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Anti January 19th, 2008 1:52 PM

I'm about to turn Deoxys-E uber again
 
Because we ALL know my favorite nasty plox0rz passer, Ambipom, is back in business. think about it: uber speed + uber special attack = uber special sweeper.

So yeah, I have everything figured out, especially dealing with blissey or any other special wall. Still figuring out Dusknoir.

So anyways, I have my Nasty Plot Passing underway and shizzam! Urg, I hate Shoddy's formatting though >.>

Swampert (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/212 Def/56 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Surf
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam

Sets up SR to beat all focus sashers. That's the mission.

Ambipom (♂) @ Leftovers ** Sup Deoxys
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/252 Spd/4 SDef
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Nasty Plot
- Taunt
- Substitute

Need I explain?

Azelf @ Life Orb ** Sup Cressi
Ability: Levitate
EVs: Whatever Dark_Azelf's EVs were
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Flamethrower
- Psychic
- Grass Knot

Sweeps, but best of all goes BOOM on blissey >:0

Articuno @ Leftovers ** Sup Gengar
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/160 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Heal Bell
- Roar
- Roost

Obvious.

Forretress (♂) @ Leftovers ** Sup Blissey
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/196 Def
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball

Needed a spinner and something to blow up on blissey in case Azelf went down, and this was wahat I came up with. Kills Weavile.

Deoxys-e @ Leftovers ** Sup OU Metagame
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 40 HP/216 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Focus Blast

Yeah baby. With Bliss out of the way and a nasty plot pass, it's pretty obvious who's going to win the fight. EVs need help.

Yeah, I'll edit D-E later, still trying to figure this thing out :(

Spoiler:
87


Don't ask what the spoiler is for...I'll explain later.

El Gofre January 19th, 2008 2:03 PM

Lol this is why i think all deoxys forms shud stay uber, because a great passing poke like this makes it just as nails as the attack version. Deoxys doesnt need anywhere near as much speed as that, go 140HP 100 Spd. Also, im gonna be way out there and suggest shell bell over lefties.. You're gonna be inflicting damage every turn with this beast, why not get health for doing it?

ABYAY January 19th, 2008 2:12 PM

Gofre poses a great point; Deoxys has low HP, so Lefties is gonna rack up... like 15-20 HP a turn? You're gonna bash a lot of things. Shell Bell ftw.

I'm beginning to wonder what Smogun has done with Deoxys... a very dumb move indeed by them putting a monster like that in the simple OU area. Very nice team.

Samson January 19th, 2008 2:12 PM

leftovers on deoxys is berserk. so is focus blast. deoxys can't afford to miss. i suggest giving it lum berry and giving it extremespeed for the last moveslot. rather modest nature, go rash. physical priority moves are the only thing you'll need to worry about, so lowering sp defense isn't an issue. also, the hp evs are kinda pointless to me. if you don't want extreme speed, than you should definitely consider shadow ball. it'll definitely come in handy vs cressy/dusknoir.

yannow, this thing would make a decent starter in doubles with a No Gaurd Machamp. all that accuracy... my oh my. ^.^

Anti January 19th, 2008 2:12 PM

It was a nice team until Heatran showed up >.>

EDIT: Alright, I'll try and fix that deoxys...yay

El Gofre January 19th, 2008 2:16 PM

Swampy's EQ sorts Heatran, it resists both its stabs and the entire standard set only causes nuetral damage.

Dark Azelf January 19th, 2008 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3261125)

Swampert (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/212 Def/56 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Surf
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam

Nice mixpert

Ambipom (♂) @ Leftovers ** Sup Deoxys
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/252 Spd/4 SDef
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Nasty Plot
- Taunt
- Substitute

LOL, i remember this.

Azelf @ Life Orb ** Sup Cressi
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 38 Att /252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Flamethrower
- Psychic
- Grass Knot / U-Turn

38 Att evs ohko blissey, U-Turn can go >> grass Knot if you want to wear down counters.


Articuno @ Leftovers ** Sup Gengar
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/160 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Heal Bell
- Roar
- Roost


lol "sup gengar " More like "Sup Stealth Rocks lol". Just kidding =p

Looks fine


Forretress (♂) @ Leftovers ** Sup Blissey
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/196 Def
Relaxed nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes / Gyro ball
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Rest

Rest AND Explosion =/ How redundant. Rest just to blow up

Spikes or Gyro Ball plesh as you have deoxys and Azelf to end blissey


Deoxys-e @ Leftovers ** Sup OU Metagame
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 160 HP / 96 SPEED /252 SAtk
Timid nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Psychic / Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast


How much frikkin speed do you want XD

96 SPEED evs get you 462 speed which is more than enough, Shadow Ball can be considered for better coverage. Timid Plesh


Changers are in bold-zorz

Wait, wheres a physical sweeper =/

Chompah :x January 19th, 2008 2:39 PM

Uhh, Smogon says Deoxys is uber again guys.
Wait im not sure.
It might be they havent updated the list..
CUz on the list it says deoxys is uber.

luke January 19th, 2008 2:47 PM

Stop posting that everywhere. X_x; I'm reading on Smogon right now, and it says nothing about it being uber again.

shedinjask January 19th, 2008 3:25 PM

Smogon is still listing Typhlosion as UU. Their list hasn't been updated in ages.

Syaoran January 19th, 2008 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loquacity (Post 3261306)
Stop posting that everywhere. X_x; I'm reading on Smogon right now, and it says nothing about it being uber again.

But where does Smogon say it's OU?!?! Shoddy =\= Smogon

luke January 19th, 2008 3:56 PM

There's a whole topic discussing it on the Smogon forums. You have to look for it.

Syaoran January 19th, 2008 4:02 PM

It's a discussion thread, and I even posted there. It doesn't say Smogon allows it.

El Gofre January 20th, 2008 4:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABYAY (Post 3261199)
Gofre poses a great point; Deoxys has low HP, so Lefties is gonna rack up... like 15-20 HP a turn? You're gonna bash a lot of things. Shell Bell ftw.

Yeah! Finaaly the recognition i deserve :P

And yeah, no-where on smogon does it say deoxys-e is back in uber. But in the hands of players such as anti, i doubt it will stay this way for long.

Syaoran January 20th, 2008 5:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson (Post 3261202)
leftovers on deoxys is berserk. so is focus blast. deoxys can't afford to miss. i suggest giving it lum berry and giving it extremespeed for the last moveslot. rather modest nature, go rash. physical priority moves are the only thing you'll need to worry about, so lowering sp defense isn't an issue. also, the hp evs are kinda pointless to me. if you don't want extreme speed, than you should definitely consider shadow ball. it'll definitely come in handy vs cressy/dusknoir.

yannow, this thing would make a decent starter in doubles with a No Gaurd Machamp. all that accuracy... my oh my. ^.^


Gengar is even more fragile and almost everyone runs Focus Blast on it.. I don't see why Deoxys-E is any different. Leftovers is good to negate weather damage, but Expert Belt isn't bad. Just to warn you, D-E is gonna be hard to switch in without Recover.

Rest and Explosion on Forrey is kinda funny. I say scrap Rest for Gyro Ball.. that Deoxys is everywhere, put a stop to it with Gyro Ball.

@Gofre: It didn't say it was OU in the first place. Deoxys-E is still Uber. Only on Shoddy it isn't.

Anti January 20th, 2008 8:11 AM

More discussion about D-E than my team :(

But okay, Gyro Ball over rest. I lost my mind temporarily lol. Yeah, Explosion is for dealing with that stupid blissey character, as Azelf sometimes finds itself eliminated before Blissey enters the ring.

Deoxys-E SO wants Modest though, no way I'm changing that. With such a low SAtk base, I want to buff it up lol

Yeah, rather than explain everything I'll just edit my first post...


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