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Who is Beelane LOL January 20th, 2008 9:46 PM

My first real Poketeam?! =O
 
Help and criticism is greatly appreciated.
I'm new to this whole thing, so yeah. Be gentle.

1st Gen Team..

Snorlax @ Leftovers
EVs: 232 HP/136 Def/140 SpDef
Careful Nature
Curse
Body Slam
Yawn
Return



Machamp @ Muscle Band
EVs: 240 HP/220 ATK/50 Speed
Adamant Nature
Substitute
Bulk Up
Close Combat
Cross Chop


Slowbro @ Shell Bell
EVs:212 HP/252 Def/44 SpAtk
Quiet Nature
Surf
Grass Knot
Thunderwave
Psychic


Magneton @ Leftovers
EVs:
10 Def/248 Speed/252 SpAtk
Modest Nature
Thunder
Thunder Wave
Rain Dance
Hidden Power


Exeggutor @ Petaya Berry
EVs: 212 HP/88 SpDef/124 Speed/84 SpAtk
Mild Nature
Sunny Day
Substitute
Solar Beam
Psychic


Golem @ Choice Band
EVs: 144 HP/244 ATK/ 132 Speed
Lonely Nature
Earthquake
Explosion
Flamethrower
Stone Edge

Anti January 21st, 2008 9:08 AM

Looks like an ADV team with a few DP things :0

I'll let everybody else cover the obvious imperfections, I'll cover the rest...

Golem isn't very good in OUs to be honest. Rhyperior does Cbing way better. If you really want to keep the 1st gen theme, I really suggest using even Rhydon over it.

That curselax set is really meh. In fact, I've found curselax to be meh altogether this generation. ResttalkLax can take special hits WAY better and is IMO the superior set.

Machamp is also terribly redundant with two fighting moves. Replace Close Combat with Stone Edge and No Guard as the ability. Really though, due to this team's lack of speed, Choice Scarf Machamp would be better.

For Maggy, needs Magnet Pull don't forget, and HP Fire. The thunderdancer is really meh. MAggy is mostly for trapping steels, and is great for trapping CBgross trapped on Meteor Mash. HP Fire becomes really useful for Forretress. Over Rain Dance, you'll probably want Magnet Rise.

Simply don't use sunnybeamer Eggy. TTar and Hippo are WAY too common and will wall you to death with Sand Stream.

sims796 January 21st, 2008 9:22 AM

I don't know about ADV, really, but Golem is pretty good in OU. I used to use an un-EV trained one that beat many good players here.

The thing that makes Golem stand out from Rhy is Explosion. But not with CBing.

I don't feel like rating, so someone else can handle the rest of the obvious mistakes. I'll just do Golem

Golem:Leftovers/Life Orb
Nature:Adamant/Impish
Earthquake
Stone Egde
Stealth Rock
Explosion
EV:252 ATK/148 DEF/108 HP

Anti January 21st, 2008 9:26 AM

CB Explosion is quite a BOOMing time!

Golem @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def <--Probably bad EVs lol
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Explosion
- Double-Edge

Kewl. Flamethrower...not so much.

sims796 January 21st, 2008 9:33 AM

I too, have problems with EV's.

I underestimate CB Booming.

Anti January 21st, 2008 10:40 AM

CB BOOM!ing is pretty much a guarenteed OHKO on anything that doesn't resist.

flamehaze94 January 21st, 2008 10:54 AM

I find 'BOOMING' is gay without STAB.



And why does Slowbro have Shell Bell?

sims796 January 21st, 2008 10:58 AM

Only one Pokemon (not counting Smeargle) gets Boom with STAB. That's pretty moot.

Anti January 21st, 2008 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamehaze94 (Post 3267015)
I find 'BOOMING' is gay without STAB.

Tell that to Metagross :P

Either way, I'll do the list of normal stuff now...

-2 attacks of the same type on one pokemon is usually bad and redundant.

Well, that's the only one it violates I really see lol

Weather pokemon really aren't great due to the popularity of TTar and Hippowdon.

Shiraishi January 21st, 2008 11:02 AM

Lickilicky gets 'BOOM!' with STAB. Thats the only reason I remember it.

flamehaze94 January 21st, 2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3267040)
Only one Pokemon (not counting Smeargle) gets Boom with STAB. That's pretty moot.

...
That means Explosion on everything else is gay .__.
And that would be Lickilicky. Snorlax gets STAB Selfdestruct iirc too. You've actually summed it up there.

Anti January 21st, 2008 11:08 AM

Metagross uses Explosion great with 135 base Atk...even w/o STAB, it will OHKO 95% of the metagame with a Choice Band.

sims796 January 21st, 2008 11:12 AM

That also doesn't make too much sense. Base 250 is base 250. Painful from whatever uses it. That means

Meta
Forretress
Bronzong

And others who lack a reliable healing move can go out with a big bang, taking out whomever gets hit. It almost guarentees a KO on anything that doesn't resist.

Who is Beelane LOL January 21st, 2008 1:48 PM

I just got done running this team on Pokenetbattle (with the exploding golem) and won everytime except for when I was poison-stalled by a synthesis blissey

Anti January 21st, 2008 1:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Who is Beelane LOL (Post 3267812)
I just got done running this team on Pokenetbattle (with the exploding golem) and won everytime except for when I was poison-stalled by a synthesis blissey

Please tell me you mean softboiled. Netbattle is 3rd generation though, you can't get Grass Knot and the likes on Netbattle.

Who is Beelane LOL January 21st, 2008 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3267833)
Please tell me you mean softboiled. Netbattle is 3rd generation though, you can't get Grass Knot and the likes on Netbattle.

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant.
I replaced those moves with Return.

Anti January 21st, 2008 1:58 PM

So are we supposed to rating this as a 3rd or 4th Generation team?

Who is Beelane LOL January 21st, 2008 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3267867)
So are we supposed to rating this as a 3rd or 4th Generation team?

I didn't mean for you to rate it, but instead to give me ideas on how to make it better..

Rate it however you want to.

Anti January 21st, 2008 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Who is Beelane LOL (Post 3267879)
I didn't mean for you to rate it, but instead to give me ideas on how to make it better..

Rate it however you want to.

Rating and making it better is pretty much the same thing :0

Basically, is this going to be used in the 3rd or 4th generation metagame?

Who is Beelane LOL January 21st, 2008 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3267888)
Rating and making it better is pretty much the same thing :0

Basically, is this going to be used in the 3rd or 4th generation metagame?

It's going to be used in the 3rd generation.

Anti January 21st, 2008 2:21 PM

In that case, take off grass knot and all that...since ADV is my specialty of sorts, this'll be easier lol

Well, nothing on this team can switch into CBmence safely. CBtar-any CBer really-will blow down your team (this is why Golem is for UU play.)

McGar can also mow you down pretty much effortlessly. Other SkarmBliss Killers like Boah have a similar impact on you.

Basically, this team needs stronger walling. Curselax is a good start...but wants the moveset seen in Compiled guides. Off you go. Get a physical wall to help Lax, and preferably a better bulky water than Slowbro.

Oh, here's a good resource for ADV stuff. Read up.

EDIT: the question haunts me...does that count as linking to other forums? I mean, that isn't really a forum or anything...delete it if it is though mods...thanks ^_^

Who is Beelane LOL January 21st, 2008 2:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3267949)
In that case, take off grass knot and all that...since ADV is my specialty of sorts, this'll be easier lol

Well, nothing on this team can switch into CBmence safely. CBtar-any CBer really-will blow down your team (this is why Golem is for UU play.)

McGar can also mow you down pretty much effortlessly. Other SkarmBliss Killers like Boah have a similar impact on you.

Basically, this team needs stronger walling. Curselax is a good start...but wants the moveset seen in Compiled guides. Off you go. Get a physical wall to help Lax, and preferably a better bulky water than Slowbro.

Oh, here's a good resource for ADV stuff. Read up.

EDIT: the question haunts me...does that count as linking to other forums? I mean, that isn't really a forum or anything...delete it if it is though mods...thanks ^_^

Hold on, if I start with umbreon and curse/baton switch to Aerodactyl (maxed attack and speed)
would that be good?

Anti January 21st, 2008 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Who is Beelane LOL (Post 3267964)
Hold on, if I start with umbreon and curse/baton switch to Aerodactyl (maxed attack and speed)
would that be good?

If it had a white herb...Aero
s most precious asset is its speed. Taking that away would be a DIRE mistake. If you want something really good to cursepass to, try Rhydon or Steelix.


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