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Is Phione Legendary?
Phione is considered by some to be a legendary pokemon. However these are the requirements for being classified as 'Legendary'. Pokemon may break 1 and 1 ONLY.
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NO!
I like to think of it this way: When a legendary man/woman has a child, is that child considered to be legendary? -No Manaphy is a Legendary pokemon. Thus its offspring are not. (Also this begins to question the "legendaryness" of Manaphy because most other legendaries cant breed =/) |
It depends on the man or woman, god was a bit of a lej IMO, and so was jebus :P
No but seriously, it would be if they put a 1-egg limit on it. That might've bin hard to program though, seeing as one person could get a phione then trade off his sterile manaphy. |
Yes you do make a fair point, but seeing as you can get an unlimited amount of phione out a single manaphy, i think that phione should be regarded more of as a normal pokemon. ( i believe there are less shiny bidoof out there than phiones.)
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Thats what i mean, if they had put a 1 egg per cartridge limit then it could happily reside as legendy, but that isnt the case so its normal status for phione :)
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I say No, even though you have to have a legendary to get it. It doesn't mean that it is a legendary when it hatches into Phione. I think this thread doesn't go here. |
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Gender: NO
1 per game: YES Breed: NO Evolve: YES Pokedex: YES If you look above he said Yes for evolve, not No. |
Ohhhhh sorry i misunderstood :P
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Opps. sorry, I have corrected it now.
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I never really considered it as a legendary, seeing as how it's an offshoot of Manaphy. But I wouldn't classify it as a regular Pokemon either, seeing as how it can't be caught in the wild either.
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Please give me one reason why it is NOT a legendary..
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(1) You can get an infinite amount of them from a single game , and it has average stats, nothing amazing.(also look up at my previous posts.)
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No, it is just the offspring of the legendary.
It doesnt have legendary like base stast, there is more than one. [Tbh legendary just means there is only one in pokemon so I neednt go on] |
it is since you hatch it from an egg made by manafi . since manafi is legendary phion is.
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Then why is it banned in the Battle Tower? Must be it's relation to Manaphy.
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its pretty much a different version of manaphy because if this thing isnt legendary (whitch it is ) manaphy isnt legendary ether
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I dont think phione is a legend at all. It's a weaker version of manaphy. It cant learn as good moves as manaphy can and none of its stats are impressive at all. It's a pretty mediocre pokemon.
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BTW, Phione is not a legendary IMO because from my point of view, legendaries have at least 580 base stat in total. |
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i voted yes because i think its a legendary that breaks the rules and can mother children which is a bit more realistic however i can see your point because some people consider lucario as a legendary however he can mother/father children aswell so im not really that sure....
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Stats do NOT MATTER if it's a legend or not, neither does gender, Cresselia and Heatran both have genders
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Manafy is legendary because it has this result:
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Yeah, stats don't matter, otherwise Entei wouldn't be legendary gang.
I'd say it's legendary...no reason, I just think making complex formula stuff for this is nuts. Gender means nothing, look at the [email protected] 1 a game? Does that even matter? Breeding...I don't get this either. How does breeding have to do with it being a legendary? Besides, this topic goes beyond just the games. Remember, pokemon has a manga, anime, etc. as well. Pokedex...lol wut 1 per game? Eh, more like one in existance or something. But really, I;m not feeling this either. Evolve? No legendaries evolve, neither does Phoine...eh. I don't know, I'm not feeling this whole formula deal. Also, saying it's a weaker version of Manaphy proves nothing. Again, if stats mattered, Entei would be as non-legendary as they come. What this thread is proving to me is that Nintendo has made too many legends...and pokemon for that matter. But I vote YES. |
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I personally would not consider it legendary. But really most legendaries are only proclaimed legendary by fans, so really who knows?
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We are fans. The point of the thread is to decide.
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You realize the greatest speakers of all time used repetition? Though the 1 a game thing was an accident...
You never rested any case really. Most of what I said wasn't even aimed at you, but at the formula in general. In that sense, you took it out of context. for example, you immediately assume I want Nintendo to shut down pokemon. I, for one, don't really appreciate that. Notice OTHER people were moaning about the stats, assuming this is all aimed at you is pretty bogus. And yes, Regirock would be legendary. After all, you can catch and transfer tons of any legendary pokemon from one game to another. And once again, how is this formula is any way official? the game doesn't even have a definition of legendaries, making a formula up and then declaring something legendary or not legendary proves what? |
Ok you're asking for it now.
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Who cares? It's cute, an offspring of a Legendary, not powerful, and has the same base stats of Glalie. I personally think it's a Legendary, but I'd appreciate if you didn't use phrases like "You're going to get it now" or "You're asking for it now." Threats are not cool Minos Yewman. kthanxbai
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Sorry, its late and I'm not thinking right.
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And you can catch Lapras only once is GSC, it's not a legendary. Just because I think Nintendo has made too many pokemon doesn't mean I want them to shut things down, my point stands. And it's YOUR formula, YOUR opinion. If I disagree with it, don't go "well teh are ask1ng for it nowz0rz!!!" And I think Loquacity's post just kind of ended the argument anyways... |
I said I'm sorry!!! I realise that I have been wrong in certain situations. I also realise that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I simply want to find out what other people think.
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okey if you think manaphy is not legendary then you dont think phion is since manaphy is legendary phion is. but people have different opinions about it.
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ok i am pretty sure that phione IS legendary. my point is that you need a ranger event to get Manaphy and u need him to get phione so thearetically you need an event to get phione, ummmmmmm, does anyone get my point?
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I disagree with many here...
Phione in my eyes is a legendary Pokemon, yes stats are below mediorce, you can get it countless times...but that doesn't deture it's label from gamefreak as 'legendary'. Though those are fine ways to label a legend. As many of the uber tier, are legendary. Though think about it, Manaphy IS legendary, even in the Pokemon dot com mailbag they confirm that, along with rotom not being legendary, anyways...manaphy is legendary so how can it's offspring not be, for your information, YOU look like your parents, have traits of them and probably are in some cass exactly like them in ways... Phione doesn't have that power, that folk lore story...yet its parent, is legendary, picture this. Manaphy in the sea to it's legendary palace "home". phione is with it, and say we lived in a Pokemon world for a minute. Say you cuaght a phione, as a fisher when are you just going to go "meh, it's a phione". (like a magikarp) no! your going to be excited that you got a phione that would be rare in the pokemon world and comes from a legend. Remember folks, we ARE in a pokemon world, we're in the game... I think all this "oh its stats are low" is a bunch of you know. In the perpective of you playing a video game your looking at it wrong. Take the perpective of it in the world. You think you'll see a bagillion phione in the sea, No. Phione to me, is classified as a legend to it's rarity IN WORLD perpective. I believe if the parent is legend, so is the child, as the child CAME from the parent, thus being it's status. Phione is depicted as an angel in the sea, are angels to you common and normal like everyone else? I dont think so... In the battle real world perpective, phione is banned from the sinnoh battle tower, hmmmm....think of that? But alas, just my opinion...great discussion, thank you for making this thread. I enjoyed it. So you know, we could create an in-between zone, over normal under 'perfect' legendary, idk just a thought.... |
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I understand that it's your opinion, I just wanted to point some stuff out. No offense to you, of course. |
nah, i don't count phione as anything even remotely legendary.
i count it as a normal pokemon, i mean, sure you can't catch it in the wild, but you can't do that with riolu's, either, or starters. or a ot of the pre-evolved and evolved forms of older pokemon (like bonsly and magmortar) but i have to stop rambilng. phione doesn't qualify as legendary to me, end of chain. Now, I'm off To Break into The Elder Scrolls Library. |
IMO, Unown, Rotom, and Phione are "Semi-Legendary"
-Unown is obviously not a normal Pokemon, they mabye should even have its own classification. It's Genderless, Cannot Breed nor Evolve, Are exclusive to ancient ruins where no other species can be found, and have mysterious connections to Suicune and Ho-oh (NOT ENTEI. Anime =/= Cannon) -Rotom has no gender and cannot evolve, but can breed with ditto. If it wasn't a Semi-Legendary, it wouls be the only non-sinnoh dex 4th gen Pokemon that was neither a new Evolution nor a Legendery. Not to mention the same song for the likes of Heatran, Regigigas, Girantina, ect. is played. -Phione can only be originally obtained by breeding Manaphy, a Legendary. It has no gender and cannot evolve, but, like Rotom, can breed. These three aren't truley Legendary, but they certainly aren't your average Pokemon. |
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-- Genderless -- Only one -- Unbreedable -- Does not evolve, has no preevolution -- #479 is pretty far down the line, sir. Rotom is hell not Legendary, sorry. Edit: Whoops, didn't see second page, sorry about that. For the sake of being more on topic, here's another example: Metagross -- Genderless -- Only one (well, not in D/P) -- Unbreedable -- Evolves from Metang -- Within the last ten of Hoenndex Using your definition of Legendary, this means that some Pokemon which were "legendary" previously became non-legendary, since something in that species changes, such as how you could only catch two Snorlaxes per game, but now you can catch unlimited Munchlaxes and evolve them. I don't think you can put a solid definition on "Legendary". |
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Of the three I mentioned, Unown has the most legendary qualities. |
Metagross can breed with ditto. I have a Beldum I bred from my Metagross that I am EV training in attack (I don't use EVs much but at the thought of an overpowered Metagross I gave in.)
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I said until Emerald because that was the ONLY R/S/E game (not counting the Gen I remakes) to have Ditto being a catchable character. usually people don't attempt to trade with other games unless it is their version's counterpart, and since the National Dex was only created when FR/LG came out (In-game I mean, since, technically, the National Dex was first used in guidebooks from Gen II, but you didn't acquire it in-game until FR/LG.). I think that was what Gymnotide was making his point about in his statement of Metagross being unbreedable, since although it is technically breedable, it was virtually impossible to acquire a ditto before Emerald that it seemed as though it was unbreedable. |
I guess it's not legendarie, but just because you can get many Phiones on the game.
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Hey, its currently NOT LEGENDARY by 2 votes (so close).
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well, you know what? i think phione is a legendary pokemon. If you look in your freaking pokedex, you'll see that all the pokemon near manaphy are legendaries. and phione cant evolve or breed. so, yes, it is a legendary.
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It has been put near Manaphy because you breed to get it. This is the case with all pokemon except for the GSC pre-eveolutions.
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Of course Phione is a legendary type! =O
Just because he's small, he's prince of the sea. That should immediately make him a legendary type. END OF DISCUSSION! XD |
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hell yeah!1111111111111111
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It is a legendary. You have your test results wrong.
Here is how it should be! * Gender: NO * 1 per game: NO * Breed: NO * Evolve: NO * Pokedex: YES Yes, it comes from an egg, but Phione cannot breed, manaphy can. This way, Phione only has one legendary fault. And that is you can get more than one per game. Sooo.. my test results say Phinoe can be a legendary. UNLESS when you write breed you mean hatch from egg. If that is the case you should state that. Thankyou XD (I is scientifical!) |
I think it is, one reason being Pokemon.com confirmed it (which has probably already been mentioned).
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I think Phione, nor Manaphy are legendary. Manaphy breaks the breeding rule also. I do not think Latias and Latos are legendary either because in Emerald/Ruby/Sapphire the descriptions says that they are seen in herds.
Just MHO. |
I don't mean legendary in the broad sense of the word I mean it in the game sense. I am pretty sure you can breed Phione to get more Phione but as I dont have any 4th gen games I can't be sure.
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Phione is an one-off Pokemon that's the uh...
Well Kyogre is King of the Sea, Manaphy is Prince... What does that make Phione? Princess of the Sea? Normally most legends can be related to some sort of mythology in the games. Latios and Latias were one of the few that could breed. The legendary birds and the Regis are plentiful... Hm, there's a lot of rules in the games and anime that conflict each other. I'm just gonna call it a legend as it's an one-off Pokemon probably in D/P mythology somewhere (and Nintendo confirmed it). Edit: You CANNOT breed Phione to make more. It's a genderless that can't breed with Ditto. Phione is a pre-evolved form of Manaphy (which is a basic form Pokemon), so Game Freak made it that you can't breed Phione. However you can breed Manaphy with Ditto to get several Phiones. |
Just to clear everything up, in the nintendo power ultimute pokedex for D/P in the breeding section it says this:
MANAPHY AND PHIONE Something special happens when you breed a Manaphy (the only legendary pokemon you can breed). You get an Egg for the baby pokemon Phione. Phione can breed, but it will never evolve into Manaphy. I hope that clears everything up. |
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Phione a legendary? I think so.
Phione strong? I think not. Just remember, Legendary or not, the term "Legendary" has no effect on how strong a Pokemon is. Legendary is not a tier in competetive. So I'd say it is very much a legendary Pokemon, but by no means is it strong. |
In my opinion, phione should be a psuedo-legendary pokemon like dragonite,salamence,garchomp and metagross.
Its not exactly a legend in batlling by my standards(or even a real legendary),but definitely not an ordinary pokemon.Psuedo-legends arent legends but have the power to act like a 'legendary' and so can Phione, given the right EV's Iv's and nature it can prove its power just as well as manaphy.(Trust me because i own one) I have this opinion also with rotom.(did you know rotom is motor spelt backwards) In conclusion,this is my opinion of what manaphy should be. |
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I don't consider Phione legendary. There's kinda two ways I look at a Pokemon to determine whether it's "legendary" or not. On one hand, there's how they fit into the games. Sorta like that list of legendary criteria. On the other, there's how they fit into the plot and lore of the world. A Pokemon wouldn't really be "legendary" if there were no legends about it, right? Of course, this does exclude a few Pokemon widely accepted as legendaries, most notably Mewtwo and Deoxys. I myself think of those two as being... technically not really legendary, but for the purpose of simplicity and for how they're placed into the games they work as legendaries. Phione wouldn't be legendary because it's not really passing from either a game-based or plot-based perspective. Phione hatches from an egg. You can get multiple Phiones in one game. There don't seem to be many myths or relevant legends about it, either. If the bits of lore surrounding Phione make it legendary, then Pokemon like Arcanine and Ninetales would probably have to be legendary as well. |
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