![]() |
Dark_Azelf got me thinking and...
Loquacity Please Close this, as I don't want people to be seeing my team. (People go here every time I battle, shame on them... :()
By the way, I'm pretty sure I've got damn close to the ultimate group around.....that thing..... ~T_S |
Everyone does realize Superpower drops the user's Attack and Defense by one level, right?
|
Quote:
Changes are in bold. Looks quite nice. |
So.. explain which genius came up with the OU Deoxys idea
|
Speed Deoxys simply cannot compete in Uber. And there were a ton of people (myself included) who participated in a series of tests on Wi-Fi and on Shoddy to see if it would be too powerful for OU. I stopped participating relatively early because I had other things I needed to focus on, but I guess that they found that it didn't overpower the OU metagame. None of it's stats are particularly outstanding besides it's Speed. If it can't get a super effective hit on it's opponent, it won't be OHKO'ing anytime soon. And even with a super effective strike, it's not a guaranteed KO because 95 Attack / 95 Special Attack is not impressive. It's HP is terrible and it doesn't have the Defenses to hold it up.
I'm surprised to see everyone is so closed-minded to tier changes. Simply amazed. "OMG SMOGON SUXX0RS! THEY SAID IT SO OMG IT DOESN'T WORK! SCREW THEM!" You all act like Smogon is filled with a bunch of novice trainers. While I don't agree with them 100% of the time, they do have a good understanding of the metagame. And it wasn't like it was a rash decision. They performed a lot of battles and tried a lot of move sets. Trust me -- Speed Deoxys is workable in OU. |
Oh, only the speed form? Understood
I'd give Gliscor Stealth Rock over either Knock Off or Aerial Ace |
Imagine Deoxys-A in OUs lololololololol
Sorry, that was me having a moment. But anyways, D-E (I know, my nickname for it because the name is painfully annoying to spell >.>) wants more Shadow Ball action. With a CM or two, Noir and Cressi can be overpowered. Psychic and Psycho boost don't do much for ya IMO. |
I think people don't realize its power yet. Some pokemon may be too sucky for Ubers, but that doesn't mean they should be OU (Mew for example). Being the fastest in the game, mainly in the OU metagame, potentially puts a stop to all the DD / Scarf users, namely Gyarados and Garchomp. I don't know about you, but if someone, somehow, managed to get 2 DD's on Gyara and then suddently Deoxys comes out of nowhere forcing a switch, I'd be quite pissed if I was the Gyara user. This pokemon take a lot from the OU metagame instead of contributing to it IMO.
Also, Deoxys-E stats aren't SO bad. 90 in both defences and 50 HP can be compared to Starmie, and Starmie usually keeps it HP unmaxed at 304 (which is ironically the max HP of Deoxys-E). A defensive set with enough power to KO Gyarados/Garchomp can be quite terrorizing, as Deoxys-E even learns Spikes, something every team should fear. Thunderbolt is not only threatening Gyara, but also Skarmory who usually tries to set up her own spikes or whirlwind you away. There are better mixed sweepers in the OU metagame, but they don't have access to moves like Spikes and Knock, nor do they have the ability to pressure stall. Now, for the team. Deoxys-E: Superpower is highly overrated IMO. Blissey switching in on Superpower has a very slim chance of happening. If it's 1v1 then Blissey can simply use Softboiled and laugh at Deoxys why it is left with -1 Atk and Def. I agree that it needs a way of handling Weavile/TTar, so why not give it Focus Blast? Gengar doesn't complain about the 70% accuracy, why should Deoxys-E be any different? Blissey will fear it a lot more with some calm minds passed to it. Gliscor: It doesn't need jolly, go impish. The only thing it should outspeed is jolly TTar so it can Roost off damage from Stone Edge. Also, it doesn't need Aerial Ace to counter Heracross. At long as Hera is faster, he will not be doing much damage, and your Earthquakes will kill him eventually. You can switch it for Stealth Rock or Ice Fang, but keeping it isn't a bad idea. Celebi: It should have a way of healing itself, so Recover > HP ice IMO. You already have Ice Shard on Weavile and Ice Beam on Deoxys-E. Weavile: I personally think Pursuit is a must on any Weavile, but your set can work I guess. Just be careful because you won't get many opportunities to use Swords Dance being left unharmed. |
Uhh, Smogon says Deoxys is uber again guys.
|
Where did you read this? If it's the list, they don't always update that.
|
Ooh, Yeah it was in the list :z.
|
UPDATED!!! PLEASE SEE NEW TEAM, TOLD YOU I LIKE CHANGE ;)
~T_S |
Overall i think it's alright, but in the end its up to you, one thing ill have to criticise on is having ubers (Legendarys) i dont like them, having superpowered stats and all, the way i build my teams is having all pokemon that can beat eachother, so basically a cycle.
|
Yeah, Deoxys might be legendary, but it is now OU, obviously. And I wouldn't call legendary pokemon uber. You'll be calling Entei uber, which can be easily beaten by many of the OUs and some BLs.
|
Yes, the only reason I am using Deoxys-E is because it is now considered OU. Besides, it is just an experiment. People limiting themselves to no legends when they can have legends that will seriously improve their team are..........indifferent to me.
~T_S |
Quote:
Changes are in bold, Nothing really damages swampert here, and you get beat up pretty badly with Heracross due to Toxic Spikes, i use Gliscor in conjunction with Tenta and they work well as they cover each others weaknesses. |
Zong was my Priority in getting Deoxys in, and I must say, absolutely no for the no attack Deoxys. I just had a 2 hour stall war with Alakazam17 and only 3 pokemon fainted, purely because Deoxys couldn't attack, and he kept switching out to avoid using PP.
EDIT: By the way: Zong: 31 / 30 / 31 / 27 / 31 / 0 ~T_S |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 6:06 AM. |
![]()
© 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.
Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.