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Xairmo February 5th, 2008 3:52 PM

RMT
 
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Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~DD
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Fang
~Earthquake

I keep Fire fang for Skarm and other anonymous steel types and Tangrowth

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Timid
Levitate
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Thunderbolt
~HP [ICE]

Yeah, dragons dont really like HP ice do they?

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Adamant
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch
~Cross Chop
~EQ

I prefer BB of CC...

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Bold
Levitate
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Speed

~ Pain Split
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Thunderbolt
~ HP [ICE]

Standard Weezing?

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Modest
Trace
252 HP, 48 Sp. Attack, 176 Sp. Defense, 32 Speed

~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Calm Mind
~Will-O-Wisp

Special Sweeper/Special Tank?

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Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~T-Wave
~Softboiled

Blissey =D


Yeah...ratage please?

Dark Azelf February 6th, 2008 8:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xairmo (Post 3308340)
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Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk /136 speed / 120 hp

~DD
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Blast
~Earthquake

Way Too much speed,

Fire Fang will do squat to skarm and tangrowth and fire blast will hit harder, so thats in here.


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Timid
Levitate
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Thunderbolt
~HP [ICE]

Nice

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Adamant
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch
~Cross Chop
~EQ

Really if you dont put on Cross Chos blissey gets 3hkod by BB, which could cost you the match if its your last poke.


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Bold
Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 60 SpA

~ Pain Split
~ Will-O-Wisp / Haze
~ Thunderbolt / HP [ICE]
~ FLAMETHROWER

The ev spread generates max lefties recovery.

100% Needs flmethrower or Heracross says hi.

Pick between Hidden power and T-Bolt, it depends on what you want to hit, Dragons or Gyarados

Haze can go >> Will-o-wisp if you wish.


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Timid
Trace
56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe

~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Calm Mind
~Will-O-Wisp

Go more speed and timid on Calm Mind set.

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Bold
148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT/ 4 SP.DEF
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~Ice Beam
~Softboiled

Ice Beam >> Counter, most physical stuff wont hit blissey directly they will stat up, and if you use counter, they will catch on and just DD/Swords Dance up untill they will 100% OHKO you.

Ice Beam stops Garchomp and dragons as using you as set up fodder.

Use a different ev spread aswell.



Changes and comment are in bold.

Anti February 6th, 2008 12:43 PM

Brick Break is a joke on Electivire. I'd rather use Flamethrower or even Fire Punch :(

I'm not feeling the mock boltbeam on Weezing really. It has much better things to be doing.

Faceless* February 6th, 2008 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xairmo (Post 3308340)
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Adamant = Hasty/Naive
Intimidate
152 Atk / 100 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~DD
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Fang Fire Blast
~Earthquake

I keep Fire fang for Skarm and other anonymous steel types and Tangrowth
No Fire Fang, take advantage of Salamence's high Sp. Attack

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Timid
Levitate
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Shadow Ball Hypnosis
~Focus Blast
~Thunderbolt
~HP [ICE]

Yeah, dragons dont really like HP ice do they?
My personal Gengar always runs Hypnosis, it NEEDS it.

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Adamant/Lonely
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Thunder Punch/Thunderbolt
~Ice Punch
~Brick Break Cross Chop/Low Kick
~EQ

I prefer BB of CC...
Brick Break is far too weak if it's going to cover with Earthquake

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Bold
Levitate
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Speed

~ Pain Split
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Thunderbolt
~ HP [ICE]

Standard Weezing?
I don't know about this puffy gasbag

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Modest
Trace
252 HP, 48 Sp. Attack, 176 Sp. Defense, 32 Speed

~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Calm Mind
~Will-O-Wisp

Special Sweeper/Special Tank?
:O

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Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~Counter/Thunder Wave/Ice Beam
~Softboiled

Blissey =D


Yeah...ratage please?

I'd watch out for SD Garchomp

Anti February 6th, 2008 1:20 PM

Name, I love Hypnosis on Grngar, but taking out its STAB move for it isn't worth it.

Dark Azelf February 6th, 2008 1:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3310465)
Name, I love Hypnosis on Grngar, but taking out its STAB move for it isn't worth it.

And without shadow ball Cressy, Dusknoir, Uxie, Azelf, mesprit, Celebi and a whole other host of threats etc. just rape you =[

sims796 February 6th, 2008 2:06 PM

Since it's Sashed, it might do good with Hypnosis over HP Ice.

I hate Gengar.

Azonic February 6th, 2008 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xairmo (Post 3308340)
[email protected] Orb
Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~DD
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Blast / Flamethrower
~Earthquake

I keep Fire fang for Skarm and other anonymous steel types and Tangrowth.
Fire Fang will do squat on Skarmory. Use Fire Blast.

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Timid
Levitate
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Thunderbolt
~HP [ICE]

Yeah, dragons dont really like HP ice do they?

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Adamant
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

~Thunderbolt / Thunderpunch
~Ice Punch
~Cross Chop
~EQ

I prefer BB of CC...
>: Brick Break ... it just sucks on on Vire D< 3HKOing Blissey isn't enough. D<

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Bold
Levitate
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Speed

~ Pain Split
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Thunderbolt
~ HP [ICE]

Standard Weezing?
I sucks wit weezer. Let someone else do it.

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Modest
Trace
252 HP, 48 Sp. Attack, 176 Sp. Defense, 32 Speed

~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Calm Mind
~Will-O-Wisp

Special Sweeper/Special Tank?

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Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpDefense
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~Counter / Thunder Wave
~Softboiled

Blissey =D
Ew. ._.;

Yeah...ratage please?

Garchomp weak ...

>: HAI MOPPY!!! :D

Faceless* February 6th, 2008 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3310465)
Name, I love Hypnosis on Grngar, but taking out its STAB move for it isn't worth it.

Hypnosis also gets rid of threats, it allows a bigger chance to deal MORE damage than it's STAB

Anti February 7th, 2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3311249)
Hypnosis also gets rid of threats, it allows a bigger chance to deal MORE damage than it's STAB

Or they switch out. HP Ice isn't really necessary on Gengar in all honesty. Shadow Ball is much better to use than a lousy mock boltbeam IMO.

Azonic February 7th, 2008 1:09 PM

I agree. If you're not running Choice Specs, give it Hypnosis > Hidden Power [ICE]. Unless you're so good that you can pull off Hypnosis with Choice Specs O_o

Faceless* February 7th, 2008 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azonic (Post 3312795)
I agree. If you're not running Choice Specs, give it Hypnosis > Hidden Power [ICE]. Unless you're so good that you can pull off Hypnosis with Choice Specs O_o

Well he ISN'T running Choice Specs and Walls don't switch out, they switch in

Exactly what do you mean lousy mock boltbeam? Surely enough, I'd nearly an Electivire, only attacking with Sp. Attacks. Sleep allows Gengar to deal more damage to walls, one Shadow Ball won't be necessary on walls. Heck, Focus Blast deals as much as a STAB Shadow Ball

As I mentioned above, this Gengar set is nearly like an Electivire set, and what does Electivire do to teams? To make up for the lack of attacking mixed, Gengar has Hypnosis

Anti February 7th, 2008 1:18 PM

Electivire actually kind of sucks IMO. Even with Mantine it is just no.

STAB Shadow Ball and Focus blast hit everything in the game, which is more powerful than the mock bolteam it runs, which is why I said it was lousy. Thunderboldt and Bulky Waters and viola!

HP Ice is kind of meh IMO unless you have some fear of SD Chomp or something.

Faceless* February 7th, 2008 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3312822)
Electivire actually kind of sucks IMO. Even with Mantine it is just no.

STAB Shadow Ball and Focus blast hit everything in the game, which is more powerful than the mock bolteam it runs, which is why I said it was lousy. Thunderboldt and Bulky Waters and viola!

HP Ice is kind of meh IMO unless you have some fear of SD Chomp or something.

This team does have a fear of SD Garchomp :\

Electivire obliterates teams, even better than Infernape with a Motor Drive boost

Xairmo February 7th, 2008 10:35 PM

I think i might switch weezing for skarmory, would that be good?


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