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flamehaze94 February 7th, 2008 2:18 PM

I feel liek bumping down a few threads.[RMT]
 
TSS
TSS
TSS
TSS!!!

omg, secret stall team




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Hariyama @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 204HP / 64Atk / 240Def
Impish nature(+Atk, -SpAtk)
  • - Force Palm
    - Ice Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Whirlwind

also the best lead, Gliscor gets hit with paralysis on the switch, than precedes to get raped by 4x Ice Punch, 2KHO iirc
Knock Off is just pwnsome
sex me big guy

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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Trait: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 204HP / 92Def / 172SpDef / 36Spd
Calm nature(+SpDef, -Atk)
  • - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Toxic Spikes

please my squid are very powerful

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252HP / 216Def / 40SpDef
Relaxed nature(+Def, -Spd)
  • - Grass Knot
    - Recover
    - Stealth Rock
    - U-Turn

SR hits some of Celery’s common switch ins i.e. Weavile and Salamence
Also, seeing as the most common spinners, Donphan and Starmie, cannot do anything with Celebi out on the field is a big plus
Other than that, it’s Celery

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Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252Atk / 180SpAtk / 76Spd
Adamant nature(+Atk, -SpAtk)
  • - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Pursuit
    - Stone Edge

What can be more annoying than to set up 2 layers of Tspikes only for it to get Blissey or Celebi Aromatherapy them away? That’s right, Tar’s back with a vengeance, Pursuits those two which in fact are the most common Aromatherapists and acts like a late game sweep because plain ol’ stall is oh so boring

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Evs: 252Def / 40SpAtk / 216SpDef
Calm nature(+SpDef, -Atk)
  • - Flamethrower
    - Softboiled
    - Toxic
    - Wish

Softboiled over Protect simply because of PP issues and the fact that you have to spend 2 turns to both Wish then Protect, just to get the same effect as Softboiled....yea
Just had to borrow Obi’s Bliss EVs, seeing how they work well here, Cleffa wants some of them too <3
Takes those special hits like a champ, moving on…

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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252HP / 144Def / 112SpDef
Calm nature(+SpDef, -Atk)
  • - HP [Fighting]
    - Rest
    - Shadow Ball
    - Sleep Talk

Ah, yes, faithful Mikaruge, PP stalls like a juggernaut, beats Elekkivire and Lucario
Ghost+fighting is unresisted, darlin'



yes, this is a stall team
no dragon resist is sorta bad though, perhaps Bronzong>Celebi?

Samson February 7th, 2008 10:33 PM

like the team, but toxic spikes really makes it easy on heracross. after which, heracross would just defile the rest of the team, switching in and out of the drama with no worries.

i'd get rid of hariyama or stomb. they just aren't doing anything extra for this team.

giving ttar that many sp atk evs seems a little ridiculous to me. you're either trying to ohko dragons or do a little extra damage to bulky grounds. if it's the latter, then it doesn't need that much sp atk to 2HKO hippow, etc.

Dark Azelf February 8th, 2008 4:01 AM

Hera really is going to cause problems, as is swords dance lucario.


Maybe

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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 ATT
Impish nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Ice Fang

>>> Hariyama ?

Helps your Hera, Dragon and Swords Dance Lucario problem to an extent.


Now you lack a PHaze move.

Perish Song >> SR on Celebi, if you want to PHaze.

Syaoran February 8th, 2008 5:36 AM

Celebi needs some speed EVs to outrun any type of TTar [usually settling at 244 speed or 245].

I never liked SpDef EVs on Blissey.. I can understand giving it calm over bold.. but I don't think it can afford losing 252 EVs in defence.

I wonder how you'll do against a Yanmega lead.. it can sleep Tentacruel while raping the rest of your team.

flamehaze94 February 8th, 2008 3:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 3314512)
like the team, but toxic spikes really makes it easy on heracross. after which, heracross would just defile the rest of the team, switching in and out of the drama with no worries.

Most Heracross are Choiced, so Celebi and Spiritomb can switch into a CC, Hariyama for Night Slash and Stone Edge, and Tentacruel or Hariyama for Megahorn, with TSpikes down and Sandstream down, it won't last very long. Of course SD LO Heracross is a different story, seeing as how every stall team made has that same weakness unless you're packing Gliscor.

i'd get rid of hariyama or stomb. they just aren't doing anything extra for this team.

Hariyama (P)hazes, provides paralysis support, Knocks Off idems, and counters both Weavile and Tyranitar. Spiritomb provides really good resistances, it's a status absorber, and it blocks Spins.

giving ttar that many sp atk evs seems a little ridiculous to me. you're either trying to ohko dragons or do a little extra damage to bulky grounds. if it's the latter, then it doesn't need that much sp atk to 2HKO hippow, etc.

160SpAtk is all it needs to 0HKO most Garchomp and 2HKO the standard Hippowdon, but since I had an extra 28EVs left, I managed to just squeeze it in, so it hurts more.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf
Maybe

[email protected]
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 ATT
Impish nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Ice Fang

>>> Hariyama ?

Helps your Hera, Dragon and Swords Dance Lucario problem to an extent.

Perhaps, though, I'll probably squeeze Knock Off somewhere.


Now you lack a PHaze move.

Perish Song >> SR on Celebi, if you want to PHaze.

I'll do that, if I switch Hariyama for Celebi.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran
Celebi needs some speed EVs to outrun any type of TTar [usually settling at 244 speed or 245].

I like the negative nature for U-Turn scouting, so Pursuit does less damage if I U-Turn after he Pursuits me.

I never liked SpDef EVs on Blissey.. I can understand giving it calm over bold.. but I don't think it can afford losing 252 EVs in defence.

...
Bliss already has 252Def EVs though.


I wonder how you'll do against a Yanmega lead.. it can sleep Tentacruel while raping the rest of your team.

Blissey.


I'll probably have to do more testing, on Gliscor being a replacement for Hariyama.

Syaoran February 8th, 2008 4:56 PM

Ohh Blissey doesn't have HP EVs.. that's a whole different story.


Celebi doesn't like getting crunch'd if TTar packs that instead of Pursuit.

Also lol, I just noticed this is exactly like Obi's team, with few changes.

flamehaze94 February 9th, 2008 7:04 AM

That's a chance I'll have to take I guess.





Looks Obi's stall team? Are you serious? Is that the first impression people get these days? The only thing I borrowed is his Bliss EVs. Obi's not even that good irl. I had this team before Obi even posted his. Everything else was on mag's stall team, with the exception of Mikaruge and Hariyama and Tyranitar. So don't go say I stole anybody's stall team, as 90% of all stall teams look similar.

Hahahaohwow February 9th, 2008 1:38 PM

someone's a little angry.

flamehaze94 February 9th, 2008 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hahahaohwow (Post 3318766)
someone's a little angry.

someone's a little dull

anyways, I atually took a lot of time with this team, tested it throught Shoddy with reasonable success, posted it for people to look and get help out of them, only to get told that you "stole" a team, or "3/6 of this looks like Obi's, COOOOPPPPPPIIIIIIEEEEERRRR!!!!!"


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