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yeah shoddy and stuff rmt
Garchomp (♂) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil EVs: 252 Atk/224 Spd/32 SDef Adamant nature (+Atk, -Def) - Outrage - Fire Blast - Earthquake - Stone Edge my favorite lead this thing is a monster. --- Gyarados (♂) @ Leftovers Ability: Intimidate EVs: 212 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Earthquake - Taunt - Waterfall standard i beleive. easy to run i love taunting things like bliss. --- Heatran (♂) @ Choice Specs Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 52 HP/224 Spd/252 SAtk Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Dragon Pulse - Fire Blast - Explosion - Earth Power my heavy hitter destroys alot of junk. --- Forretress (♂) @ Leftovers Ability: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/196 Def Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd) - Earthquake - Gyro Ball - Spikes - Rapid Spin standard again should i keep zap cannon? --- Blissey @ Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 148 HP/252 DEF/104 sp.att/4 sp.def Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Ice Beam - Aromatherapy / Thunderwave - Softboiled - Seismic Toss --- Swampert @ leftovers Relaxed Nature EVs: 240 HP/212 DEF/56 SP.ATT Ability: Torrent - Ice Beam / Hidden power Electric - Hydro pump - Earthquake - Roar |
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this team is terribly weak defensively. No way to beat almost all common threats, which is a bad thing. |
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... ? Milotic needs Maxed Defense. Meep, Zap Cannon @[email protected] Nuuu!!! Zap Cannon will not hit much to begin with, and if it does, it barely does any damage. Zap Cannon on Foretress is really stretching it. |
yeah edited and stuff. i replaced milotic and raikou. if i could find a nice special walling phazer maybe riakou could be an option. anyone know what i could put in the spots?
would blissey help this team? if blissey then maybe mixpert with roar ro go with it? |
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Yes [email protected] 148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 sp.att / 4 sp.def Bold Nature Trait : Natural Cure - Ice Beam - Aromatherapy / Thunderwave - Softboiled - Seismic Toss [email protected] 240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT Relaxed Nature - Ice Beam / Hidden power Electric - Hydro pump - Earthquake - Roar You need a gyarados counter though so Hidden power Electric on swampy |
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I meant Fire Fang. Zap Cannon actually will counter Gyarados, but has little usage outside of that so yeah. |
thanks for the set azelf. oh and anti-pop may i share a quote from you the first time i used forry? you said this after i said zap cannon was lol becuase of its low accuracy.
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Zap Cannon isn't "lol" by any means. It just isn't that great. ^BTW opinions change over time. |
I hope this thread isn't dead >.<
well ill the sets any more suggestions? |
dont have time to stop and rate, but just gotta say Scarfchomp lead will be eaten by hippowdon and Ice Sharding Donphan
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i can use a new tactic called switching in.:P
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Also don't act like he's totally stupid, he was actually right :/ |
how about i lead with the old porygon z?
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Your team doesn't even have a Porygon-Z :/
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i meant replace my scarfchomp.
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What I mean is that you have competent leads on your team already like Swampert and Gyarados.
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so should i lead with gyrados instead to beat hippo?
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Swampert I think will fit in better because of his ability to stop bulkyness, and stone edge takes care of Gyara leads as well it can also take care of Hippo and deal good damange to skarm.
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my swampert doesnt have stone edge but i think ill go for HP [electric].
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Give me one use HP Electric has besides beating Gyarados. It does nothihng to other bulky waters or anything else.
As in, don't use HP electric on Swampert. You'd only be robbing it of a moveslot. I'm not a huge fan of Stone Edge on Swampert either, or even Rock slide, but if you really hate Gyarados I suppose it's plausible considering it isn't totally useless like HP electric. Honestly your sweepers don't even work that great together so maybe find a replacement for one of them (cough Garchomp) for something that will beat Gyarados, whether or not it's a sweeper. |
Love how you corrected Fire Fire on Evilcheese's Garchomp moveset Anti XD
As for the BoltBeam weakness, I dare you to give Forretress Light Screen =PPPP Oh, I hate to say this but.. it's best to replace Milotic with Blissey (Your Gyarados) |
i did replace milotic.
yeah i was thinking garchomp doesnt go that well. ill probably need a mixed sweeper (maybe vire) or a nice tank. |
People like mixed sweepers too much ._.
As for "Fire Fire," I seem to make that mistake every time I mean to say Fire Fang. Must be my short attention spn at work or something. Speaking of fire, Fire BLAST > Flamethrower on Heatran please. I honestly don't want to hear about accuracy when people use Megahorn on Heracross. Now I hate fire blast on those pure physical attackers that just slip it in to kill skarm, who usually isn't much of a threat anyways, but on Heatran it is quite honestly a whole lot better. |
ok ill go fire blast. and for the tank maybe a cmer? or tyraniboah er whatever its called (tyranitar with ice beam).
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