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Mikefox124 January 26th, 2008 8:03 PM

The Rule Book and the S.S Ticket? Let's speculate a little.
 
So after looking around in Pokesav and other programs, I see these two particular items: The Rule Book, and The S.S Ticket.

I can tell: The S.S Ticket is from the Kanto league, but in RBGY, we don't know where it goes, so where does it go? And why is it in the Diamond and Pearl coding? I don't know if it's in Hoenn or not, but it may be in the 2nd generation. Was Nintendo planning to let the player go to the Kanto Region, and possibly it's next door neighbor, the Johto Region?

There is a code where you can access the S.S Ticket via Action Replay, but there is also Pokesav, where I found it on the list.

Now the Rule Book: I don't know what it's for. Maybe an event? Maybe for a tourney? I don't know.

There is also the Old Charm. I don't know... (EDIT: Nevermind, Cynthia gives it to you. )

I'll use this thread to discuss these two items, and any other weird items in the game, discuss it here.

ClassicRockFan January 26th, 2008 8:06 PM

I saw the rule book once when the GTS had a glitch on me. (I put up a Jirachi and when I looked at the summary, it showed a Dodrio holding a Rule Book. When I tried to take it back, it became a Jirachi again.) I heard that they are just Glitch items, but I am not too sure about that

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 26th, 2008 8:09 PM

oooh, are you saying you cn actually obtain these items or they are just in the coding like tje ??? arceus, is there a way to use AR to get the arceus form

Shiny Umbreon January 26th, 2008 8:10 PM

Let's see, I think I read somewhere the rule book was meant to be a guide to Wi-Fi. Probably they thought it was a pointless idea. >_>

And the ticket. Well, you can hack it but it activates no events. They just left it. Who knows what they were thinking? Maybe Darkrai didn't always need a Hotel Pass. But I don't know why it references the Kanto cruise.

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 26th, 2008 8:12 PM

So u actually can get the S.S ticket. Cool, i will search for a code when i replace my AR friday

Mikefox124 January 26th, 2008 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon (Post 3283109)
Let's see, I think I read somewhere the rule book was meant to be a guide to Wi-Fi. Probably they thought it was a pointless idea. >_>

And the ticket. Well, you can hack it but it activates no events. They just left it. Who knows what they were thinking? Maybe Darkrai didn't always need a Hotel Pass. But I don't know why it references the Kanto cruise.

That does seem useless.

Yeah, but this might be something they were planning in the games, like to go back to Kanto/Johto. But we don't know if a third game is coming or not, so it might be used there. Who knows where the S.S. Anne went in the game? In the anime, it blew up...

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 26th, 2008 8:20 PM

This excites me, i hope we can travel to all three other regions in the third input

Shiny Umbreon January 26th, 2008 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaluigiRedclaw91 (Post 3283143)
This excites me, i hope we can travel to all three other regions in the third input

I don't think they'll do a change so big in the plot for the third game.

Anyway, I'm still thinking about the S.S. Anne. You're right. They may have planned the player to travel to Kanto or Johto, or at least part of it, somewhere during development.

Ooka January 26th, 2008 8:47 PM

Like you guys are speculating, Nintendo does that a lot. i.e. Old Sea Chart, Missing no., Celebi. So they're probably just items Nintendo was going to use, and decided not to.

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 26th, 2008 10:26 PM

What is the old sea chart and what does celebi have to do with anything we are talking about

Myoko-chan January 27th, 2008 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaluigiRedclaw91 (Post 3283605)
What is the old sea chart and what does celebi have to do with anything we are talking about

Old Sea Chart as in the ticket to get Mew, which was never released in NA
And Celebi, meaning as the Celebi overworld sprite found inside FR/LG.


He means that Nintendo like leaving planned things out, as in those examples.

@Ooka: I don't think missingno was "supposed" to be in the game.
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Ohohohmemememe! I have a theory.

In one of the TV commercials(in the game) it says something about a ship called the S.S. Sinnoh. Maybe thats what it was originally for?

EDIT: I used my webcam to take a picture of it, though it's blurry, you can still make out the words.
"High-speed ferry S.S. Sinnoh.
Bon voyage to safety!"

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/50/picture22kb5.jpg


Also, in PokeSAV, I see a Key Item called "Red Chain". What about that?

Amadeus Windfall January 27th, 2008 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 3283945)
Ohohohmemememe! I have a theory.

In one of the TV commercials(in the game) it says something about a ship called the S.S. Sinnoh. Maybe thats what it was originally for?

EDIT: I used my webcam to take a picture of it, though it's blurry, you can still make out the words.
"High-speed ferry S.S. Sinnoh.
Bon voyage to safety!"

That could be Sailor Eldritch's boat (that's the name of the sailor in Canalave City, right?), or the one from Snowpoint City to the Fight Area.

Quote:

Also, in PokeSAV, I see a Key Item called "Red Chain". What about that?
I suppose at one point, they planned for you to get the Red Chain that Cyrus made to bring out Dialga/Palkia. Can't imagine what you'd use it for, but I always thought it seemed odd you didn't get it.

demonmike January 27th, 2008 6:08 AM

The SS Ticket may be further evidence of a GS remake for the DS. The one big piece of evidence currently pointing to a remake is the fact theres Johto data in the Pokemon Details (Obtained where and when etc), when there is no possible link to Johto. Seeing as wasnt it the SS Ticket that initially took players to Kanto in Gold and Silver?

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 27th, 2008 8:11 AM

Hmmm, i dought that the boats already in game are the S.S, usually in pokemn games yo can go inside and battle other trainers and explore.

Myoko-chan January 27th, 2008 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amadeus Windfall (Post 3283982)
That could be Sailor Eldritch's boat (that's the name of the sailor in Canalave City, right?), or the one from Snowpoint City to the Fight Area.

Most unlikely, all the S.S. Ships so far in each game have been pretty big. And if it was, Im sure those 2 sailors would call their ship the S.S. Sinnoh in game.

Kim Do-yeon January 27th, 2008 5:44 PM

I was wondering about something The SS Ticket could be a clue towards a third installment because I have noticed on the Sinnoh Map there is two Unknown Islands so could The SS Sinnoh be going there in the future and you might encounter a brand new Battle Zone or Mystery Location.

Here is the Islands in question:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7962/uidpcg7.jpg

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 27th, 2008 5:46 PM

Those islands are where newmoon and fullmoon islands are

Kim Do-yeon January 27th, 2008 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaluigiRedclaw91 (Post 3286411)
Those islands are where newmoon and fullmoon islands are

No there not because if you look at the Town Map in the game there further up and more to the left and also these islands show up on the map also.

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 27th, 2008 5:50 PM

Oh, then maybe you are on to something. I have no clue what it wold be then

Myoko-chan January 27th, 2008 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Poison (Post 3286402)
I was wondering about something The SS Ticket could be a clue towards a third installment because I have noticed on the Sinnoh Map there is two Unknown Islands so could The SS Sinnoh be going there in the future and you might encounter a brand new Battle Zone or Mystery Location.

Here is the Islands in question:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7962/uidpcg7.jpg

Nah, Nintendo likes adding those little details to their map alot. Take a look at the circles in this Hoenn map, for example.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3605/worldmapei9.png

WaluigiRedclaw91 January 27th, 2008 7:46 PM

Yeah i was gonna point that out but lets have hope

Kim Do-yeon January 27th, 2008 8:37 PM

Just done a Little Action Replaying and got the Items and the descriptions.

Rule Book: "It lists the rules for holding battles. For linked battles, you may choose which set of rules you wish to use".

S.S. Ticket: "The ticket required for sailing on the ferry S.S. Anne. It has a drawing of a ship on it".

So for the Rule Book it is just a plain Battle Rule Book and the S.S. Ticket *wink wink* a nod to an upcoming Gold and Silver remake.

Myoko-chan January 27th, 2008 9:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Poison (Post 3286802)
Just done a Little Action Replaying and got the Items and the descriptions.

Rule Book: "It lists the rules for holding battles. For linked battles, you may choose which set of rules you wish to use".

S.S. Ticket: "The ticket required for sailing on the ferry S.S. Anne. It has a drawing of a ship on it".

So for the Rule Book it is just a plain Battle Rule Book and the S.S. Ticket *wink wink* a nod to an upcoming Gold and Silver remake.

The S.S. Ticket description is exactly the same as the one in FR/LG, so I have a good guess that this was not the intentional description.

demonmike January 28th, 2008 8:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myoko-chan (Post 3286846)
The S.S. Ticket description is exactly the same as the one in FR/LG, so I have a good guess that this was not the intentional description.

Ah really?

One possibility is that its a safety measure just INCASE theres an undiscovered glitch in any previous games where you can make Pokemon hold unholdable items, because it'd make the game severly glitchy if an item got imported that did not exist.

I'm having a cruise through PokeSav now to see which items exist in Diamond and Pearl that are only supposed to exist in previous games

EDIT: PokeSav turns up nothing, the SS Ticket may of been implanted into the games coding as an early start for a Gold and Silver remake, just to get one item done out the way, or who knows, seeing as the trend Gold and Silver set was very popular (having TWO regions), maybe they planned on having the SS Anne make its way to Sinnoh to take players to Johto perhaps?

Ooka January 28th, 2008 2:07 PM

Or it could just be that Nintendo was in too much of a hurry to finish the event.


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