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Minos Yewman January 21st, 2008 11:12 AM

Is Phione Legendary?
 
Phione is considered by some to be a legendary pokemon. However these are the requirements for being classified as 'Legendary'. Pokemon may break 1 and 1 ONLY.
  • Pokemon cannot have a Gender
  • You must only be able to get one of the Pokemon wild per game
  • The Pokemon must not be able to breed
  • Pokemon must not evolve from or into another Pokemon
  • The Pokemon must be near the end of the Pokedex for that generation
When Phione is run through this test then it has this result:
  • Gender: NO
  • 1 per game: NO
  • Breed: YES
  • Evolve: NO
  • Pokedex: YES
As you see Phione does not qualify for Legendary status. While we are here I will run Archanine through just to prove to those people who believe it is Legendary that it is not:
  • Gender: YES
  • 1 per game: NO
  • Breed: YES
  • Evolve: YES
  • Pokedex: NO
All blanks, sorry those few of you, but he is not Legendary. I will run Mewtwo through as an example of a real Legendary:
  • Gender: NO
  • 1 per game: YES
  • Breed: NO
  • Evolve: NO
  • Pokedex: YES

Darkgale January 21st, 2008 12:48 PM

NO!

I like to think of it this way:

When a legendary man/woman has a child, is that child considered to be legendary?
-No
Manaphy is a Legendary pokemon. Thus its offspring are not.

(Also this begins to question the "legendaryness" of Manaphy because most other legendaries cant breed =/)

El Gofre January 21st, 2008 12:51 PM

It depends on the man or woman, god was a bit of a lej IMO, and so was jebus :P

No but seriously, it would be if they put a 1-egg limit on it. That might've bin hard to program though, seeing as one person could get a phione then trade off his sterile manaphy.

Darkgale January 21st, 2008 12:57 PM

Yes you do make a fair point, but seeing as you can get an unlimited amount of phione out a single manaphy, i think that phione should be regarded more of as a normal pokemon. ( i believe there are less shiny bidoof out there than phiones.)

El Gofre January 21st, 2008 12:58 PM

Thats what i mean, if they had put a 1 egg per cartridge limit then it could happily reside as legendy, but that isnt the case so its normal status for phione :)

Drakorn January 21st, 2008 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minos Yewman (Post 3267112)
Phione is considered by some to be a legendary pokemon. However these are the requirements for being classified as 'Legendary'. Pokemon may break 1 and 1 ONLY.
  • Pokemon cannot have a Gender
  • You must only be able to get one of the Pokemon wild per game
  • The Pokemon must not be able to breed
  • Pokemon must not evolve from or into another Pokemon
  • The Pokemon must be near the end of the Pokedex for that generation
:

All blanks, sorry those few of you, but he is not Legendary. I will run Mewtwo through as an example of a real Legendary
  • Gender: NO
  • 1 per game: YES
  • Breed: NO
  • Evolve: YES
  • Pokedex: YES

Mewtwo doesn't evolve or have an evolve in that matter.

I say No, even though you have to have a legendary to get it. It doesn't mean that it is a legendary when it hatches into Phione.

I think this thread doesn't go here.

El Gofre January 21st, 2008 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakorn (Post 3267697)
Mewtwo doesn't evolve or have an evolve in that matter.

Erm, no-one ever said he did. Mewtwo obviously isnt a legend he was made in a lab.

Drakorn January 21st, 2008 1:23 PM

Gender: NO
1 per game: YES
Breed: NO
Evolve: YES
Pokedex: YES

If you look above he said Yes for evolve, not No.

El Gofre January 21st, 2008 1:25 PM

Ohhhhh sorry i misunderstood :P

Minos Yewman January 22nd, 2008 9:16 AM

Opps. sorry, I have corrected it now.

Aegis January 22nd, 2008 1:12 PM

I never really considered it as a legendary, seeing as how it's an offshoot of Manaphy. But I wouldn't classify it as a regular Pokemon either, seeing as how it can't be caught in the wild either.

Faceless* January 22nd, 2008 1:13 PM

Please give me one reason why it is NOT a legendary..

Darkgale January 22nd, 2008 1:17 PM

(1) You can get an infinite amount of them from a single game , and it has average stats, nothing amazing.(also look up at my previous posts.)

Eruption January 22nd, 2008 1:30 PM

No, it is just the offspring of the legendary.

It doesnt have legendary like base stast, there is more than one. [Tbh legendary just means there is only one in pokemon so I neednt go on]

Arrmegedden January 22nd, 2008 4:37 PM

it is since you hatch it from an egg made by manafi . since manafi is legendary phion is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakorn (Post 3267707)
Gender: NO
1 per game: YES
Breed: NO
Evolve: YES
Pokedex: YES

If you look above he said Yes for evolve, not No.

phione doesnt evolve into manaphi or anything else

RSL January 22nd, 2008 5:25 PM

Then why is it banned in the Battle Tower? Must be it's relation to Manaphy.

Arrmegedden January 22nd, 2008 5:30 PM

its pretty much a different version of manaphy because if this thing isnt legendary (whitch it is ) manaphy isnt legendary ether

kabigon January 22nd, 2008 6:49 PM

I dont think phione is a legend at all. It's a weaker version of manaphy. It cant learn as good moves as manaphy can and none of its stats are impressive at all. It's a pretty mediocre pokemon.

smile! January 23rd, 2008 8:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minos Yewman (Post 3267112)
Phione is considered by some to be a legendary pokemon. However these are the requirements for being classified as 'Legendary'. Pokemon may break 1 and 1 ONLY.
  • Pokemon cannot have a Gender
  • You must only be able to get one of the Pokemon wild per game
  • The Pokemon must not be able to breed
  • Pokemon must not evolve from or into another Pokemon
  • The Pokemon must be near the end of the Pokedex for that generation

Dragonite isn't a legendary, but it surpassed the trio birds in the RBY/FRLG Pokedex.
BTW, Phione is not a legendary IMO because from my point of view, legendaries have at least 580 base stat in total.

Aegis January 23rd, 2008 8:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smile! (Post 3272539)
Dragonite isn't a legendary, but it surpassed the trio birds in the RBY/FRLG Pokedex.
BTW, Phione is not a legendary IMO because from my point of view, legendaries have at least 580 base stat in total.

But, Dragonite does have gender, is an evolved form of another Pokemon, can breed, and you can get more of it in the game. But, I do agree with what you were getting at, being at the end of the poke-dex isn't really a good way to qualify for a legendary. If it was, Porygon would come awful close to being a legendary.

lostprophetsown January 23rd, 2008 10:27 AM

i voted yes because i think its a legendary that breaks the rules and can mother children which is a bit more realistic however i can see your point because some people consider lucario as a legendary however he can mother/father children aswell so im not really that sure....

Faceless* January 23rd, 2008 12:56 PM

Stats do NOT MATTER if it's a legend or not, neither does gender, Cresselia and Heatran both have genders

Minos Yewman January 23rd, 2008 1:34 PM

Manafy is legendary because it has this result:
  • Gender: NO
  • 1 per game: YES
  • Breed: YES
  • Evolve: NO
  • Pokedex: YES
It also is true that while stats do not have anything to do with being legendary, it does affect if it is an uber or not. Manafy is uber and Phione is not. However, this is just for interest as neither are any of the pokemon enterable for battle towever with the exception of Latias and Latios.

Anti January 23rd, 2008 1:45 PM

Yeah, stats don't matter, otherwise Entei wouldn't be legendary gang.

I'd say it's legendary...no reason, I just think making complex formula stuff for this is nuts.

Gender means nothing, look at the [email protected] 1 a game? Does that even matter?

Breeding...I don't get this either. How does breeding have to do with it being a legendary? Besides, this topic goes beyond just the games. Remember, pokemon has a manga, anime, etc. as well.

Pokedex...lol wut

1 per game? Eh, more like one in existance or something. But really, I;m not feeling this either.

Evolve? No legendaries evolve, neither does Phoine...eh.


I don't know, I'm not feeling this whole formula deal.

Also, saying it's a weaker version of Manaphy proves nothing. Again, if stats mattered, Entei would be as non-legendary as they come.

What this thread is proving to me is that Nintendo has made too many legends...and pokemon for that matter.

But I vote YES.

Minos Yewman January 23rd, 2008 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3273176)
Yeah, stats don't matter, otherwise Entei wouldn't be legendary gang.

I'd say it's legendary...no reason, I just think making complex formula stuff for this is nuts.
I based the 'formula' on the general aspects shared by most legendary pokemon.

Gender means nothing, look at the [email protected] 1 a game? Does that even matter?
Well, would you consider Regirock to be legendary if it had a gender and could be caught numerous times in the wild

Breeding...I don't get this either. How does breeding have to do with it being a legendary? Besides, this topic goes beyond just the games. Remember, pokemon has a manga, anime, etc. as well.
This thread is mainly based on the game definition of legendary. There is another thread for if pokemon are legendary in the philosophical sense

Pokedex...lol wut
I decided to put that in as an afterthought. As most Legendaries are near the end this helps cancel out some other candidates. If you really have a problem with it then just ignore it.

1 per game? Eh, more like one in existance or something. But really, I;m not feeling this either.
You do realise you already made this point.

Evolve? No legendaries evolve, neither does Phoine...eh.
I never said it did.


I don't know, I'm not feeling this whole formula deal.
You are repeating yourself again.

Also, saying it's a weaker version of Manaphy proves nothing. Again, if stats mattered, Entei would be as non-legendary as they come.
I said stats DID NOT matter.

What this thread is proving to me is that Nintendo has made too many legends...and pokemon for that matter.
So you would just stop making games in one of the most popular franchises in the world would you.

But I vote YES.

I rest my case. Phione is not legendary. But you are welcome to have your own views on the matter.


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