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PsyDragon Trainer February 1st, 2008 10:53 AM

RMT (How original.. lol)
 
Okay.. I don't like to show my team, but meh, let's get it rated, I don't battle that much anyways..

#1: Breloom. Aka: Muhammed A.

http://i29.tinypic.com/19oz2u.png

Evs: 252 Atk / 192 Spd / 64 HP
Nature: Jolly (I know, Adamant might've been smarter..)
Trait: Poison Heal
Item: Toxic Orb
Moveset:
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Spore
Notes: This guy did a great job in my team, so now I'm trying him as my starter, we'll see how it works. Besides being my starter, it's my annoyer and status absorber.


#2: Swampert. Aka: Crusher.


http://i31.tinypic.com/2e3sxso.png

Evs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 Sp.Atk
Nature: Relaxed
Trait: Torrent
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Earthquake
- ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
Notes: Great Physical Wall and Phazer. Period. Also sets up Stealth Rock.


#3: Gardevoir. Aka: Voir.


http://i28.tinypic.com/oe0p3.png

Evs: 252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Nature: Modest
Trait: Trace
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Psychic
- Wish
- Protect
- Focus Blast / Thunderbolt / HP [Fire]
Notes: I used to run it differently, but thanks to a moveset I saw from Dark_Azelf, I turned mine to a WishPasser, let's hope it works. Also a quite good SpecialSponge.


#4: Salamence. Aka: Inazuma.


http://i30.tinypic.com/13ymlnm.png

Evs: 120 HP / 136 speed / 252 Att
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Intimidate
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Substitute
Notes: This.Is.A.Beast. I created it myself, and it does SUCH a good job, it's my pride and joy, just like my other 'Mence, AiRes. Still, I'm not sure if to use this one or my CBer. Also.. Do NOT whine about this set not being good, I have experience with it, you probably not..


#5: Metagross. Aka: X-Factor.


http://i30.tinypic.com/dvsjkn.png

Evs: 252 Atk + Spd / 4 HP.
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Clear Body
Item: Choice Scarf
Moveset:
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion
Notes: Credits to Anti-Pop Culture Warrior14 (IIRC that's the name :P) for the set. I love it and it works. (Revenge Killer at the Max)

#6: Starmie. Aka: Lunarstar.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2cdz5up.png

Evs: 120 Sp.Atk / 220 (or a bit more) Spd / 168 HP
Nature: Timid
Trait: Natural Cure
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Surf
- ThunderBolt
- Recover
- Rapid Spin
Notes: My Shiny :). It has good IVs and I need a Rapid Spinner I guess..

Hmm, I just pulled some Pokés of mine together, and I got this.. For my feeling it's good balanced and stuff, and no big weaknesses, right?

Dark Azelf February 1st, 2008 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsyDragon Trainer (Post 3297086)

#1: Breloom. Aka: Muhammed A.

http://i29.tinypic.com/19oz2u.png

Evs: 44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
Nature: Adamant Nature
Trait: Poison Heal
Item: Toxic Orb
Moveset:
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Spore


Yeah this really wants Adamant, Jolly doesnt do much, make it Adamant and give it 212 evs. This spread allows for optimal recovery from Poison Heal and ensures he is faster than Adamant Tyranitar, thus avoiding the occasional Ice Beam or Fire Blast. You're also a few Speed points ahead of minimum Speed Gliscor.



#2: Swampert. Aka: Crusher.


http://i31.tinypic.com/2e3sxso.png

Evs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 Sp.Atk
Nature: Relaxed
Trait: Torrent
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Earthquake
- ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
- Roar

ice Beam >>> Avalance. ice Beam guarantees a ohko on dragons, unlike Avalance, when you get intimidated. Sort out your evs aswell, make it more defensive, it doesnt need much attack at all.




#3: Gardevoir. Aka: Voir.


http://i28.tinypic.com/oe0p3.png

Evs: 252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Nature: Modest
Trait: Trace
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Psychic
- Wish
- Light Screen / Reflect / Will-o-wisp
- Focus Blast / Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball

Its not very good at setting up screens from personal experience, but meh, its up to you, i like will-o-wisp better, burning stuff like weavile and t-tar is funny when it thinks it can come in on you =p

You can run shadow ball in that last slot aswell, although it depends on what you want to hit.






#4: Salamence. Aka: Inazuma.


http://i30.tinypic.com/13ymlnm.png

Evs: 120 HP / 136 speed / 252 Att
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Intimidate
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Substitute

Overkill on speed much lol ? You have sub to DD behind, Sally REALLY needs the attack.



#5: Metagross. Aka: X-Factor.


http://i30.tinypic.com/dvsjkn.png

Evs: 252 Atk + Spd / 4 HP.
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Clear Body
Item: Choice Scarf
Moveset:
- Pursuit / Thunderpunch
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

Celebi and skarmory remember this lol.

Anti - Pop likes T-Punch on this aswell it helps with bulky waters.


#6: Starmie. Aka: Lunarstar.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2cdz5up.png

Evs: 120 Sp.Atk / 220 (or a bit more) Spd / 168 HP
Nature: Timid
Trait: Natural Cure
Item: Leftovers
Moveset:
- Surf
- ThunderBolt
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Rapid Spin, last slot or spikes and crap will wreck you.

Make this Bulky to beat Gyarados, infernape and stuff. Swampy is your dragon killer, so let this take out ape and Gyarados



Changes and suggestions are in bold.

I highly suggest you be careful of pursuiters coming in on Gardevoir and Starmie, if your wish support goes and your spinning and anti Gyarados goes in starmie, your gonna get problems.

PsyDragon Trainer February 2nd, 2008 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3297886)
Changes and suggestions are in bold.

I highly suggest you be careful of pursuiters coming in on Gardevoir and Starmie, if your wish support goes and your spinning and anti Gyarados goes in starmie, your gonna get problems.

Thanks! I'll change some of them, and you have an obvious point with Salamence and Starmie. I'll grab my Emerald and change the ones who are on them :). Perhaps this'll do better. Also, my Gardevoir has HP Fire 64, any good? Oh, and I can't get Will-O-Wisp because I don't want to re-breed her..

Anti February 2nd, 2008 11:39 AM

For Metagross, Pursuit is absolutely necessary for revenge killing while Thunderpunch will make it better at hitting more stuff. Really, it works best with a powerful choice bander that can weaken stuff so you can finish things off.

Also, don't be afraid to BOOM on Hippowdon or whatever to clear the way for Mence, who without a physical wall to stop it will late-ganme sweep lots of stuff.

Thunderpunch really does have lackluster power without a Choice Band though, so I can honestly say I'd use Pursuit over it. It's just too much fun. Don't overestimate it though, as bulky psychics and ghosts that don't switch out don't really mind pursuit. Be careful.

As for Salamence, I really don't recommend Fire blast when you have plenty of support to wipe out steels anyways. Earthquake would be better in all honesty. I do like Sub a lot on that though.

This team suffers from not having tremendous walling. Gardy really isn't a great special wall, especially when the most common special attacker you'll find tears it to shreds (Gengar). Also, strong pursuit users can obliterate Gardy and Starmie. Gyarados can take you down if Starmie gets a taste of Weavile, which could be a lot of trouble.

I'd replace Breloom or Salamence for a defensive pokemon, otherwise quite a few sweepers will have their way with you.

Jimmyray February 2nd, 2008 1:15 PM

Whenever I run Mixed Sweepers, I never use Modest or Adamant natures, so I'd recommend Hasty, Naughty or Lonely on your 'mence. TBolt over all else on Gardevoir for Sweeping purposes, and Reflect/Will-o-wisp over Light Screen because it could do with the extra defense to prevet being OHKO'd by Night Slash, Pursuit and what not. You should definately put Ice Beam on that Starmie as well instead of Recover.

Dark Azelf February 2nd, 2008 1:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 3300301)
Whenever I run Mixed Sweepers, I never use Modest or Adamant natures, so I'd recommend Hasty, Naughty or Lonely on your 'mence. TBolt over all else on Gardevoir for Sweeping purposes, and Reflect/Will-o-wisp over Light Screen because it could do with the extra defense to prevet being OHKO'd by Night Slash, Pursuit and what not. You should definately put Ice Beam on that Starmie as well instead of Recover.

Errrmm, why would he want Ice Beam, he has Swampert as a dragon counter, so is not needed on starmie. Recover lets it rapid spin continuously.


Lonely, Naughty are redundant, ive said this before and ill say it again, Fire Blast is still a 2hko on Skarmory and a ohko on forry with Adamant Nature, so lonely does nothing but cut its defenses.

PsyDragon Trainer February 3rd, 2008 1:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3300355)
Errrmm, why would he want Ice Beam, he has Swampert as a dragon counter, so is not needed on starmie. Recover lets it rapid spin continuously.


Lonely, Naughty are redundant, ive said this before and ill say it again, Fire Blast is still a 2hko on Skarmory and a ohko on forry with Adamant Nature, so lonely does nothing but cut its defenses.

Even Flamethrower 2HKOs Skarmory, so I might go for FF for the accuracy..

Anyways, Anti had a very good point, what you you guys recommend for Wall except Blissey / Skarmory / Bronzong since I hate the cheap bastard.. Also, when I get the evolution Item of Dusclops, I can get a Dusknoir because I already have the Dusclops ready. And I have a Magnezone ready, and Vaporeons (which I'm re-breeding atm).

Dark Azelf February 3rd, 2008 4:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsyDragon Trainer (Post 3301934)
Even Flamethrower 2HKOs Skarmory, so I might go for FF for the accuracy..

Anyways, Anti had a very good point, what you you guys recommend for Wall except Blissey / Skarmory / Bronzong since I hate the cheap bastard.. Also, when I get the evolution Item of Dusclops, I can get a Dusknoir because I already have the Dusclops ready. And I have a Magnezone ready, and Vaporeons (which I'm re-breeding atm).


LOL Blissey's not cheap, its the best sp.wall in the game. Skarmory and Bronzong are awesome aswell =[

Yeah, Dusknoir, Gliscor, Hippowdon, Cresselia, Spiritomb, Forretress , Tangrowth,Weezing, Donphan, Suicune, Drapion, Slowbro etc.

Anti- metagame Registeel is meant to be beastly aswell.

There are loads......

Azonic February 3rd, 2008 6:54 AM

Seed Bomb is a good alternative to Leech Seed. You'd be walled by Spiritomb otherwise :/

PsyDragon Trainer February 3rd, 2008 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3302038)
LOL Blissey's not cheap, its the best sp.wall in the game. Skarmory and Bronzong are awesome aswell =[

Yeah, Dusknoir, Gliscor, Hippowdon, Cresselia, Spiritomb, Forretress , Tangrowth,Weezing, Donphan, Suicune, Drapion, Slowbro etc.

Anti- metagame Registeel is meant to be beastly aswell.

There are loads......

I'm thinking of changing Umbreon with Gardevoir for the Wish Passing..
Quote:

Originally Posted by azonic (Post 3302329)
Seed Bomb is a good alternative to Leech Seed. You'd be walled by Spiritomb otherwise :/

Nah, Leech Seed saps the shizzle out of Spiritombs, I know it, I tried it :P.

Dark Azelf February 3rd, 2008 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azonic (Post 3302329)
Seed Bomb is a good alternative to Leech Seed. You'd be walled by Spiritomb otherwise :/

He can sub-seed it do death though lol

PsyDragon Trainer February 3rd, 2008 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 3302337)
He can sub-seed it do death though lol

Yeh, it works.. Lol. Go PP Max.. :P


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