~ Dragon Pulse
Sure, whatever.

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36 HP / 252 S.Atk / 220 Speed
Timid [+ Speed - Atk ]

~ Nasty Plot
~ Psychic
~ Flamethrower / Thunderbolt
~ Grass Knot / Explosion
I'd personally recommend Thunderbolt to piss off Gyarados.



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188 HP / 68 S.Atk / 252 Defense
Bold [+ Defense - Atk ]

~ Ice Beam
~ Surf
~ Protect
~ Wish
Good.

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212 HP / 252 Defense / 40 Def
Bold [ + Defense - Atk ]

~ Softboiled
~ Seismic Toss
~ Thunder Wave
~ Aromatherapy
YOU HAD SOFTBOILED LISTED TWICE.

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252 HP / 252 Defense / 6 SAtk
Bold [ + Defense - Atk ]

~ Will-O-Wisp / Thunderbolt
~ Haze
~ Pain Split
~ Sludge Bomb
I guess.

[email protected] Orb
252 S.Atk / 232 Speed / 24 Atk
Lonely [ + Atk - Defense ] (can't be changed) (Uh, yes it can)

~ Nasty Plot
~ Flamethrower
~ Grass Knot
~ Close Combat
And why can't you change the nature? Are you too lazy to breed another Infernape?
Scarfed Chompers can wreck you without warning.

flamehaze94 January 17th, 2008 8:35 PM

It doesn't necessarily matter if the team's "too" specially based. MixApe can take all of them on himself with Sheme and Close Combat. As can Azelf with Explosion. With Wish support from Vaporeon, he can easily outstall Blissey, unless it's running Toxic.

For Ape, with Lonely, you don't need Atk EVs anymore as CC already 0HKOs Blissey. Just pump them into HP. As speed raising nature like Naive or Hasty would be more beneficial though.

120HP / 252SpAtk / 136Spd is better for Salamence.

Lol? I like Softboiled/Softboiled Blissey's too.

Weezing should have Flamethower>Sludge Bomb.



Very Gengar weak unless you add Ice Beam to Blissey.


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